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Theory: Federal Reserve Banks blackmailing US Government.

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posted on Dec, 17 2010 @ 01:41 PM
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ok, I have a theory as to why our government and Legislative bodies keeps letting the Federal Reserve Banks get away with pretty much anything they want.

So Let's say we drop the Federal Reserve bank, or charge the "big banks" that make up the federal reserve with fraud such as the housing industry frauds.

1. They are holding up the stock market which is helping to keep business' in the United States afloat. They can and will crash our stock market.

2. They are literally printing money and buying bonds that pay for things our government is using. They could just cash in those bonds and literally buy our country. (though, in a way they have already done that)

3. They could fund a war against the United States, in an effort to conquer a broke nation.

4. We would no longer have a way to pay for our military, and that alone would cause an uprising in the United States.

5. They could call in the debts of all Americans.

6. They know the corruption that goes on in our government and they would make sure everyone knew about it, both Americans and Foreign Nations.

If I sat and thought about it, I could come up with probably 100 more ways they could blackmail us.

Yes we can fight, but remember most of the world blames all Americans for the problems our government causes, so if our governments corrupt acts got out, countries and people all over the world would want vengeance, and it would be our heads on a platter, not just our government's.

I could be completely wrong here, but as I said it's only a theory.




posted on Dec, 17 2010 @ 03:09 PM
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There was a big tado here earlier in the week because a Repubican Senator from Alabama slipped up and told the truth about this. He said something to the effect of "We are here to serve the Fed." The Fed controls our economy and so the Fed controls us without Congressional oversight.



posted on Dec, 17 2010 @ 03:15 PM
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Probably true but it's time to call their bluff..
Crash the economy and put all the criminal bankers in jail..
Yes. The world would suffer in the short term but it WOULD survive and come out of the mess a much better place..
As for all the debt to the bankers..Who pays back criminals??
Screw the Fed, Central Banks and the IMF..They're all crooks..



posted on Dec, 17 2010 @ 03:22 PM
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Originally posted by backinblack
Probably true but it's time to call their bluff..
Crash the economy and put all the criminal bankers in jail..
Yes. The world would suffer in the short term but it WOULD survive and come out of the mess a much better place..
As for all the debt to the bankers..Who pays back criminals??
Screw the Fed, Central Banks and the IMF..They're all crooks..

wow, astounding !!!
we agree on something else too

star 4 u

thats right, criminals dont get paid back anything
from illegal activities. That would also make our foreign
debt an illegal transaction as well.

time for some house cleaning in the US
and let's start on Wall Street.

let them crash the economy,
most of us are already living
in a depressive state already.
I know I am.



posted on Dec, 17 2010 @ 03:25 PM
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I actually want the stock market to crash.

Maybe it would help wake lazy Walmart America up.



posted on Dec, 17 2010 @ 03:26 PM
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I mostly agree with your sentiments (and # 4 is an interesting idea), but people's indignation at the Fed is entirely orchestrated and planned out also, in the same manner you describe the outing of corruption of the govt.

What Wikileaks is to the govt and military etc, Ron Paul is to the current banking paradigm. It's all controlled by the same people in order to usher in the desired form of change. The old world order given a new coat of paint in 2012.

So what's the end game here? The Fed WILL be taken down, it's what the NWO wants.

They want an all digital, universal currency. To do this, they will : collapse the dollar while simultaneously ushering people into buying gold and gold ETFs. When the system is crashed at the end of 2012, a new all digital/ universal currency will be offered to the wounded governments. People will exchange their gold and gold ETF's for this new money. You can't eat your gold so people will exchange their gold for items sold by the global corporation that is left standing.

If you'd like to see the predictive programming for this, I suggest reading this Vigilant Citizen essay (one of his best) where he analyzes, of all things, a GI JOE cartoon and the villians describe this exact economic scenario.
vigilantcitizen.com...
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posted on Dec, 17 2010 @ 03:32 PM
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Wonders never cease huh..


Anyone with half a brain knows the derivatives bubble MUST crash..
It's basically a pyramid scheme and the , by definition, MUST fail..
So, is may aswell happen now..Get it over with and start printing our own money..

Personally I'm against even the stock market that allows all the add ons such as betting on stocks going up or down..
The stock market should just trade stocks and not even allow futures trading..
That just drives up the prices of fuel etc..

