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Pareidolia and imagery anomalies on Mars: Case study#1 Bonestell Crater Part 1

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posted on Dec, 30 2010 @ 04:26 PM
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Originally posted by alphaMegas
so, its been a while, but b4 anything else, i like to greet everybody here in ats a happy new year in advance, am sure tomorrow night i wont be able to tap on these k-boards.
Happy new year.



Just a note for the mod.
Are you talking to me? ATS has many mods, but only one ArMaP.



maybe this time, may i ask you a little favor, if you can indulge yourself to look at these images in the google format, just colour your world once in a while...
Why should I look to something that does not represent things as good as the original photos?

I don't want to see compression and resizing artefacts, I want to see the real images, not what some algorithm decides is the best version of some pixels.

That's the same thing as looking at the world through hammered glass goggles.

But I always look at the Google images for comparison.


Now this "guy" is about 7 meters tall, and its a humanoid in form...the rest is up for grabs.
Once more, I don't see any humanoid traces.

I don't see anything that differentiates that "guy" from the rest of the ground.


the second image is my favorite martian,


whats the catch?
he's wearing a nice pair of sneakers...nike perhaps or adidas,well whatever, but one thing is for sure, its not made in china, its made in Mars...
Sure, and a Casio watch.


How can you seriously extrapolate those images into the things you mention?




posted on Jan, 1 2011 @ 12:54 PM
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Originally posted by ArMaP

Originally posted by alphaMegas
so, its been a while, but b4 anything else, i like to greet everybody here in ats a happy new year in advance, am sure tomorrow night i wont be able to tap on these k-boards.
Happy new year.



Why should I look to something that does not represent things as good as the original photos?

I don't want to see compression and resizing artefacts, I want to see the real images, not what some algorithm decides is the best version of some pixels.

That's the same thing as looking at the world through hammered glass goggles.

But I always look at the Google images for comparison.

And talking bout "algorithm", In its most general sense, an algorithm is any set of detailed instructions which results in a predictable end-state from a known beginning. Algorithms are only as good as the instructions given, however, and the result will be incorrect if the algorithm is not properly defined.Now this thing work both ways.
"They" could very well program their instructions so as to maintain the grayscale and dotted landscape or fix them pixels up so good that we cannot believe in what we are seeing or looking ....
what do you think


www.youtube.com...
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posted on Jan, 1 2011 @ 01:20 PM
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Originally posted by alphaMegas
And talking bout "algorithm", In its most general sense, an algorithm is any set of detailed instructions which results in a predictable end-state from a known beginning.
I only talked about the JPEG compression algorithm, a specific algorithm that creates known artefacts in known conditions, like sudden changes from dark to light or subtle colours changes.


"They" could very well program their instructions so as to maintain the grayscale and dotted landscape or fix them pixels up so good that we cannot believe in what we are seeing or looking ....
what do you think
I don't understand what you mean, sorry.



posted on Jan, 3 2011 @ 09:28 AM
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I think that's a small (10 metres) crater.



In the original image, that crater (if it's a crater) is only 40 pixels wide, how can you say that those pixels are "anomalous figures"? There's nothing identifiable on that image.


I could have been hasty with my presentation on this 10 metre diameter of a crater so i would like to take a peek again on this "crater".
though you presented it in the b/w (grayscale) format still there is a discernible blot orsomething within it.
so i decided to revisit that site. and here's what i can come up with at least some identifiable images.


and i did missed out other images around this face...



and here's another look at "them"...



"i'm home...

