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Originally posted by AnteBellum
The norm in our country has been to give tax benefits to those who decide to have large families. What if we turned this around and started to penalize those who decide to have more then one child?
Originally posted by AnteBellum
I started this thread to get some opinions mainly due to the state of our world right now. There is a program on MTV called Teen Pregnancy or something like that. They started the show to promote abstinence in kids by showing them how hard it is to raise a child. I read recently that hordes of teenagers are having kids now just to get on the show!
This is similar to how other countries have controlled the population in the past. I am not saying it is wrong or right at this time but maybe there is something parallel to this that might work here in the US, not only for population control but also for 'cutting costs' for those who indiscriminately choose to pump out lots of kids when they are not financially able to care for them all.
Originally posted by SaturnFX
abstinence teaching doesn't work...its stupid, and I am not sure why this is still a consideration.
You cannot roll back 4 billion years of evolution...you simply cant...its like trying to teach people not to enjoy being happy.
Originally posted by SevenBeans
It worked for me.
Originally posted by mnemeth1
reply to post by AnteBellum
No need to tax people.
All we need to do is stop paying them to have kids.
Originally posted by SaturnFX
Congratulations on being the exception to the statistics.
There is a mountain of data showing abstinance only education is a complete fail.
I can source a bunch of websites from neutral research that proves this, or you can google it...
Originally posted by SaturnFX
The only thing that is going to work is introduction of birth control methods. the continuing growth of teen pregnancy and sex...in the face of abstinance only education...demonstrates this.
Originally posted by buddhasystem
Originally posted by mnemeth1
reply to post by AnteBellum
No need to tax people.
All we need to do is stop paying them to have kids.
I would agree with that. However, if they still have kids, these kids are doomed to starvation and death, according to you, right?
Originally posted by thewholepicture
The problem with this Idea, is that it would go against (in my opinion) a basic Human Right.
Originally posted by Darkrunner
Originally posted by thewholepicture
The problem with this Idea, is that it would go against (in my opinion) a basic Human Right.
I can agree with this, but is that human right subject to change?
How about when the human population reaches 10 billion? 50 billion? 75 billion? Will it still be a human right then?
There are countless articles on the web of skyrocketing food prices, and the prediction is as the population grows it is going to get worse. There are only so many wheat fields and fresh water supplies to go around....
Originally posted by SevenBeans
Originally posted by SaturnFX
abstinence teaching doesn't work...its stupid, and I am not sure why this is still a consideration.
You cannot roll back 4 billion years of evolution...you simply cant...its like trying to teach people not to enjoy being happy.
It worked for me. I didn't have sex until I got married. If you want a miserable life just get a girl that you don't love pregnant before either of you are ready to be parents. It's a very simple message, your life will probably suck if you do this. I think delivery of the message is the problem, it shouldn't be so polite.
"If you do this you're an idiot."
edit on 17-12-2010 by SevenBeans because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by AnteBellum
reply to post by thewholepicture
I agree it goes against my opinion of our basic human right also but this is why I indicated for families that have more then one child. This figure can be increased to meet certain criteria as necessary.
I have a problem with the each child will generate taxes as a worker for right now unemployment is rampant and social securities future is unstable. Do we really need more people in our work force or should we concentrate our efforts to fewer, giving them more opportunities for success and achievement?