Hatred for Muslims/Islam on ATS - where does it come from?, page 1
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reply posted on 17-12-2010 @ 07:47 AM by Corruption Exposed
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If people were to make the same type of remarks about Jews, they'd be pounced on so fast their heads would spin.


Star & Flag for you my friend.

Those were my thoughts exactly when I was halfway through your thread, then I read those words. It seems only certain classifications are immune from criticism. Criticism should be given fairly and when it is due, it should never not be given due to the fact that it may offend certain groups of people. NO ONE is immune from fair and worthy criticism.

If the criticism is unjust or just plain stupid, then usually the criticism is coming from someone who is angry, racist, or just didn't think before they typed their post or opened their mouth.



reply posted on 17-12-2010 @ 08:18 AM by midicon
reply to post by Vicky32



Just to point out, and it may seem a little pedantic. The term 'muslim' does not refer to race. The use of the term 'racism' in your OP is not really relevant. It should be 'bigotry. Of course bigots can also be racists, but sometimes the terms are confused. How many times have you heard it said that religious groups use the 'race card' when replying to specific incidents. In essence they are two seperate issues.


reply posted on 17-12-2010 @ 08:25 AM by badw0lf
reply to post by Vicky32



Who hates Muslims? Hmm.. They are people, just like you or I.

However Islam is a shady bloody sneak.

I don't like obvious cults..

*No I am NOT an xtian*


reply posted on 17-12-2010 @ 08:27 AM by Benevolent Heretic
Originally posted by Vicky32
Does this (largely American) hatred and fear of Islam and Muslims come from fear (after 9/11), ignorance or from the kind of propaganda that Fox News is so famous for...


Yes, the hatred for Muslims originates from fear (of those different from us), ignorance and propaganda. Plus a few other reasons.

One: Willful ignorance of the part the West has played in systematically attacking and attempting to destroy the Muslim strongholds around the world. If people would look at history and how the West has treated Muslim countries in the past, they might have some inking of understanding, but they ignore it.

Two: Arrogance. The Arrogance of Americans. They think we're "right" to go after "our" resources in these other countries. They think it's OK to invade countries around the world and try to make them live by our laws and morals. They think America has it figured out and we have some sort of divine right to tell the rest of the world how to live.

Three: Greed. Many Americans don't understand the concept of sharing the world and her resources with all the people of the world. They seem to think they own it all and are letting other people live here out of some kindness... But many think that the US should own everything.

I'm sure there are other reasons (like bigotry), but I think those are the top, IMO.

Fortunately, some (and I would venture to say most) people understand that religious extremists do not represent the whole. Christian extremists don't represent the whole of Christians and Muslim extremists don't represent the whole of Muslims. The vocal minority just doesn't want to accept that.


reply posted on 17-12-2010 @ 08:40 AM by torqpoc
reply to post by Vicky32



Hi Vicky32,
You raise a good point, however it's kind of naive in a way. That was not meant in a bad way by the way, naivety is a kind of compliment.

In the context of the post about the Austrian having to pay because he yodelled and his Muslim neighbours took offense. Well at face value it's the most moronic thing i've ever heard:
a) the Muslims should be more tolerant, especially since they choose to live in Austria a non Muslim country. They are at fault for their lack of intelligence and lack of integration
b) the government is at fault for even contemplating, let alone aggreeing, to fine the Austrian
c) the media plays us all for fools and thus pushes the fear/hatred agenda. N.B. The media is owned and controlled by Jews pushing their own Zionist agenda.

As to why there is so much hatred. If you actually dissect the hatred for what it is, some of it is warranted. Noone likes the thought of a chap wearing a belt full of explosives blowing himself up in the name of Allah. On the flip side noone likes the way the Zionist regime is controlling the media and pushing it's own hate campaign against the Muslims and hiding the fact.

On to the crux of the problem, this has been going on since the beginning of religion. Religion in itself is a form of mind control and serves to keep us all, the Christians, the Jews and the Muslims, in a constant state of fear and loathing of each other. You state you're an ardant Christian, thankfully you're one of those with open eyes, the rest cannot be said for the more fanatic Christians out there. I hate to say this to you, but your post deserves an honest approach and response: All religion is based in pure falsehood and serves to exploit human weakness in order to make money out of it, fact!

Regards,
T


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reply posted on 17-12-2010 @ 08:42 AM by Nephi1337
Originally posted by dylandalek
Islam and Muslims seek to cause harm to innocent people because of the actions of my government. They do not understand that the people had no say in both the Iraq or Afghanistan wars, and they see us as the target. That is what makes them the threat, and is why I loath every single one of them, and their religion. They would kill me and my family because of something we had nothing to do with.


what makes you think your a target ? and first let me tell you your views of Islam are very twisted ,you have been feeding off the propaganda machine , let me enlighten you a bit ! 6 months ago if you would have met me ,you would have been very comfortable around me ! why ? because i was the biggest Islam hater ! i hated Muslims why? because i DID NOT UNDERSTAND ! and i was feeding off the propaganda machine ! , so in my path to gain spritule enlightenment and believe me when i tell you my good man i have been on this path for a very long time - so i decided to open my heart and see what Islam was all about - and woe ! to me i noticed that the music did not sound evil anymore ,nor did i get a bad feelings from it anymore ..infant the truth is i found peace a peace i have never seen any any religion i have studied , now its only a mater of time that i must take to deprogram my self from the religion i was raised in ! ,so the moral to the story is , NO! your family will not be hunted down ! do you really feel thees people would do this ? bare in mind they are humans ..let me QUOTE you a little something from their "evil book"
Those who believe in the Our' an, and those who fallow the Jewish scriptures ,and the Christians and the Fabians and who believe in Allah (OR GOD CAUSE ALLAH MEANS GOD) and the last day ,and work righteousness , shall have their reward with their Lord ,on them shall be no fear ,nor shall they grieve


keep in mind that theese people do not just go out and kill people ! it is a big sin to do that ,however they will only attack ,if their religion is being attacked or if their home is being attacked , and it sounds like to me that thats just what the USA and other supporting country's are doing ? is it not ? would you not defend your home ? would you not defend your creator ?

you see evil killers ,i see brave warriors willing to die for their creator ,let me ask you if you have a religion ,and you believe in your god ,would you not die to protect his word ?


Nephi
edit on 17-12-2010 by Nephi1337 because: my spelling is off the wall , lol



reply posted on 17-12-2010 @ 08:52 AM by dylandalek
reply to post by Nephi1337



I would never take advice from someone who capitulates their soul to that evil cult, to support these murderers in the way you have described galvanises my belief that you are all evil.
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