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Hatred for Muslims/Islam on ATS - where does it come from?

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posted on Dec, 18 2010 @ 12:38 AM
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like i said provide proof ? of your convictions , my pretend commando suit eh lol it felt very real to me




posted on Dec, 18 2010 @ 12:40 AM
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reply to post by Nomadmonkey
 


my sentiments exactly, so much mis/dis info out there, thanks for the prodding, its good to always try to root out these details..



posted on Dec, 18 2010 @ 12:43 AM
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I don't need to prove that old material contained in many previous threads. just wasting ATS bandwidth! Yeah looks pretend don't care what you say. Seems like you are on the extremists I mentioned not one the good Moderates or Non practicing. Say what you want you will never ever beat us!



posted on Dec, 18 2010 @ 12:45 AM
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I think you are extremely confused- the thread you are referring to was not about racism,hate, or bigotry- it was about why Muslims/Islam seem to be getting special treatment,favortism, whatever you want to call it- that other races,creeds, religions aren't getting, and people are starting to ask "why??"



posted on Dec, 18 2010 @ 12:50 AM
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who said anything about beating anyone ? infact i believe the us is beating everyone ? what say you ? and you just proved to me and the people on ATS how brain washed you are my good man , let me enlighten you , first i am not a Muslim , second i took that pic to prove a point , third i am an activist for Chechnya and the brutal ethnic clensing that is going on over their , and i am trying to find suport for a landmine clearing company to clear over 500.000 land mines that are killing innocent children in Chechnya ,and while i am doing this , i am finding more people like you who are heartless and closed minded , what have you done to help your fellow man ? better think quick and not make up a story their slick



posted on Dec, 18 2010 @ 12:58 AM
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Originally posted by bladdersweat
reply to post by Nomadmonkey
 


my sentiments exactly, so much mis/dis info out there, thanks for the prodding, its good to always try to root out these details..


Thanks man. I read through page after page of this stufff, and i wonder if anyone even questions the source of it?

You are added into my "Book" of good guys..for what it is worth.. I thank you for helping me see the truth.

peace!

Monkey.



posted on Dec, 18 2010 @ 01:01 AM
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I think allot of the hatred comes from the youth being poorly educated about political situations, by un educated parents telling them how it is.
And the parents (not all of them) being educated about situations by biased media organisations,

Just devoting a little time to reading about what has and what is really going on in the world every day has help'd me smash down my prejudgment of an individual and actually changed the way i think about allot of nations some for the better some for the worse

People fear what the don't understand and hate what they cant conquer

So i think that people fear these people because they are different and don't understand them,
And fighting a war on something that has always been and always will be, is not helping people shed there hatred because they know they can never win and that is why they hate Muslims though association with bad press (The last time i heard the word Muslim it was in the same sentence as suicide bomber)

I advise people to actually study a bit about Islam and it's amazing architecture and its vast ancient scientific, mathematic and medicinal heritage

Sorry for the rant hope some of it makes sense



posted on Dec, 18 2010 @ 01:03 AM
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I have to say that if I follow your logic correctly I completely agree. God is God regardless of the name we humans choose to assign. Where we really go wrong is in corrupting the message and meaning and making it fit our own ambitions, obsessions, and desires. I have a hard time believing that ANY doctrine that kills, oppresses, or punishes the innocent for their beliefs or robs them of their basic human rights has anything to do with God or living righteously. Unfortunately, it seems that almost every religion has committed atrocities through the centuries. What is more unfortunate in my opinion, however, is that while some religions have learned the error of their ways and reformed . . . others still honor and practice these time honored traditions and have changed very little since their beginnings; fortunately there are sects that are an exception.
edit on 18-12-2010 by nonnez because: Added content.



posted on Dec, 18 2010 @ 01:05 AM
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Thats a gross name though man. WTF? Bladdersweat?


