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Originally posted by spy66
There are no solid facts that support the Big Bang it is just a theory still.
The light and radiation that they claim they have observed is not any proof once or ever.
It can't be proven that it is from the Big Bang. They cant prove where its from at all. They can just observe it, time it and make a claim.
Originally posted by Cosmic.Artifact
yep today Atheists are still arrogant
I am mounting evidence here to support my theory, which is very 'scientific' by method of collecting data.
some just have no vision
or totally took all the wrong classes in school, hehe...
Originally posted by Blue_Jay33
Here is the problem. If you know your right no matter how humble or laid back you want to be, it always leads to arrogance in any field of knowledge, it's human nature.
Although I have meet people who are right on a topic and never mount a defense they just smile and carry on.
Radical atheism is arrogant, it can't help itself, it is embedded in it's very existence.
There are some people on YouTube like this.
And the ones on ATS well they are the ones posting in a dedicated religious sub-forum of ATS.
It is a bit of an invasion of late and it must be fought. I think it's because ATS/BTS were merged.
Originally posted by SpaceJ
reply to post by Cosmic.Artifact
You never really answer me directly. Do you understand how the word atheist is used? If you are a Christian, then you are an atheist to the Egyptian and Greek gods.
Reply: There is only one god, there is only one god whom is love.
Anyone with a belief is by effect going to have a disbelief in other things that contradict their belief.
Reply: By effect, there is a dualistic mindset needed therefore. Love is no dualism.
Why do Christians assume that anytime a person uses the word "god" that they must be referring the the Christian god???
Reply: This is not assumed I suppose.
edit on 12/20/2010 by SpaceJ because: fix
An invasion? I'm sorry, but I've been on this subforum since I started my time on ATS, wayyy back before you were a member.
Originally posted by Blue_Jay33
reply to post by SpaceJ
Actually the Abrahamic God is the most common in the world as he is believed by most.
Islam, Christianity, & Judaism. That's billions of people. So when people say "God" most assume you are speaking of this one. Not Zeus or Vishna or some other extinct deity like Baal or Dagon.
reply to post by Kailassa
I actually agree with Newton in two key area's, there is no immortality of the soul, and there is no Trinity, at least with Newton he could understand some of the bible, he was way ahead of his time for basic biblical understanding, because of his intelligence and not willing to be swayed by prior church dogma.
edit on 20-12-2010 by Blue_Jay33 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by madnessinmysoul
reply to post by spy66
Oh, and there's also the motion of the universe. If you track the motion of everything in the universe backwards we all started out in one point. How does that not prove the BBT?
Well, I was saying waaay back in reference to it being over five years ago now.
I've been on this subforum since I started my time on ATS, wayyy back before you were a member.
Originally posted by madnessinmysoul
reply to post by spy66
I'm going to give you just the short answer because I'm doing some cooking and you seem to have a misconception about science.
Basically, the Big Bang Theory would hold true if it were all the product of the actions of a magical space burrito.
Originally posted by Titen-Sxull
reply to post by Cosmic.Artifact
I really am quite tired of your troll-like tactics in this particular thread. You posted this as bait and we atheists fell into your trap only to be smeared further with unfounded assertions about our character. Well I for one am done in this thread as you are clearly not interested in a discussion of whether or not atheists ARE indeed arrogant and have already made up your mind. You followed through by leading us on and never addressing any real points in order to get us to display our "arrogance" as thought it would support your assertions.
I'm done until I see a bit more maturity and an actual desire to have an honest discussion rather than just troll atheists to tell us we're all jerks, liars, thieves and arrogant snipholes.
Originally posted by madnessinmysoul
reply to post by SpaceJ
Actually, I was cooking up some nice chicken.
As for creation vs evolution...we can know for sure. We are sure. There's mountain ranges worth of evidence in favor of evolution, yet none in favor of creationism.
Originally posted by SpaceJ
Originally posted by madnessinmysoul
reply to post by spy66
I'm going to give you just the short answer because I'm doing some cooking and you seem to have a misconception about science.
Basically, the Big Bang Theory would hold true if it were all the product of the actions of a magical space burrito.
Madness, I wonder if you are cooking a burrito?
Anyway, all this discussion of evolution vs. creation is tiring. No one at this point can know for sure. Some place their trust in creation and some in evolution. What is the difference really? We all have opinions, but none of us can "know". There is no answer for this, at least not right now. Those who place trust in religion choose creation, those who place trust in science choose evolution. I wish we could all just accept that we don't know for certain, we have great ideas, great philosophies, great stories, and great theories, but until then...edit on 12/20/2010 by SpaceJ because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Cosmic.Artifact
Originally posted by madnessinmysoul
reply to post by SpaceJ
Actually, I was cooking up some nice chicken.
As for creation vs evolution...we can know for sure. We are sure. There's mountain ranges worth of evidence in favor of evolution, yet none in favor of creationism.
I thought we already established that Evolution was a part of Creation ?
I am getting dizzy going around in all these loops...
Originally posted by Cosmic.Artifact
Originally posted by madnessinmysoul
reply to post by SpaceJ
Actually, I was cooking up some nice chicken.
As for creation vs evolution...we can know for sure. We are sure. There's mountain ranges worth of evidence in favor of evolution, yet none in favor of creationism.
I thought we already established that Evolution was a part of Creation ?
I am getting dizzy going around in all these loops...
Originally posted by spy66
It seams like madness..... has the scientific answer to how a singularity came to be. But so far he has given nothing scientific. More like an excuse of some sort.
Because if science could produce facts about the Big Bang theory there would be "one theory" not many different once.
And he should be able to answer my questions with ease.
But i guess the Big Bang theory is just as good as the religious one.
The only difference here is in what theory he believes in.