The world's biggest economic problem, IMO, is there is an ever increasing number of people who wish to make money by not producing anything...
It's logical to assume for every dollar they make, someone looses a dollar..
That's not productive, it's just wealth transfer...



posted on Dec, 17 2010 @ 03:33 PM
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Oh I agree that they want to crash the Dollar and Euro so they can usher in a new world currency.

That being said the issues are not just with the Federal Reserve, but also with the Banks that run the Federal Reserve. Those are the people controlling things, and blackmailing the Governments through out the world.

The real crimes are committed by the banks hiding behind the federal reserve.
edit on 17-12-2010 by thewholepicture because: added info.



posted on Dec, 17 2010 @ 03:42 PM
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Actually it is very simple.

If you mess with the Fed you end up dead!



Just look at Congressman McFadden.


...Mr. Chairman, all the gold in the possession of the Federal Reserve Board and the Federal Reserve banks belongs to the people of the United States. During the last 20 years, under the vicious Federal Reserve Act, they have taken it from the people in exchange for Federal Reserve currency and it has not cost them one penny. Now they come forward to make a pretended transfer of the people's gold coin and bullion to the United States Treasury. Not one penny of the gold they pretend to transfer to the United States Treasury is owned by them; every dollar of it belongs to the individual citizens of the United States. The United States Treasury is to buy it on credit and to pay for it with new gold certificates. How does this transfer title to the United States Treasury? Can the Congress lend itself to such a transaction? Last May I stated that, in my opinion, the people's gold, unjustly impounded in the Federal Reserve banks, should be placed in the people's Treasury, but I did not state that it should be placed there as the property of the Federal Reserve Board and the Federal Reserve banks, to be withdrawn by them with gold certificates and to made exportable from the United States Treasury to the Bank for International Settlements in Europe. What this bill proposes to do in connection with the President's message suggesting that this United States gold may be sent to Europe to be kept in the Bank for International Settlements with the loot of the central banks of other countries is one of the greatest fiscal frauds in history. It is one of the biggest swindles of all time....
www.wakeupfromyourslumber.com...


For this and other speeches he lost his seat, was shot at twice and then died of poison.

More recently in 1964 Justice Martin Mahoney


...rejected the bank's claim for foreclosure, and the defendant [Daly] kept his house. To Daly, the implications were enormous. If bankers were indeed extending credit without consideration – without backing their loans with money they actually had in their vaults and were entitled to lend – a decision declaring their loans void could topple the power base of the world....

Needless to say, however, the decision failed to change prevailing practice, although it was never overruled. It was heard in a Justice of the Peace Court, an autonomous court system dating back to those frontier days when defendants had trouble traveling to big cities to respond to summonses. In that system (which has now been phased out), judges and courts were pretty much on their own. Justice Mahoney, who was not dependent on campaign financing or hamstrung by precedent, went so far as to threaten to prosecute and expose the bank. He died less than six months after the trial, in a mysterious accident that appeared to involve poisoning....
www.webofdebt.com...


Those are only two of the people who have challenged the Fed and died "mysteriously"



posted on Dec, 17 2010 @ 03:47 PM
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I definitely agree.

See, the beauty of using Ron Paul and his "end the fed" mantra to usher in the NWO digital universal currency is this:

The push for the return of the "constitution" is really just a push to repeal taxation. With this digital currency, the NWO can have hidden taxation via localized inflation. They get to say, "no more taxes", but really they've just hidden them.

Also, the people most likely to rebel against the NWO will be invested in this new paradigm, and therefore will not rebel. Conservatives will be the ones who invested in gold, and they will be the ones lining up to exchange it for the new currency! Viva NWO!



posted on Dec, 17 2010 @ 04:00 PM
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Paul Warburg was one of the earliest advocates for a Central Bank in the United States. He was born in Germany to a Jewish banking family and moved to the United States. Here he became a successful banker whilst advocating a Central bank for the US. When Wilson created the Federal Reserve he was one of the members of the first Federal Reserve Board until 1919. Then in 1921 he was director of the Council on Foreign Relations.

How is this relevant? Well the Council on Foreign Relations has always been a staunch advocate for Interventionist foreign policy. So he put pressure on Wilson to create the Fed, then he became a board member, then the director of an Interventionist organization. What this means is that the same person who pushed for the Fed also pushed for military interventionism. Basically the Federal Reserve has always been blackmailing and manipulating our government ever since the meeting on Jekyll Island of the top bankers to form the Fed.