Nasty..



posted on Dec, 18 2010 @ 01:06 AM
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posted on Dec, 18 2010 @ 01:08 AM
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Ok we have both had our say!



i am finding more people like you who are heartless and closed minded


So I don't agree with you I am heartless & closed minded & heartless ... I think not!



people on ATS how brain washed you are my good man


Thank you for the respect for calling me a good man (I hope that was not meant in sarcasm) I take you on your word is was not!




second i took that pic to prove a point


OK I will concede that, I am human ... And for the first time ever on ATS I will apologise! Sorry (only for you not anybody else OK) But waiving a Koran you do not need to do that to prove a point!



third i am an activist for Chechnya and the brutal ethnic clensing that is going on over their


Well I actually support Russia There! It is not ethnic cleansing!



and i am trying to find suport for a landmine clearing company to clear over 500.000 land mines that are killing innocent children in Chechnya


Well I don't agree with this & support you on that particular cause unless they are doing what the cowardly Palestinians do & deliberately putting their children in the line of fire as human shields to hide behind.



what have you done to help your fellow man ?


Well I have actually helping good Iraqi immigrants who have integrated well into society in Australia in my capacity working in hospitals! I have also donated money to refugees who have entered Australia legally. I have no time for people who have immigrated illegally!

So there you go I have actually apologised to you on one point something I don't do often on ATS!



posted on Dec, 18 2010 @ 01:16 AM
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Well I have actually helping good Iraqi immigrants who have integrated well into society in Australia in my capacity working in hospitals! I have also donated money to refugees who have entered Australia legally. I have no time for people who have immigrated illegally!

So there you go I have actually apologised to you on one point something I don't do often on ATS!



That is really good man. I look around, and even though i am unemployed, i feel blessed.. and i know i should try to help. When i do get a job, i will look to do this. I will.



posted on Dec, 18 2010 @ 01:28 AM
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Originally posted by Nephi1337
reply to post by phatpackage
 


no sir i believe you have faild ,provide facts please ? what let me remind you that al qaeda was created and funded by the cia ,your facts are wack sir ! their are factions out their that are extreme ,just like we have gangs that are extreme ,so why dam the whole religion ..your more likly to get shot in LA then you are to be hit buy a suicide bomber you puppet you .. keep dancing blind sucker

you forgot to mention ,all the woman getting beaten everyday in your country or killed , and why dont you mention the killings everyday by Israel missiles ? you sound a little extreme to me ,dont taze me bro !
edit on 18-12-2010 by Nephi1337 because: because some people are just dump trucks


I'm sorry but you need to learn to speak English, I'm not sure where you're from but you can barely put a sentence together, let alone a single point.

I don't care if you're from Massachusetts, or Texas, the fact remains you aren't capable of putting a simple thought pattern together, I pray for the youth of these beautiful United States.

Learn to type before coming on to this website and telling us how we should live, you sound like a moronic fool.

You can't even type a sentence without appearing to show your true IQ.



posted on Dec, 18 2010 @ 01:45 AM
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Thank you for pretty much summing up what I was gonna say.

This isn't american propaganda at work, at least not when it comes to us europeans who actually deal with muslims on a day to day basis.
We don't just see these people on TV, we meet them, we get stabbed by them, we get called racist names by them, we get attacked by gangs of them, they rape our women, burn our cities, live on our welfare system.
And they've got the nerve to act like we owe them a living or something, like we should change for them?
They've already turned my country into a shell of it's former self.

This isn't propaganda from FOX.
In fact, it's the opposite. Our government is ruining our country with MASS immigration, seemingly without a plan, pushed by the media.
We're getting attacked, not only by the effects of the muslim immigration, but by our own media and our own government.

You don't like it when american MSM calls you a domestic terrorist for standing up for the constitution?
Well, we can't be critical of immigration or Islam or we're immediately labelled racist even though the current immigration policies are completely out of touch with reality, it's simply unsustainable.

