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Austria: Judge Rules That Yodeling Offends Muslims

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posted on Dec, 25 2010 @ 05:04 AM
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Originally posted by Annee

Originally posted by Voyce
Didn't read all the posts so sorry if this had been said
BUT
I'm pretty sure the judge favored them because america had been attacked
he didn't want to be next
The end.


You should read more of the thread.

The truth will be revealed.



23 pages is a bit much sorry XD but i dont think this is as important its just a matter of how the judge feels because hes the one who appointed the apparent decision so until he posts on here i dont think any of us will be right but like i always say
im not wrong
your not wrong
its just my opinion
edit on 25-12-2010 by Voyce because: Correction of amount of pages



posted on Dec, 25 2010 @ 08:20 AM
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Originally posted by Voyce

so until he posts on here i dont think any of us will be right but like i always say
im not wrong
your not wrong
its just my opinion
edit on 25-12-2010 by Voyce because: Correction of amount of pages


Except in this case: There was no Judge. There was no Ruling.
Sorry Voyce: You *ARE* wrong in your speculation about the motives of people who don't exist doing things that they did not.



posted on Dec, 25 2010 @ 12:17 PM
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Originally posted by Voyce

Originally posted by Annee

Originally posted by Voyce
Didn't read all the posts so sorry if this had been said
BUT
I'm pretty sure the judge favored them because america had been attacked
he didn't want to be next
The end.


You should read more of the thread.

The truth will be revealed.



23 pages is a bit much sorry XD but i dont think this is as important its just a matter of how the judge feels because hes the one who appointed the apparent decision so until he posts on here i dont think any of us will be right but like i always say
im not wrong
your not wrong
its just my opinion


So - you want/choose to believe what you want/choose to believe - - and ignore the real facts and truth.

That's what your opinion is based on.



posted on Dec, 25 2010 @ 02:26 PM
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No sirr
but what do the facts say then? (honestly asking lol)

and since i am wrong
thats good
i shall learn from this

Thank you!



posted on Dec, 26 2010 @ 05:24 AM
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My nieghbours dog is always barking, it offends my dreams, should i sue?



posted on Dec, 26 2010 @ 06:10 PM
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Originally posted by Annee

Originally posted by centurion1211

Originally posted by Annee

I except Muslims because this is their world too. They will have to except me - - because they have no choice.



Probably you meant to say "accept" instead of "except" ...

But you actually believe that muslims have no choice but to "accept" you?



Of course I meant to say/type "accept". It was 1:30 in the morning - - I was tired.

Muslim is a proper name. Did you mean to capitalize it? Is that a mistake or an intentional demeaning put down?

People are People - - Muslim's are People. I already answered this.

Al-Qaeda is a political movement.
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Way to sidestep my main points.


Muhammad Ali (get it?) would be so very proud of you.

P.S. Everyone (but possibly you) understands that if AQ is a "political movement" (?), it is a political movement based solely on the muslim religion. AQ's membership is rather exclusive.
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posted on Dec, 26 2010 @ 07:16 PM
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How many times do we have to go through this?

Yes, there was a judges ruling.

You can't fine someone without a Judges approval.

This was a travesty of Justice, and people are starting to speak out.



posted on Dec, 26 2010 @ 08:04 PM
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Originally posted by centurion1211

Originally posted by Annee

Muslim is a proper name. Did you mean to capitalize it? Is that a mistake or an intentional demeaning put down?

People are People - - Muslim's are People. I already answered this in a previous post


Al-Qaeda is a political movement.

Way to sidestep my main points.


Muhammad Ali (get it?) would be so very proud of you.

P.S. Everyone (but possibly you) understands that if AQ is a "political movement" (?), it is a political movement based solely on the muslim religion. AQ's membership is rather exclusive.


I answered your question/point in a previous post. I have no need to reinforce my viewpoint through repetition.

Are you going to continue not capitalizing Muslim which is a proper name?

The fact you don't want to accept my answer - - and want to continue making this something that it is not.

Is your issue. Not mine.
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posted on Dec, 26 2010 @ 08:59 PM
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Originally posted by Annee

Originally posted by centurion1211

Originally posted by Annee

Muslim is a proper name. Did you mean to capitalize it? Is that a mistake or an intentional demeaning put down?

People are People - - Muslim's are People. I already answered this in a previous post


Al-Qaeda is a political movement.

Way to sidestep my main points.


Muhammad Ali (get it?) would be so very proud of you.

P.S. Everyone (but possibly you) understands that if AQ is a "political movement" (?), it is a political movement based solely on the muslim religion. AQ's membership is rather exclusive.


I answered your question/point in a previous post. I have no need to reinforce my viewpoint through repetition.

Are you going to continue not capitalizing Muslim which is a proper name?

The fact you don't want to accept my answer - - and want to continue making this something that it is not.

Is your issue. Not mine.
edit on 26-12-2010 by Annee because: (no reason given)


Worrying about captialization is purely a deflection attempt.

So,
muslim, muslim, muslim


And no, I don't recall you answering my questions - since you typically ignore the ones you can't answer without exposing your naivity and/or hypocrisy on this issue.



posted on Dec, 27 2010 @ 06:36 AM
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Originally posted by poet1b
reply to post by debunky
 


How many times do we have to go through this?

Yes, there was a judges ruling.

You can't fine someone without a Judges approval.

This was a travesty of Justice, and people are starting to speak out.



He wasn't fined
The procedure is called "Diversion" and there is no judge involved.
DA would have to go to a judge, would likely win, and asks the defendant if he really, really wants to.
Defendant said "nah"

Trust me that I know the laws in my country i have been living for 35 years a little better than you do.



posted on Dec, 27 2010 @ 07:13 AM
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so,

heheheh, old boy smudged the muslims with yodeling.

cool.


paid the fine. let's see if he really stops.



posted on Dec, 28 2010 @ 06:51 AM
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Originally posted by Annee

I except Muslims because this is their world too. They will have to except me - - because they have no choice.



Really?

I see many examples around the world where Muslims have chosen not to accept non-Muslims.

Rather they have chosen to murder and persecute them.

Bear in mind, that the following reports of Muslim intolerance date from only the last 12 months!


India: Alleging blasphemy, fanatics hack lecturer's hand off

timesofindia.indiatimes.com...

Pakistan: Christian woman sentenced to death 'for blasphemy'

www.telegraph.co.uk...

Iran: Pastor to Hang for Apostasy

www.worthynews.com...

Indonesia: American on Trial for Insulting Islam

www.thejakartaglobe.com...

Iran: Christians jailed for three months over evangelizing activities

www.asianews.it...:-Christians-jailed-for-three-months-over-evangelizing-activities-20290.html

Morocco: Continues to Purge Nation of Foreign Christians

www.compassdirect.org...

Pakistan: Muslims Beat and Severely Burn Christian for Evangelising- to Christians

undhimmi.com...

Pakistan: Islamists slaughtering teachers who teach children of both sexes in violation of Sharia

www.asianews.it...:-Islamists-slaughtering-teachers-20247.html

Egypt: Attacks on Christians Intensify

www.wnd.com...

Holland: Orthodox Jews should leave Holland because of anti-semitism: Bolkestein (ex-EU commissioner)

www.dutchnews.nl...

Sweden: Jews leave Swedish city after sharp rise in anti-Semitic hate crimes

www.telegraph.co.uk...

Sweden: Wiesenthal Center Warns Jews not to travel to Sweden

www.jpost.com...

Iraq: Christians Fleeing ‘in Their Thousands’

undhimmi.com...

Indonesia: Christians victims of Islamic extremism appeal to President Susilo for protection

www.asianews.it...:-Christians-victims-of-Islamic-extremism-appeal-to-President-Susilo-for-protection-20251.html

Algeria: Christians to appeal conviction for worshipping

au.christiantoday.com...

Sudan: Sharia law punishes women with '600,000' lashes a year

www.adnkronos.com...

Sudan: Christian leader narrowly escapes Muslim assassination attempt

www.speroforum.com...< br />

Jordan: Islamists Criticize "Propagation of Buddhism"

en.ammonnews.net...

Australia: Muslim cleric calls for beheading of Dutch politician

in.reuters.com...

Turkey: Protestants complain of state discrimination

www.hurriyetdailynews.com...

Morocco: Convert Serving 15 Years for His Faith

continentalnews.net...

Algeria: Christians tried for breaking Ramadan fast

www.abc.net.au...

Ethiopian Christian Stabbed For Leaving Islam

www.worthynews.com...

Kuwait: Seeks Interpol Arrest for Insulting Prophet's Wife...

www.alarabiya.net...

Syria: Eight Churches Shut Down

www.worthynews.com...

Indonesia: Women caned for selling food during Ramadan

www.mysinchew.com...

Pakistan: blasphemy laws used to justify 'murder' - EU parliament

www.google.com...

Thailand: Teacher shot dead by Muslim militants -134 teachers murdered since 2004

www.thaiphotoblogs.com...



Muslims accepting non-Muslims?

There isn't much evidence of it around the world in the last 12 months.


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posted on Dec, 28 2010 @ 09:10 AM
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I have no interest in your fear mongering. If you want to count bodies - - American bombs dropped on the Muslim dominated countries have killed far more innocent people then the small scattered skirmishes. And that includes 911.

If you fill a glass with water and keep filling it - - it is going to exceed its boundaries. The days of confining people by imaginary boundaries is ancient history.

Progression is a part of life - - and life will continue to progress.

Transitions are always difficult and there will be conflicts - - but in the end we are all just people and will adjust.

Logic dictates there is only so much room on this planet. We have to share it. I do not consider myself better or more privileged because of where my feet touched the ground when I was born. Or what belief I was born in to.

Carl Sagan's "Pale Blue Dot" - - always puts things in perspective for me.

www.youtube.com...



posted on Dec, 28 2010 @ 02:07 PM
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Originally posted by Annee
I have no interest in your fear mongering.


If my examples of Muslim murder, intolerance & persecution of non Muslims around the world in India, Pakistan, Iran, Indonesia, Morocco, Egypt, Holland, Sweden, Iraq, Jordan, Sudan, Turkey, Algeria, Ethiopia, Kuwait, Syria & Thailand appear to have made no impact on you, how about surveys of what Muslims believe?



Is there a conflict being a devout Muslim and living in a Western society?

54% of British Muslims feels that there is while 35% see no conflict.

How do British Muslims see westerners?

67% describe Westerns as selfish, 64% as arrogant and 52% as violent.

Worryingly, 12% of British Muslims claim that many or most British Muslims support Al Qaeda.

pewglobal.org...


So, while you feel there is no cause for concern, 54% of British Muslims see a conflict being a Muslim and living in the West. