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Originally posted by awake_and_aware
Atheism is a lack of a belief but it certainly isn't a schism and we don't discriminate, we challenge, ask questions, ask for reason.
Then why you discriminate and make schism between theism and atheism?
When religious people preach God, they describe "him" as a "being", as a supernatural divine designer. They BELIEVE that this "GOD" intervenes in human affairs and created the universe.
This is a dangerous claim to make without evidence, here's why i think this....
An Agnostic Anti-Theist?!
Although i am an Atheist, i cannot claim to KNOW there is no "GOD".
Similarly, i cannot claim to KNOW there is a diamond buried in my back yard without investigating, without evidence.
In this sense; i am Agnostic in regards to "God" or in regards to the source/causation (if any) of the universe.
Any human who claims to know should be treated with great suspicion.
WHY is ancient dogma of man treated with respect rather than suspicion?
Why be an Anti-Theist?
I do not respect any human who claims to know without evidence. This is why i am against Theism.
I want to make people aware that children are being taught to "believe" without evidence. That critical evidence should not suffice for them to affirm a belief. Sometimes their FAITH even over-rules evidence put forward (Evolution is one example).
To be curious, to be inquizitive, to ask questions is to be human, this our pattern seeking nature, seeking reason, trying to be rational. This is why we have technology, medicine, astronomy; from testing and asking questions.
Faith and Ignorance
This is faith. And it's the exact type of unfalsifiable nonsense as Tarot Card Reading, Astrology, Psychics.
These charlatons hide behind the unfalsifiable nature of their claims and expect us to believe them on the basis of faith. This is what is ruining our intelligence and civilisation. They are actively teaching ignorance. And many are being fooled beacuse of this, and have become rather arrogant.
Again, why does this ignorance demand our respect? Should you be considered a sinner just because you challenge this ignorance?
What do you think?
Atheists, Agnostics, Deists, Theists, Pantheists - I really would appreciate your thoughts and comments and to have a polite and civil discourse here.
Thanks for reading.
Awake and Aware
I think we should stop spreading hatred, and face the fact that we are all humans
Originally posted by awake_and_aware
reply to post by Seed76
Why do many of these charlatons refuse to be tested in a controlled environment? Religion is in the same ball park?
edit on 17/12/10 by awake_and_aware because: (no reason given)
"Blessed are they who do not see, but believe."
They have been subjected to every test on earth and there is no "scientific" explanation for their reports or the state of ecstasy they are in while the visitations last.
Hatred is caused by religion.
If a Christian "BELIEVES" that you will go to hell if you are a homosexual, they BELIEVE that the homosexual is a "SINNER" and they think homosexuals are less "worthy" than them. This is prejuduce.
Because these beliefs are inferred from God, many contrasting religions may never come to an agreement, and will always cause separation.
It causes me pain, that know one notices the tension between religions of different beliefs.
Look to Northern Ireland, look to Palestine and Israel, look at the religiously motived Crusades, look at the acts of martyrdom or jihad because they TRUELY BELIEVE THEY ARE GETTING A REWARD. FOR KILLING PEOPLE.
And people like you say that i am wrong to hate religion. I will defend my opinion, thanks. I'm allowed to hate who i want. I'm allowed to hate Nazis, i'm allowed to hate Homophobes, i'm allowed to hate Sexists, i'm allowed to hate racists, because religion is as illogical as any of the above beliefs i will oppose it.
Thankyou. again im happy to ask further questions as honest as i can.
We are all going to be judged according our deeds, and not according our labels.
Among primitives, for instance, the imago, the psychic reverberation of the sense-perception, is so strong and so sensuously coloured that when it is reproduced as a spontaneous memory-image it sometimes even has the quality of an hallucination. Thus when the memory-image of his dead mother suddenly reappears to a primitive, it is as if it were her ghost that he sees and hears.
but you believe there is no God/Deity. Isn´t that a dangerous claim to make, since you have no proof/evidence either, but you simply believe??
Look it's not a case of labels! Understand my point, it's a case of prejuduce because of your belief system that is causing conflict between peoples of this earth.
I reccommend, like i have reccomended before to watch this video and at least understand my frustration.
I will continue to answer your questions honestly and i will re-quote myself if needs be.