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Originally posted by oozyism
What do you base your assumption on? Don't tell me TV, and you can claim you don't have a TV all you want, it seems your ideas revolve around US propaganda, which is usually broad casted on TV.
Lol - I really don't have a TV. Not quite sure what's so hard to understand about that. And for your info, i read a lot of opposing sources. I was basing my assumption on word of mouth from a friend who has served in Afghan and told me that sometimes the bodies of dead Jihadists sometimes have UK football team tattoo's or they have intercepted Jihadist radio calls from people who have Bradford accents and such.
Based on what evidence? When did they get sentenced to death for causing trouble? When was the trial held? Who was their lawyers? Who was the prosecutor?
Do you think they were over there to build schools? Or maybe dig wells?
Yeah, mark my words, I won't feel pity when your government turns on you, and shoots you execution style (by labeling you al-Qaeda, without any trial, without any evidence of any wrong doings, without any conviction.
I don't want your pity. I wouldn't follow Islam. It's probably the LEAST likely religion i would follow if I wasn't an atheist.
Make a thread about Taliban giving death sentences without any fair trial, then I will come and discuss the issue with you.
Why? It's on topic, it's contextually related to YOUR arguement.
Originally posted by mr-lizard
Lol - I really don't have a TV. Not quite sure what's so hard to understand about that. And for your info, i read a lot of opposing sources. I was basing my assumption on word of mouth from a friend who has served in Afghan and told me that sometimes the bodies of dead Jihadists sometimes have UK football team tattoo's or they have intercepted Jihadist radio calls from people who have Bradford accents and such.
Do you think they were over there to build schools? Or maybe dig wells?
I don't want your pity. I wouldn't follow Islam. It's probably the LEAST likely religion i would follow if I wasn't an atheist.
Why? It's on topic, it's contextually related to YOUR arguement.
Originally posted by oozyism
Because everything you say sounds like MSM to me
Anyways, if the only evidence you have is your friend, than good luck in convincing people lol.. How about this, I have friends and family in both Afghanistan and Pakistan, they give me a whole different story.
Based on what evidence? When did they get sentenced to death for causing trouble? When was the trial held? Who was their lawyers? Who was the prosecutor?
Sorry mate, I bet you would want my petty once your son is kill in the same manner without any evidence of wrong doing, without any trial, without any conviction etc etc..
It is not, this is about two Brits being murdered by US drones. You look like a coward not standing up to America.
Originally posted by oozyism
Ofcourse, just Slap Al-Qaeda to anyone being assassinated and it is all good.
What do we know about these two men?
Another scenario is, that they could've been Journalists trying to find out what is going on in the area, because the only report we get is from US and its proxies.
Journalists have been killed and tortured by US before.
This wouldn't be the first time.
Imagine this, "Al-Qaeda" being slapped across your sons face and then shot execution style, without any trial, without any proof of criminal activity blablablabla..
This is disgusting, no world population is safe from US terror.
While Americans are staying silence while their citizens are being given death sentence without any justification, for example Al-Awlaki.
At least Britain is slowly waking up and fighting back.
What are your thoughts on this?
Can America kill who ever it pleases without any justification and get away with it by slapping Al-Qaeda in their face?
oz
[url=http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1339036/Two-white-Britons-killed-fighting-Al-Qaeda-U-S-drone-attack-Pakistan.html]www.dailymail.co.uk[/ur l]
(visit the link for the full news article)
Originally posted by felonius
reply to post by oozyism
Wrong Ooz.
If it were a family member, I'd be saying what a dumb butt they were for putting themselves in a screwed up position.
If they had been jihadis, they would have been dis-owned and left for the wolves.
Good god ooz. You should know me better than that by now.
Ya know ooz. For some weird reason I'm starting to like you. Your kinda fun.
oh hell. my first muzzie friend.
Originally posted by Resurrectio
reply to post by oozyism
Come on Oozy.. I see it as a "good shot".. Don't be so filled with hate. These men, or the people they were with, became a "person of interest". Some private didn't cover both his eyes with one hand, play enie menie miny moe, then press the launch button.
At least you can be assured of one thing.. Our boys thought, either those guys were a threat, or the people around them were. Muslim extremists have made it clear, that ALL Americans (and those that support America), including women and children, are fair game!
These men were either in the wrong place at the wrong time or deserved the well guided missile that reached out and touched them.
Originally posted by mr-lizard
Originally posted by oozyism
Because everything you say sounds like MSM to me
Really? I doubt that kiddo.
First hand evidence not good enough eh?
www.telegraph.co.uk...
Then again, when presented with REAL evidence, you'll probably just repeat the MSM arguement, so I guess when faced against your tirade, there's no winning eh Ooz?
I can't honestly say. Neither can you. Again since you're repeating yourself, may I?
How many butchered women or children were held to a fair trial in Afghanistan when confronted with the Taliban?
Unfortunately for you mate, I live in the UK. It might not be perfect, but i'd much rather live here than some backward nation like Afghanistan.
Huh? Why should I stand up to America? What?
We're at war with the Islamic Jihadists and terrorist in Afghan. Not America. Not quite sure how you find this concept difficult to grasp really.edit on 16-12-2010 by mr-lizard because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by NoJoker13
Originally posted by oozyism
Originally posted by deltaboy
reply to post by Dimitri Dzengalshlevi
Doesn't matter how you explain the geopolitical mumbo jumbo. All of them are related to fighting against Islamists for decades. Let me ask you this, why has Russia not won the war even in their own soil? They bomb the crap out of the Chechens and still have not contained the attacks on Russia for example trains, planes, schools even theaters. All those attacks would have been enough to go to war against Islamic terrorists, but it seems the Russians are giving up.
The problem would be solved if violence was set a side and instead new approaches, human approaches was taken place.
There is two side to the story.
1. Russia wants its territories.
2. The resistance fighters don't want to be part of Russian territories.
It isn't that hard, once you know the problem, you can find a solution.
But if you just confuse yourself intentionally through ignorance, then that is your problem.
I enjoyed this post where you talk about the "human" approach, quite a contrast from what you were spitting a few pages ago stating that you think it is the worlds content to see the USA bombed... Where was your human approach then?
mr-lizard
Two dead Jihadists, traitors too.
I never said "it is the world's content to see the USA bombed" or anything of the sort, in anywhere on ATS. I think you are either mistaken or a liar.