The meeting at Jekyll Island occurred in November 1910, just 100 years and 1 month ago, consisting of Sen. Nelson W. Aldrich, Assistant Secretary of the Treasury Department A. Piatt Andrew, and 5 other men who’s wealth accounted for ¼ of the entire world’s entire wealth. The meeting was of utmost secrecy organized by the Senator.


Picture a party of the nation's greatest bankers stealing out of New York on a private railroad car under cover of darkness, stealthily riding hundred of miles South, embarking on a mysterious launch, sneaking onto an island deserted by all but a few servants, living there a full week under such rigid secrecy that the names of not one of them was once mentioned, lest the servants learn the identity and disclose to the world this strangest, most secret expedition in the history of American finance. I am not romancing; I am giving to the world, for the first time, the real story of how the famous Aldrich currency report, the foundation of our new currency system, was written... The utmost secrecy was enjoined upon all. The public must not glean a hint of what was to be done. Senator Aldrich notified each one to go quietly into a private car of which the railroad had received orders to draw up on an unfrequented platform. Off the party set. New York's ubiquitous reporters had been foiled... Nelson (Aldrich) had confided to Henry, Frank, Paul and Piatt that he was to keep them locked up at Jekyll Island, out of the rest of the world, until they had evolved and compiled a scientific currency system for the United States, the real birth of the present Federal Reserve System, the plan done on Jekyll Island in the conference with Paul, Frank and Henry... Warburg is the link that binds the Aldrich system and the present system together. He more than any one man has made the system possible as a working reality.


en.wikipedia.org...

Aldrich was an honorary Freemason and was quite active as the Treasurer of the Grand Lodge of Rhode Island. His daughter Abby Aldrich married John D. Rockefeller, Jr. Their son, Nelson’s grandson, was Nelson Aldrich Rockefeller who served as Vice President of the United States under Gerald Ford.

Nelson Aldrich was the architect of the Federal Reserve of the United States.

Paul Warburg’s son James Paul Warburg in 1950 said the following:


"We shall have World Government, whether or not we like it.
The only question is whether World Government will be achieved
by conquest or consent."


quotes.liberty-tree.ca...

Why is this important? Because his father wanted a Central Bank and he got it, he then wanted a military interventionist foreign policy and he got it. I do not know if his son was advocating for world government or telling that it will occur, either way we should pay close attention to what the people of that family have to say.

The Fed was designed through blackmail and it will always be used for blackmail.
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posted on Dec, 17 2010 @ 04:44 PM
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Paul Warburg was one of the earliest advocates for a Central Bank in the United States. He was born in Germany to a Jewish banking family and moved to the United States. Here he became a successful banker whilst advocating a Central bank for the US. When Wilson created the Federal Reserve he was one of the members of the first Federal Reserve Board until 1919. Then in 1921 he was director of the Council on Foreign Relations.


Jews, Jews, Jews, is there anything that jews don't own in US?

Federal Reserve a non-government entity is also owned and run by Jews.Ben Bernanke is a Jew.

The Federal Reserve is owned by Rothschild Banks, Lazard Brothers, Israel Moses Seif Banks, Kuhn Loeb Bank, Morgan are all run by Jews. The media/newspaper moguls are mostly Jews, the think tanks influencing government policies especially in US are mostly run by Jews. It just seems capitalism was designed to serve them.

The meltdown was all planned by bankers because it didn't affect them. While the masses have to suffer huge cuts and increased taxes in order to fill the black hole created by the bankers. The bankers were bailed out by the government using the tax payers money.

Federal Reserve AKA Jews financially raped US by:



The media/newspaper moguls are mostly Jews, the think tanks influencing government policies especially in US are mostly run by Jews.

Carl Marx (communism) Jew, Lenon Trotsky Jew, Hitler Jew,Protocols of Zion (world domination plan) coming true again Jew, Zionist manifesto Jew.

Have i missed anything?

edit on 17-12-2010 by Doujutsu because: Grammar error



posted on Dec, 17 2010 @ 05:07 PM
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your outline holds water IF the USA allows the Federal Reserve to still have authority...

it would only take a swipe of the pen , AKA executive order, to Nationalize
the current Primary Dealer Banks (and do a major overhaul of the top elites therein)

The FED is bankrupt, it has more than $12 Trillion of negative holding in its' balance sheets...