There's so much to say really.. but I'm so sick and tired of this so I'll just blame the USA for their holy war in the middle east giving us Europeans all these lovely muslim refugees.

What we really need to do is to get rid of these abrahamic religions and their demonic "god".

Are you a muslim, or a christian? Deep down inside you know you're wrong.
Christianity and Islam is not compatible with reincarnation.

As far as I know reincarnation is the only hypothesis regarding the after life that has actual evidence(not proof) supporting it.
I keep wishing for a spiritual revolution..

Disclosure of reincarnation or the reality of spiritual phenomena would be amazing.

One can dream.



posted on Dec, 18 2010 @ 02:02 AM
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Originally posted by nonnez
reply to post by oozyism
 


I have to say that if I follow your logic correctly I completely agree. God is God regardless of the name we humans choose to assign. Where we really go wrong is in corrupting the message and meaning and making it fit our own ambitions, obsessions, and desires. I have a hard time believing that ANY doctrine that kills, oppresses, or punishes the innocent for their beliefs or robs them of their basic human rights has anything to do with God or living righteously. Unfortunately, it seems that almost every religion has committed atrocities through the centuries. What is more unfortunate in my opinion, however, is that while some religions have learned the error of their ways and reformed . . . others still honor and practice these time honored traditions and have changed very little since their beginnings; fortunately there are sects that are an exception.
edit on 18-12-2010 by nonnez because: Added content.


Yes names do not matter.

To tell you the truth, you can see connections between scriptures even prior to the Old Testament.

People seem to think that it all started from Old Testament.

Here is an interesting thought:

There are allegations which suggests the Jewish Scripture is a forgery of the Babylonian Scriptures, and that is a forgery of Samarian Scriptures.

A through research in regards would excite you a little bit



posted on Dec, 18 2010 @ 02:26 AM
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Originally posted by oozyism

Yes names do not matter.

To tell you the truth, you can see connections between scriptures even prior to the Old Testament.

People seem to think that it all started from Old Testament.

Here is an interesting thought:

There are allegations which suggests the Jewish Scripture is a forgery of the Babylonian Scriptures, and that is a forgery of Samarian Scriptures.

A through research in regards would excite you a little bit



Well now that you mention that . . . I just finished a class in which we delved into the Sumerian culture and forward in time. Yes, it was rather enlightening yet text-book education in nature. Actually the Jewish people were not the only ones who adopted and passed down earlier cultures beliefs . . . you find pieces of it throughout many religions, but I am sure that you are already aware of that.



posted on Dec, 18 2010 @ 02:33 AM
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Even Buddhism and Hinduism has connections with the recent scriptures.

You just have to read between the lines and see the connection.

It would be amazing what you find.

That is why I love reading historic books and scriptures.
edit on 18-12-2010 by oozyism because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 18 2010 @ 02:42 AM
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This line always get sme - I do not support the murder of innocent people only those who deserve it. Yet in a twisted view of your cult, a person is not innocent if they...

Draw a cartoon.
Are western.
Are part of a country involved in war against ANY islamic nation (Either for or against)
Like to wear short skirts.
Drink.
Have casual sex
Have beards longer than the qur'an prescribes
Wear pants if female
Have no beard
are raped
are raped and complain
complain
want to leave islam
leave islam
write a book
burn a book
say anything that is opposed to a book
learn
teach
and many many more...

Sure, you dont hate innocent people.. But the only god damned innocent people are strict muslims..

BUGGER IT!!


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posted on Dec, 18 2010 @ 02:54 AM
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how about stop saying what should be and understand WHAT IS.

??

If ALL muslims were like you, blimey, we'd live in paradise with you.

BUT YOU ARE NOT. What you have not seen does not mean what IS does not exist.

Ugh, take responsibility for your kin, TELL THEM, not US how you are.

I doubt you will, it's easier to say they are not mine, they are theirs... under the same religion, under the same god, under the same wants...

pfft.
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posted on Dec, 18 2010 @ 03:00 AM
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