reply to post by Jakes51
Is the the government priming people for a nuke attack on the United States?
McGraw-Hill and Scholastic are busy reprinting the periodic table.
This has got to be the most ludicrous articles I have ever seen. Almost as comical as the old "Duck and Cover," video from the Cold War. If
anyone happens to be in a city where one of these monsters is detonated, they are screwed.
The chances of surviving a nuclear strike are actually quite good. Nuclear weapons fall into two ranges - kiloton and megaton. Generally speaking,
kilotons are tactical-yields and intended to be used at low altitudes for destruction of military and specific strategic resources. While intense -
their area of effect is quite small - usually no more than about a mile radius. There is substantial overpressure and fallout. People in high-rises
will be worse off than those at street level or below - but the biggest threat is radioactive fallout.
Megaton nuclear weapons are strategic in nature - designed to damage cities and civilian populations. They are detonated at high altitude to create a
massive overpressure wave that does most of the destructive work. People on the street would be in danger of being flash-burned - but how severe (and
whether or not it is instantly lethal) would depend highly upon the yield and altitude. Damage to infrastructure is likely to be quite high - and
most initial casualties will be from damage to infrastructure. Again - those left alive are then immediately threatened by radioactive fallout.
Terrorists - even if they have a megaton-yield bomb, are more than likely going to do a ground-level detonation. About the worst case scenario is if
they get a suitcase nuke (kiloton yield) and get it up a few thousand feet using a private airplane. Neither is very destructive in the scale of
What makes radioactive fallout so lethal is its proximity (inverse square law) - the dust will accumulate on your skin, in your clothing, and even be
absorbed into your body through your lungs and mouth. With relatively short-half-lives of a few days, these isotopes are putting off massive amounts
of radiation. Limiting exposure to the dust and removing it once you have found refuge, is essential.
It is also chemically lethal or otherwise troublesome. Cesium is chemically similar to potassium and will replace it in many plants. Both potassium
and Cesium are radioactive - but the fallout variety of Cesium is -very- radioactive. Be leery of eating fruits and vegetables from a
fallout-contaminated area in the years following a nuclear strike (presuming this is a really big deal and society collapses and there is no one to
come around and clean up after this). Background radiation will be very within acceptable levels - but eating the coconuts at bikini island will make
you sick and kill you. Other stuff in the fallout, such as unspent plutonium, is very toxic and generally bad for your health.
Fallout is the issue. If you have to go out-doors to re-locate, and can - wet your clothing in dish detergent (or just wet it) and place a moist
cloth over your face (if you have a CBR mask, that's preferred, or a mask capable of filtering very fine dust particles used in the industry will
work). Move fast, then remove your clothing and be sure to rinse and remove any dust. Finding uncontaminated clothing is preferable than attempting
to wash and re-use the clothing you just used - so keep that in mind before making the decision to relocate amidst fallout.
Place anything you want to take with you in bags that are as air-tight as possible - if you are using a larger bag (like a duffel bag or something) -
wetting it in the same fashion as your clothing is also advised.
"Why am I wetting myself?"
Because you're in a hell-on-earth.
More seriously -
Wetting the clothing is done so that any dust that contacts your person is 'clumped' to the garment. When you reach your destination (whether it
was to go outside and return to this place, or to move to another), you do not want to be flagging that dust all over an otherwise clean environment.
You simply remove your clothing and place it in the corner (or outside - the main thing is that you can place distance between it and yourself, and
that whatever dust is on it, stays there, and doesn't contaminate the rest of your environment).
Obviously - the risks in moving should be carefully weighed. In either case - if you do have to move, it is important that you do everything you can
to keep from spreading fallout all over your new environment while removing any that has accumulated on you. You should also keep in mind that many
sources of water could be contaminated. Don't drink water that appears to be contaminated, and preferably only drink from sealed containers.
If the event is isolated - you can expect Guard and other EMS to respond within hours. This should, generally, make moving from any safe location
quite foolish. However, the above is given in the event moving does become necessary due to needs (water, most critically), or imminent danger, or
some other reason your current location is unsustainable.
Perhaps, to save ourselves we can put duct-tape on windows (haha!) or run to the nearest church and pray? This is something to be aware of, but
there is not much that can be done. Either you are lucky or not.
The lucky ones died instantly or within the first thirty seconds and don't need to worry about surviving.
If you are one of the unlucky ones, you are not out of the woods, yet, just because you didn't burst into flames or get smashed inside of a
Putting duct-tape on the windows is, perhaps, a little extreme. You would certainly want to close the windows. However, asphyxiating yourself is a
danger when you start trying to make your own little house in a bubble. The main thing is to place a distant barrier between you and the radioactive
fallout. Putting a few extra feet between you and where it is piling up is about as good as an extra inch of concrete.
Why is the government kicking around this old dog? We all know how devastating a nuclear bomb is when it was detonated over Hiroshima and
Nagasaki, and in tons of videos from the Cold War era.
Because the time to give out instructions on how to respond to something is ASAP... not when it's happening and people are crapping themselves.
Just some more paranoia and fear mongering. Put it in the trash can with the rest of it. It is really getting tiresome, and we have more than
enough on our plates to keep us busy with fear. It is simple, if one goes off; be somewhere else.
People are interesting animals. I sit down in a room and I tell you: "Alright... we all know that every business day, we have a chance to run out
of toner in the copy machine. If this should happen to you... here's the plan."
Then I'm called a fear-monger for scaring people into thinking the copy machine is going to run out of toner at any minute, trying to incite
Change the scenario: "Hey, if one of those nuclear weapons goes off... and you're still alive to worry about it... here's what you do."
Yes, that's the plan, to panic. I want you to panic and get yourself killed. That's exactly why you're being given some advice on how to respond
to a situation.
Additionally - nuclear weapons have been exploded in the minds of the public. They are hardly as terrifying of a firecracker as they appear. Your
more average 50-kiloton device is only going to be a problem if you are within about a mile of ground zero. Even if you get up into 200 kilotons,
you're still pretty safe if you're outside of about two miles. It'll be unlike anything you've ever experienced, but the ceiling isn't likely to
come down on your head.
Now - if one of the same size were set of in this town... yeah - it'd pretty much take the whole place out. But Kansas City - St. Louis (more likely
targets) - it'd take something like Russia's insane Tsar Bomba to take it out in one go. Though a more economical use of one-megaton yields in a
geometric pattern from a MIRV would create problems.
We're unlikely to see that from terrorists, however.