~or better still~ cut loose the FED and the likes of Goldman Sachs, JPMorgan, Citi, BoA,
and the remainder of formerly 'Investment Banks' now fraudulently titled Bank Holding Companies...
and recind the FederalReserveNote from having any Sovereign Standing at all.. !
it can become the FED & crony Banks form of Casino Chips... to play rich-man amongst themselves.


do like JFK was starting to do back at the beginning of the 1960s...
create a new 'Silver Certificate' form of currency for the Main-Street economy of America
and leave the Fed Reserve Note, along with the 'USA' identity go the way of an eradicated disease.


edit on 17-12-2010 by St Udio because: having trouble with 'casino'



posted on Dec, 17 2010 @ 05:21 PM
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do like JFK was starting to do back at the beginning of the 1960s... create a new 'Silver Certificate' form of currency for the Main-Street economy of America and leave the Fed Reserve Note, along with the 'USA' identity go the way of an eradicated disease.


For a real rundown on the history of money, download the pdf of the History of Money by Elgin Groseclose at the Mises Institute. The book is sadly out of print, but still available via pdf: mises.org...



As the pro-socialist and millionaire economics textbook author Robert Heilbroner finally admitted in The New Yorker in 1990, "Mises was right."


"The Return to Sound Money,"
The first step must be a radical and unconditional abandonment of any further inflation. The total amount of dollar bills, whatever their name or legal characteristic may be, must not be increased by further issuance. No bank must be permitted to expand the total amount of its deposits subject to check or the balance of such deposits of any individual customer, be he a private citizen or the U.S. Treasury, otherwise than by receiving cash deposits in legal-tender banknotes from the public or by receiving a check payable by another domestic bank subject to the same limitations. This means a rigid 100 percent reserve for all future deposits; that is, all deposits not already in existence on the first day of the reform (p. 448).

In Human Action, Mises said that the government's task is to enforce contracts. Among these contracts are contracts for redeeming money-certificates for money metals on demand. He defined a money-certificate a receipt for a money metal that has 100% of the promised metal in reserve. He said that banks should not be favored by the government. They should not be allowed the right to break contracts, which is what a refusal to redeem money-certificates on demand is. "What is needed to prevent any further credit expansion is to place the banking business under the general rules of commercial and civil laws compelling every individual to fulfill all obligations in full compliance with the terms of the contract"
www.lewrockwell.com...


Fractional Reserve banking and the Fed creating money out of nothing has always been FRAUD and should never been made a US government policy. (It was never a real law because it is Unconstitutional)



posted on Dec, 17 2010 @ 08:29 PM
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Originally posted by thewholepicture
I actually want the stock market to crash.

Maybe it would help wake lazy Walmart America up.


Most assuredly not. People will only wake up when there is no food on the shelves of Maomart.
I read a US armed forces study (I wish I had saved it to cite). It stated that within 72 hours of a food disruption, people would steal to eat, within a week, people would kill others for food, and within 3 weeks, people would eat each other.

No crash, banker theft, oligarchy will set the American people in motion. Until people are starving, this depressive zombie state will reign, IMHO.
edit on 17/12/2010 by quietone77 because: punctuation



posted on Dec, 17 2010 @ 09:07 PM
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Originally posted by boondock-saint

Originally posted by backinblack
Probably true but it's time to call their bluff..
Crash the economy and put all the criminal bankers in jail..
Yes. The world would suffer in the short term but it WOULD survive and come out of the mess a much better place..
As for all the debt to the bankers..Who pays back criminals??
Screw the Fed, Central Banks and the IMF..They're all crooks..

wow, astounding !!!
we agree on something else too

star 4 u

thats right, criminals dont get paid back anything
from illegal activities. That would also make our foreign
debt an illegal transaction as well.

time for some house cleaning in the US
and let's start on Wall Street.

let them crash the economy,
most of us are already living
in a depressive state already.
I know I am.

edit on 17-12-2010 by Spiritwalker888 because: Computer messed up.
here is something that people are not thinking about, since the money that the federal reserve is making is supposedly devaluing the US Dollar well I say that money that can be made out of thin air has no Intrinsic value what so ever to begin with so if the Federal Reserve dollar has no Intrinsic value then neither does the debt that is caused from it.......
edit on 17-12-2010 by Spiritwalker888 because: trying to figure this sight out



posted on Dec, 18 2010 @ 12:17 AM
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Originally posted by Spiritwalker888

Originally posted by boondock-saint

Originally posted by backinblack
Probably true but it's time to call their bluff..
Crash the economy and put all the criminal bankers in jail..
Yes. The world would suffer in the short term but it WOULD survive and come out of the mess a much better place..
As for all the debt to the bankers..Who pays back criminals??
Screw the Fed, Central Banks and the IMF..They're all crooks..

