Senate Republicans play the "Christmas" card

Too funny, Senate Republicans are boo hooing about having to DO THEIR JOB during holidays.

According to the New York Times, Kyl said: "It is impossible to do all of the things that the majority leader laid out without doing — frankly, without disrespecting the institution and without disrespecting one of the two holiest of holidays for Christians and the families of all of the Senate, not just the senators themselves but all of the staff."

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Wait until the new "Weeper of the House" gets wind of this, he'll be crying like a baby.

It is an important piece of legislation that requires action in a timely manner. (SALT Treaty)

Give me a break.

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BTW: Did anyone else notice that even Pat Buchanan thinks the Senate should ratify the New START treaty?


Sen. Jon Kyl of Arizona is holding up the treaty until he gets more assurances that the administration will do the tests and upgrades necessary to maintain the reliability of U.S. nuclear weapons. He should receive those assurances.
Maintaining the credibility of the U.S. deterrent is a vital national interest. But does this justify holding the treaty hostage?

Without a treaty, we lose our right and our ways and means to verify that Russia is carrying out the terms of arms treaties already agreed upon.

How does leaving the United States in the dark about who is doing what with Moscow’s nuclear weapons enhance our security?

Not only are our allies behind this treaty — as are Republican secretaries of state and defense and ex-national security advisers — so, too, is the Pentagon.

If the joint chiefs say this treaty is good for America, what do the reluctant Republican senators believe is wrong with it? Have they considered the impact of the treaty’s defeat on Russia?


When Pat Buchanan and George W.H. Bush both say the treaty is the right move, it's hard to buy Kyl's concerns about it weakening America.

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The republicans want to read the entire omnibus legislation, all 2000 pages of it, out loud.

This effort is to block the outrageous spending bill from passing during a lame duck session.

The democrats are crying because they don't want the people to know what is in the 1.1 trillion dollar spending bill.

They are using the START treaty as an excuse to beotch about republicans holding up their crony corporate deals.

Democrats are saying the public should not know what is in the bill and they should vote on it without reading it because it is holding up the START treaty.

I don't know about you, but the nuke treaty can wait.

I think the real concern is pieces of garbage like the DREAM act. With Lame ducks in the position to pass law without having to worry about being accountable to the people, who voted them out of office, it is a very dangerous time in D.C..

Hey! Destroying the country is a hard job, pal! You need a break sometimes... geez.

Originally posted by mnemeth1

I don't know about you, but the nuke treaty can wait.

You are right, you don't know about me. I couldn't disagree more. (Neither can Pat Buchanan - big neocon)

Originally posted by kinda kurious

Originally posted by mnemeth1

I don't know about you, but the nuke treaty can wait.

You are right, you don't know about me. I couldn't disagree more. (Neither can Pat Buchanan - big neocon)

So you take your cues from Pat Buchanan?

There is no time urgency with a nuclear treaty.

It can wait.

Originally posted by kinda kurious

Originally posted by mnemeth1

I don't know about you, but the nuke treaty can wait.

You are right, you don't know about me. I couldn't disagree more. (Neither can Pat Buchanan - big neocon)

I do not know what Socialist links you get your facts from but Pat Buchanan is most definitely not a Neocon.

He has denounced George W. Bush and the Republican Party on more than one occasion, even leaving the party due to Neocons. He considers them non-conservatives.

Buchanan vocally opposes those neoconservatives whom he calls "undocumented aliens from the Left, carrying with them the viruses of statism and globalism". He describes their first generation as people who began as "Trotskyist, socialists or Social Democrat", then became "JFK-LBJ Democrats", but broke with the Left during the Vietnam War and "came into their own" during Reagan's administration.He said he welcomed neoconservatives during the early 1970s, but that it has become an inquisition, "hurling anathemas at any who decline to embrace their revised dogmas." Buchanan compares "Neocons" to squatters who take over a once-beloved home (the Republican Party) and convert it into a crack house.

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So keep shouting your ignorant and flat-out incorrect accusation, show us exactly what kind of clueless Leftie you are.

We should eliminate the lame duck session altogether. Only emergency votes and debates should occur from the election until inauguration of the new Congress. The Left keeps pushing through their garbage legislation, which Americans clearly renounced in November, against the will of the people. Now they want to keep these staffers, Senators, and Congressman working through the holiday’s which are important to most of these people.

Why are they not allowed to go home to their families for Christmas and New Year’s? The START treaty should have been ratified before the election but now it should wait until 2011. It could be the first priority for the next Congress.

Originally posted by Misoir
Why are they not allowed to go home to their families for Christmas and New Year’s?

