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Julian Assange Has The Smoking Gun UFO Documents?

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posted on Dec, 17 2010 @ 08:18 AM
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Originally posted by Katie
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Assange/terrorist

They traced his money going to the Middle East.

Many people do not understand the tactics these people will use to recruit. There are many stupid gullible people around.




That is an interesting claim that I have not seen before. Can you direct us to this money trail?




posted on Dec, 17 2010 @ 08:37 AM
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I don't believe we will ever truly have the real information on UFOs leaked. Most of that stuff is so compartmentalized and at such a high clearance level that it would be nearly impossible to leak such information without them know directly who did so. So this would be an incredibly high risk for the whistle-blower, and most likely would result in their imprisonment or assassination.

The Government also psychologically vets all individuals with such clearances/access to such information. They monitor every phone call, their every purchase, and every single thing they do on a computer. They are tracked constantly and they're essentially an open book to the Government. If they were planning to leak such information they would have to be masters at keeping it silent until they did so, and even then their actions or deviation from the norm would set off alarms. Most likely their handlers would know they were going to try to leak information before even they would know.

The biggest reason this will never happen is because they DO NOT store such documents in a digital format anywhere on a server, even on their Top Secret network. It has been a while, but at the time, they were actually physical documents stored in a vault, where every page is accounted for and they have embedded ultra-small, essentially invisible chips on every sheet so that unless you know exactly where on the page it was you would not be able to remove it. This would set off alarms and the system would detect the absence of the document through periodic document audits (essentially doing a scan of the room to ask the pages "are you there?" and the pages answering back that hey are.) If one is missing it sends an alert. The scans happen at random, very small time intervals. The chips also have a digital signature algorithm that makes it impossible to impersonate or replicate.

The rooms are designed as vaults, with thick metal walls with copper sheeting on them. Equipped with HALON fire suppression systems in addition to a type of expanding foam that could be activated that would fill the room up making all the file cabinets inside inaccessible as no one could get in (or out), in the remote chance there was a breach. They have cipher locks as well as key locks on the doors and every cabinet inside is also locked with cipher and key locks. To even enter one of these rooms you need to identify yourself with one's CAC/PIV Card and an associated pin plus a biometric scan. An individual guards these vaults and also provides verification and requires a physical signature to sign-in and sign-out of the vault, on a special type of paper that is extremely tough to destroy or erase anything from utilizing a pen with uniquely formulated ink. Then and only then can you enter the vault. No electronic/digital or storage devices are allowed. Coats are also not allowed and typically pockets are asked to be emptied, although in most secure facilities, once you get deep enough into a building to be at the vault, you are already pretty sanitized.

The only way they truly communicate this top secret information quickly is over NSA encrypted telephone systems. You have to actually contact an NSA coordination liaison to setup the usage of the phone. They do something on their end and will then call the encrypted phone on your end and the individual on the other end. The session is monitored in real time and encrypted at an incredibly high rate. This tends to be the most convenient way to get "eyes" on the documents, by having someone at the remote facility/site actually convey what is in it over the phone. More often though they are used to have meetings. These phones on both ends are located in "vault rooms" as well that are shielded and sound proof.

If a document is indeed needed to transfer it is carried in a special "vault" suitcase and the individual escorting it also has 1 or 2 other escorts on them at all times. These specialized vault suitcases are specially locked with a key and digital cipher token, and have a device built into them that will effectively incinerate/destroy any documents if need be, in case there is indeed a compromise. Originals are rarely transferred, and copies are destroyed after they are viewed at the other end through a shredding devices that reduces the pages to dust. The dust-waste is then incinerated. But most of the time people physically travel to see such documents. To prove the authenticity of the "copy" there is indeed a "chip" on them with an encrypted digital signature, as well as the signatures of those who processed the copy which notarizes it. They utilize specially designed devices to validate the document.

it has been many years, but I recall that they were working on an ink that would only be readable under an extremely fine tuned laser/light device. It would also make it nearly impossible to photograph due to limitations on the film and digital sensors in cameras, a photo of a paper utilizing this system would produce a blank page. So it is possible that if they did transition to such a system that all documents may have been updated so they could only be read by these specialized devices on this special paper printed with this special ink all chipped, cataloged and tracked.

Of course, it has been many years, and it is possible that they may now have the documents all digitized in a "vault" computer, most likely secured in one of these rooms and off any sort of network. Back then it was always stated that "a networked computer was an insecure computer," regardless of the precautions. They may even have documents physically transferred on a vault/encrypted memory stick only to be read on another secure off-network system in another vault somewhere instead of a briefcase with a physical copy. I can't verify any of that though, but the times do change. Although I would think physical documents would have better long-term storage, and be accessible easier in all situations, not to mention not needing backups like a computer would, which could compromise security.

That is, in a nutshell, how some of the most secret documents are kept. There are most likely still no virtual storage mechanisms for the ultra top secret of documents and those who can view/access them are so limited due to compartmentalization that it would be impossible to leak without being caught. The only weakness in this entire process is the memory of a human, who may willingly tell what they have read or experienced. But that is where the monitoring aspect comes in that ensures these individuals never divulge that information. People in these positions give up their rights for such access and are told that they can be held for a minimum of 18months without anyone being notified, even longer nowadays due to the patriot act/homeland security policies. All without any trial or representation. This doesn't even count the hardship that they can put their loved ones through. It is essentially a "thug" enforcement system to ensure cleared individuals keep straight.

So the most WikiLeaks will most likely EVER get is a sworn testimony, and even then it will most likely contain information that the government may not think anyone will believe or if it is good enough it will be sanitized quickly and that individual dealt with. Assange also would not post anything given to him via hearsay/testimony due to their policy of wanting a real document/material that isn't self manufactured. Assange wants the "real proof/goods" as much as we all do. There would have to be a VAST conspiracy within the system at ALL levels in order to leak even 1 page. It just won't happen..
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posted on Dec, 17 2010 @ 09:23 AM
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Um.. except the smear campaign the government is running against Assange is actually working and a lot (I would even say the majority) are against Wikileaks.



posted on Dec, 17 2010 @ 09:33 AM
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Don't the documents that get to wikileaks are anonymous? So that means it could be whistleblowers from our government and CIA.



posted on Dec, 17 2010 @ 10:11 AM
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Originally posted by Katie
Assange/terrorist

They traced his money going to the Middle East.

Many people do not understand the tactics these people will use to recruit. There are many stupid gullible people around.


Do you have a source for this? Where in the Middle East? Frankly, the only country I've seen where a public official has expressed a positive reaction over the content of the leaks is Israel.

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posted on Dec, 18 2010 @ 05:53 PM
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UFO = Unidentified Flying Object..... Means it's unidentified, not extraterrestrial. Unless they have definitive photos, autopsy reports, blueprints of a craft or something of the like it'll be meaningless.



posted on Mar, 22 2012 @ 12:00 AM
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Sorry about resurrecting this thread, but your post contained some very intriguing information. I'm not sure if this is second hand testimony, as that was not specified, but if you know of certain facilities that utilize these ultra-secure vaults and feel safe in relaying such information I would be all ears.




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