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Originally posted by MareBellator
Does this (largely American) hatred and fear of Islam
largely American, really? How did you manage to pinpoint all the "haters" of Islam as American when most people on here that express their dislike of Islam are actually European? This is a global issue, not some US vs. Islam crap.
Originally posted by oozyism
reply to post by Vicky32
I also live in New Zealand, and I'm a Muslim, and I'm an Afghan.
Many Muslims in New Zealand, Kiwis are happy with us, and we are happy living along side them.
It is a great relationship.
The rest of the world, they are succumbed by hate.
Originally posted by Vicky32
I have been reading a thread about a news item from Austria - about a yodelling angry lawn-mowing man. I have utterly shocked by the fear and loathing of Muslims/Islam in that thread.
If people were to make the same type of remarks about Jews, they'd be pounced on so fast their heads would spin.
It's utter and blatant racism that makes me want to vomit in my mouth.
I have to explain my points of view.
I am a Christian, and an ardent pacifist. I have Muslim friends and colleagues. I live in New Zealand - and here most Muslims are refugees from Somalia, Iran, Iraq and Afghanistan...
Does this (largely American) hatred and fear of Islam and Muslims come from fear (after 9/11), ignorance or from the kind of propaganda that Fox News is so famous for...
(I apologise if I have put this thread in the wrong place - I am a comparative newcomer, and I don't know the best place.)
Originally posted by Chett
. SOmething just feels wrong about building mosques at ground zero while making people take down christmas trees.
Originally posted by Eliad
The hypocrisy in this thread is amazing..
It's funny how some of the people who post here speak so ill of people the who hate Islam, and at the same time hate Israel for the same reasons.
Let's be real here-
Muslims hate Jews and Christians, Christians hate Jews and Muslims, Jews hate Muslims and Christians.
Everybody likes Buddhists.
Hatred comes from ignorance, immaturity or rage issues.
Islam is no more hated than Israel or Judaism, and it is hated by the same type of ignorant people, for the same kind of ignorant reasons.edit on 18-12-2010 by Eliad because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by mike_trivisonno
You confuse hatred of muslims for hatred of jihad.
The "hatred" comes from 1,400 years of nonstop Islamic Jihad against ALL non-muslims across the planet.
Wherever muslims interface with non-muslims there is violent Jihad.
Your question would be better posed to the adherents of the faith for which you apologize.
Why the planetary Jihad for 1,400 years? Why?
Originally posted by scoutsniper
reply to post by The Djin
CAN MUSLIMS BE GOOD CITIZENS?
This is very interesting and we all need to read it from start to finish and send it on to everyone. Maybe this is why our American Muslims are so quiet and not speaking out about any atrocities.
Can a good Muslim be a good American? This question was forwarded to a friend who worked in Saudi Arabia for 20 years. The following is his reply:
Theologically - no. . . . Because his allegiance is to Allah, The moon god of Arabia .
Religiously - no.. . . Because no other religion is accepted by His Allah except Islam (Quran, 2:256)(Koran)
Scripturally - no. . . Because his allegiance is to the
five Pillars of Islam and the Quran.
Geographically - no . Because his allegiance is to Mecca , to which he turns in prayer five times a day.
Socially - no. . . Because his allegiance to Islam forbids him to make friends with Christians or Jews .
Politically - no.. . . Because he must submit to the mullahs (spiritual leaders), who teach annihilation of Israel and destruction of America, the great Satan.
Domestically - no. .. . Because he is instructed to marry four Women and beat and scourge his wife when she disobeys him (Quran 4:34 )
Intellectually - no. . Because he cannot accept the American Constitution since it is based on Biblical principles and he believes the bible to be corrupt.
Philosophically - no. . . . Because Islam, Muhammad, and the Quran does not allow freedom of religion and expression. Democracy and Islam cannot co-exist.
Every Muslim government is either dictatorial or autocratic.
Spiritually - no.. . . Because when we declare 'one nation under God,' the Christian's God is loving and kind, while Allah is NEVER referred to as Heavenly father, nor is he ever called love in the Quran's 99 excellent names.
Therefore, after much study and deliberation.... Perhaps we should be very suspicious of ALL MUSLIMS in this country. - - - They obviously cannot be both 'good' Muslims and good Americans. Call it what you wish it's still the truth. You had better believe it. The more who understand this, the better it will be for our country and our future.
The religious war is bigger than we know or understand. ....