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posted on Jan, 6 2011 @ 12:06 PM
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"The Face"



this iconic image stirs a lot of imagination way back in the 70's and though very recently there has been lots of upgraded version, it still is an enigma. In the sense that no one really has ascertained that such is a "face".
A humanoid face? a pure play on lights and shadows? a face of an astrounaut? a face on one of The apes of the Planet of the Apes movie?
And lots of say "science writers", fact or fiction they are, made quite a lot in terms of money and reputation just because of this face...some are called charlatans, some loonies, and some just merely , stupes....name it you have it...
though some came through, it's not with out scratches...those who towed the line , well, they come clear and clean...I dont want to name names, I mean those who came out with scratches, here cause their concepts are inconsequential to what i believe even before they started to become "researchers/writers/. But we could be on the same fringes.
So as i stated in my previous threads in this post, the face is on a naturally occuring mound, massive it may be,
but somethings we have on earth. The great pyramid on giza is founded on a naturally protruding rock base, the Nazca lines are situated in an elevated area, and the sphinx shows a face...but how they were constucted and who, is really boggling us mankind ever since we took noticed of them.

So then, if we got it here, and they got it there, where are they and who are they?
Those that we have on earth, we can easily claim as done by our "ancient ancestors"as what is the mainstream thoughts are towing, but what about the ones on Mars, say the Face on Mars itself...How can we account for its existince? Ancients too? well thats were the enigma lies...
What I am presenting here are some images, though in itself and how it came about is also frowned on, then maybe some real imaging and pixel experts have their field on this.
This part of the Face on Mars is just about the Apex. And i drew an almost rectangular lines that covers approx. 40 x 20 meters of an area where the the highest elevation could be...



I rounded up some interesting images such as the one with the heart-shaped line:



and this...

he may look hideous, but he's got a face alright.


a lots of strange looking faces and you have the coordinates...

now, this oddities seems to be not oddities anymore but more of the usual things...
now am no imagery expert nor a photo buff, but how these images came to appear in numbers, makes them more of a regular feature than flukes...




all i can say is that , There are faces on the Face on Mars...










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posted on Jan, 8 2011 @ 10:04 AM
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This image shows that area in its original, pre-processed version.



Do you still see all of those things you see in the processed, converted and compressed Google Mars version?



posted on Jan, 8 2011 @ 09:21 PM
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Originally posted by ArMaP
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This image shows that area in its original, pre-processed version.



Do you still see all of those things you see in the processed, converted and compressed Google Mars version?


No more, obviously, not on this one...
this is kind of looking at the top of your head without you knowing its your head you're looking at...sort of...



posted on Jan, 9 2011 @ 05:43 AM
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That's why I always like to look at the originals, if possible.



posted on Jan, 9 2011 @ 08:19 AM
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thanks for the "background checks" on the originals.

still am curios how that image on the "10 meter" crater got into the picture with very clear facial definitions
and even the hue of the face itself.

i did check the "original' it shows a distinct blot in it...and with the google version you see the face.



posted on Jan, 18 2011 @ 12:29 PM
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Here's another streamlined view of an "unimposing" Martian tract. Looks very desolate and just "rocks" all over.


and if you check this coords: 8 45'20.37"N 150 38'57.83"E again those enigmatic humanoid images comes into view....


if we can go on with the "ufo" sightings here on planet earth, i think we should also keep loking at the red planet.
i think that's where the connection is...
im a firm believer that we are not alone, so you'll have more of these images coming in...from mars



posted on Jan, 18 2011 @ 02:04 PM
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Nothing there, but dunes and shadows....

Seriously, there is nothing of the sort you think you see, there.



posted on Jan, 18 2011 @ 09:24 PM
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Originally posted by weedwhacker
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Nothing there, but dunes and shadows....

