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Originally posted by CastleMadeOfSand
If you give them an axe, they could build a boat and come back looking for vengeance! We all know how crafty they can be. That is assuming they didn't kill each other first. Then we'd have axe wielding ex-cons on the loose.
Originally posted by mydarkpassenger
Originally posted by CastleMadeOfSand
If you give them an axe, they could build a boat and come back looking for vengeance! We all know how crafty they can be. That is assuming they didn't kill each other first. Then we'd have axe wielding ex-cons on the loose.
That's why the OP said what he did about patrol boats, by the way OP, starred and flagged.
Originally posted by mydarkpassenger
reply to post by onehuman
I couldn't agree more.
Have you ever read Heinlein's novella "Coventry"? The basic premise is that if you violate society's laws, you have rejected that society, and have exempted yourself from that society's protection.
You are exiled to a place called Coventry, where murderers rub elbows with pick-pockets and embezzlers.
One where the inmates literally run the asylum and make their own societies, sometimes quite horrific ones.
Originally posted by Dr Cosma
Yep, only bad thing would be if some one is wrongfully accused and sent there.
Then they find they are innocent, but by that time somebody will have made a trophy out of their skull.
Then as time goes by, not a long time one could guess until the media jumps on it.
The Running Man?
Originally posted by CastleMadeOfSand
Originally posted by mydarkpassenger
Originally posted by CastleMadeOfSand
If you give them an axe, they could build a boat and come back looking for vengeance! We all know how crafty they can be. That is assuming they didn't kill each other first. Then we'd have axe wielding ex-cons on the loose.
That's why the OP said what he did about patrol boats, by the way OP, starred and flagged.
Must have skipped that part! Are they gonna patrol during hurricanes? Seems that would be a good time to plan an escape. They have nothing to lose, they will die either way.
edit on 12/16/2010 by CastleMadeOfSand because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Dr Cosma
Yep, only bad thing would be if some one is wrongfully accused and sent there.
Then they find they are innocent, but by that time somebody will have made a trophy out of their skull.
Then as time goes by, not a long time one could guess until the media jumps on it.
The Running Man?
Originally posted by getreadyalready
Originally posted by Dr Cosma
Yep, only bad thing would be if some one is wrongfully accused and sent there.
Then they find they are innocent, but by that time somebody will have made a trophy out of their skull.
Then as time goes by, not a long time one could guess until the media jumps on it.
The Running Man?
Here is the only problem I see. I don't believe that drug offenses, petty theft, statuatory anything, tax evasion, and many other things are actually "criminal." We would have to reserve the island for "real" criminals with "real" victims. Violence would be a clear indication. A dead body, missing body with forensics, or a live victim to testify against them in court should be the line in my opinion. Here in the US we over use our prison system dramatically, and it is sad and expensive.
Originally posted by getreadyalready
Originally posted by Dr Cosma
Yep, only bad thing would be if some one is wrongfully accused and sent there.
Then they find they are innocent, but by that time somebody will have made a trophy out of their skull.
Then as time goes by, not a long time one could guess until the media jumps on it.
The Running Man?
No different than now. Imagine being wrongfully accused of rape or child molestation and thrown into jail to await trial. I think the island would be preferable to tiny institution where you are kept defenseless.
As for the patrols, escape is inevitable no matter what the situation. Criminals occasionally escape from prison now. At least on an island we would have a major layer of insulation before they reached the public again.
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Here is the only problem I see. I don't believe that drug offenses, petty theft, statuatory anything, tax evasion, and many other things are actually "criminal." We would have to reserve the island for "real" criminals with "real" victims. Violence would be a clear indication. A dead body, missing body with forensics, or a live victim to testify against them in court should be the line in my opinion. Here in the US we over use our prison system dramatically, and it is sad and expensive.
Originally posted by Dr Cosma
reply to post by getreadyalready
Well I think the big difference is the axe situation.
The inmates in prison dont get given an axe to hack each other.
Originally posted by Dr Cosma
reply to post by getreadyalready
Well I think the big difference is the axe situation.
The inmates in prison dont get given an axe to hack each other.
also the terrorists, no?
But to the Government in future years to come anyone who opposes them will be a terrorist. In some places you cannot even protest.