Stop, I'm getting misty.

As far as eliminating 'lame duck' session, that is just patently absurd. The duly elected officials have an obligation to their constituency. (Notwithstanding Sarah Palin, of course)

As far as Buchanan's flavor of conservatism, I suppose anyone slightly left of McCarthy ain't extreme enough for you.

Originally posted by kinda kurious

Originally posted by Misoir
Why are they not allowed to go home to their families for Christmas and New Year’s?

Stop, I'm getting misty.

As far as eliminating 'lame duck' session, that is just patently absurd. The duly elected officials have an obligation to their constituency. (Notwithstanding Sarah Palin, of course)

As far as Buchanan's flavor of conservatism, I suppose anyone slightly left of McCarthy ain't extreme enough for you.

edit on 16-12-2010 by kinda kurious because: typos

Their supposed duty is to obey the will of the public and the US Constitution in the crafting of their legislation.

Their duty is not to pass 1.1 trillion dollar spending bills - unread - that violate every single clause of the US Constitution - AFTER the public has voted them out of office no less.

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I would equate the SALT treaty to worrying about buying new curtains,while the house is on fire. This omnibus bill is a glaring representation of everything wrong with Washington D.C. SALT is by no means a pressing matter.

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How do you come to the conclusion that “anyone slightly left of McCarthy is to extreme for” me?

Oh no not a big scary Conservative! I must be one right-wing zealot, obviously my voting Democrat this year means McCarthy to me is a raging Commie. Sorry but I am not a Liberal or a Conservative, just an Old School Democrat who is pissed off at Liberal hippies for hijacking the party of my family for over a century.

And to think I too use to be a Liberal/Socialist.

Personally, I'd like to see:

• Every single bill, resolution, or amendment required to be read in full before a vote can be made on it
  
• Every Senator/Representative required to be present and awake during the entire reading in order to be able to cast a vote on a bill, resolution, or amendment
  
• Every Senator/Representative's pay docked for every vote they miss for any reason, and unable to run for re-election for any public office for 20 years if they miss a certain percentage of votes (10%?)

Just call me hard-hearted for expecting the people I hire to do their job....

TheRedneck

It seems to me that the Republicans brought this unto themselves when they sent the signed letter that they would block ALL legislation before the tax cuts, and budget resolution was addressed. Therefore because they used obstructionism for all other items, now they are whining. This is why Americans disapprove of how Congress is doing because there is too much bickering instead of working together in a system of checks and balances on behalf of the American people. Both sides are stewards that should represent the will of the American people.

As I write this, it appears a late breaking development is that Reid is pulling omnibus bill.

The Fat Lady is just humming scales. Stay tuned........

Besides I can see why the GOP is upset about working over Christmas, they can't find 3 wise men.

Originally posted by kinda kurious
This is why Americans disapprove of how Congress is doing because there is too much bickering instead of working together in a system of checks and balances on behalf of the American people. Both sides are stewards that should represent the will of the American people.

When absolutely no legislation is passed in Lame Duck session my will is well represented, may the Omnibus die a tortuous death in abyss that is known as congress along with all the other crud liable to vomit forth.

Work through Christmas?

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Yep Reid pulled the bill. Porkulus interuptus ! The three wise men crack was funny ! Maybe they could look to Nancy Pelosi He's pretty smart !!

Originally posted by daddyroo45
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Maybe they could look to Nancy Pelosi He's pretty smart !!

You may have a point s/he sure cries less than Boehner.

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You're so right. I attribute that ability to a lack of tear ducts from all that cosmetic surgery

Hmmmmm . . . . home for Christmas with the family . . . . let me see here . . . . for those of us who still work, real jobs, the home for Christmas with the family thing kinda goes like this . . . you get off work at about 3 p.m. on Christmas Eve day, hit a few stores on the way home to get the last few forgotten things, get home at about 6 p.m. . . . spend a whirlwind 36 hours with the family before you have to turn in and get some sleep before heading back to work on Boxing Day . . .

I'd like to see those triple chinned martini guzzlers try that year after year . . . what a bunch of whining maggots.

They really and truly believe they're entitled.

As I said in another thread . . . BOO FRICKTY HOOOOOO WHAAAAAAA WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Pass out a couple hundred ball gags, some kleenex and make reading glasses available to the sucky sucky whiners and tell them if they get reading right pronto, they can order in pizza an sodas for a 30 minute lunch break like the rest of us working sods and then they can get back at it . . . and tell them to quit mugging for the cameras and grandstanding for the party . . . we're sick of it.

Pitter Patter, you dolts . . . time's a wastin'!