Seriously, there is nothing of the sort you think you see, there.


its alright by me...but do you have any feedback for us how these images came to be?
you see you're much sought opinion seems to be cached and the images im putting in is actually for scrutiny not just cliches...



posted on Jan, 21 2011 @ 02:44 PM
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howdy ww?
have you come across these "Rings on Mars"?


i would like to consider these rings as a work of nature, just like when we look at the tree rings to determine its age. but there is so much uniformity in this structure to consider it "a natures engineering feat".
1. from the approximate center of this concentric rings with the orientation towards the East there is a rise of about 5 meters towards the 1st tier.Indicated by the red line.
2. from the 1st tier to the 2nd it rises to about a meter.indicated by the blue line.
3. from the 2nd tier to the 3rd tier it rises to about 2 meters indicated by the pink line.and so on...

my point is there is uniformity in this structure which is indicative of being artificial.


and of course the enigmatic humanoid images.





the whole area is full of "images" not only inside those rings but the adjacent areas too....
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posted on Jan, 21 2011 @ 03:02 PM
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Originally posted by alphaMegas
and if you check this coords: 8 45'20.37"N 150 38'57.83"E again those enigmatic humanoid images comes into view....
I don't see anything looking like humanoid images.

I noticed that most of the images you post are seen in perspective, while they were taken from an almost vertical direction, so that way of looking at them introduces new artefacts.


if we can go on with the "ufo" sightings here on planet earth, i think we should also keep loking at the red planet.
UFOs are everywhere, they only need to be flying and be unidentified.



i think that's where the connection is...
I don't think so, with the thousands of Mars photos we have I have only seen two (I think) that showed something that looked like it could be in the air and that was unidentified.


im a firm believer that we are not alone, so you'll have more of these images coming in...from mars
I'm not, but I think that's highly likely, but I don't think Mars has advanced life forms.



posted on Jan, 21 2011 @ 03:21 PM
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Those are some STUNNINGLY beautiful pictures, of natural formations on another planet!


Finding them, and posting (and sharing) is a great service to ATS.

Still....there could be many, many comparisons made, to those photos, to others taken here on Earth.

The circular formation, at the heart of that, could either be from a meteor impact, or an old volcanic caldera. The "snow" (I put "snow" in quotes because, it's most likely frozen carbon dioxide ---- "dry ice" ---) is also an indication (I didn't check the coordinatesof the image) that it is near one of the poles.


Other than some GREAT, and sharp and clear images.....they are just, to my mind, images of Nature. NOt too far removed from so many other stunning views we may find here, on this planet too.

Still.....the incredible variety of what can form, due to natural processes, will never cease to amaze..........no matter WHICH planet we may be viewing!!!
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posted on Jan, 21 2011 @ 03:33 PM
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Do you know this Earth formation in Mauritania?



posted on Jan, 27 2011 @ 02:06 PM
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Originally posted by ArMaP
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Do you know this Earth formation in Mauritania?


been out for so long...just taking care of business...


oh yes nobody can miss this "richat structure" down in Mauritania , when you're in space...
And its way too vast to the one in mars. proximately 20x wider in diameter.
the one in mars is just an extended version of the "Colosseum" in rome.in the scale of 1:18.


The rings on mars do have berms/tiers with a semblance of regularity in its form and structures which is indicative of being intelligently enhanced if not constructed, and of course the pesky and enigmatic humanoid
images.






rocks? dunes? there's lots of them here ...
i know, when all the research that our mainstream reseachers on mars cant even come up to the bacterial level, these images will just go to drain...
anyway, these are alternatives....



posted on Jan, 27 2011 @ 02:15 PM
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I tell you what the more I research of Mars the more I am intrigued by it. Currently, I am researching Sir. Charles Shultz and his theory about fossils on Mars. I tell you what he presents a very credible case of microlife on Mars. Still doing research of course just like anyone else. But his case of Mars in ice age and how the sea's may return when Mars warms up is intriguing. Here's his Mars fossil's case for instance. www.shultslaboratories.com...



posted on Jan, 27 2011 @ 02:27 PM
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Anomolie's Abound on the surface of Mars , and to Define what some of them are is Speculative at best . YOU decide .



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posted on Jan, 27 2011 @ 02:41 PM
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hi Golithion,
went through your "sir william shults lll"and yes the fossils are there....but i think nasa "landed" those probes, rovers and spirits, whatever, to a really desolate place where no one can say yes or no....



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