wow, astounding !!!
we agree on something else too

star 4 u

thats right, criminals dont get paid back anything
from illegal activities. That would also make our foreign
debt an illegal transaction as well.

time for some house cleaning in the US
and let's start on Wall Street.

let them crash the economy,
most of us are already living
in a depressive state already.
I know I am.

edit on 17-12-2010 by Spiritwalker888 because: Computer messed up.
here is something that people are not thinking about, since the money that the federal reserve is making is supposedly devaluing the US Dollar well I say that money that can be made out of thin air has no Intrinsic value what so ever to begin with so if the Federal Reserve dollar has no Intrinsic value then neither does the debt that is caused from it.......
edit on 17-12-2010 by Spiritwalker888 because: trying to figure this sight out


Right you are!

So here is my theory, the banks/people behind the FED are using all that money they are printing/making and investing it in physical Gold and silver, not to mention they alone have access to our gold reserves.

Once the fed/dollar/euro crashes, countries all over the world will go to the gold/silver standard. These banks will own more than any country ever could, so when a country needs a loan, they will be going to these banks once again.

Once the countries can no longer pay there debt to these banks, the banks will cash in on the collateral, which would be the countries land, resources, military, and citizens.

Folks, these bankers are not stupid. It's all planned out.

The only way I see we can beat them is not use gold/silver as a standard for currency, I personally think it's too late for that. I might be wrong, it's the best theory i have.

Personally I think the currency should be trade notes based on population.
edit on 18-12-2010 by thewholepicture because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 22 2010 @ 06:58 PM
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The first misconception that most people have is that the Federal Reserve Bank is a branch of the US government. IT IS NOT. THE FEDERAL RESERVE BANK IS A PRIVATE COMPANY. Most people believe it is as American as the Constitution. THE FACT IS THE CONSTITUTION FORBIDS IT'S EXISTENCE. Article 1, Section 8 of the Constitution states that Congress shall have the power to create money and regulate the value thereof, NOT A BUNCH OF INTERNATIONAL BANKERS! Today the FED controls and profits by printing WORTHLESS PAPER, called money, through the Treasury, regulating its value, AND THE BIGGEST OUTRAGE OF ALL, COLLECTING INTEREST ON IT! (THE SO-CALLED NATIONAL DEBT). The FED began with approximately 300 people or banks that became owners, stockholders purchasing stock at $100 per share - the stock is not publicly traded) in the Federal Reserve Banking System. They make up an international banking cartel of wealth beyond comparison. The FED banking system collects billions of dollars in interest annually and distributes the profits to its shareholders. The Congress illegally gave the FED the right to print money through the Treasury at no interest to the FED.

The FED creates money from nothing, and loans it back to us through banks, and charges interest on our currency. The FED also buys Government debt with money printed on a printing press and charges U.S. taxpayers interest. Many Congressmen and Presidents say this is fraud. Who actually owns the Federal Reserve Central Banks? The ownership of the 12 Central banks, a very well kept secret, has been revealed: 1. Rothschild Bank of London 2. Warburg Bank of Hamburg 3. Rothschild Bank of Berlin 4. Lehman Brothers of New York 5. Lazard Brothers of Paris 6. Kuhn Loeb Bank of New York 7. Israel Moses Seif Banks of Italy 8. Goldman, Sachs of New York 9. Warburg Bank of Amsterdam 10. Chase Manhattan Bank of New York.

These bankers are connected to London Banking Houses which ultimately control the FED. When England lost the Revolutionary War with America where our forefathers were fighting their own government, they planned to control us by controlling our banking system, the printing of our money, and our debt. The individuals listed below owned banks which in turn owned shares in the FED. The banks listed below have significant control over the New York FED District, which controls the other 11 FED Districts. These banks also are partly foreign owned and control the New York FED District Bank: First National Bank of New York, James Stillman National City Bank, New York, Mary W. Harnman, National Bank of Commerce, New York, A.D. Jiullard Hanover, National Bank, New York, Jacob Schiff, Chase National Bank, New York, Thomas F. Ryan, Paul Warburg, William Rockefeller, Levi P. Morton, M.T. Pyne, George F. Baker, Percy Pyne, Mrs. G.F. St. George, J.W. Sterling, Katherine St. George, H.P. Davidson, J.P. Morgan (Equitable Life/Mutual Life), Edith Brevour, T. Baker.

www.jesus-is-savior.com...



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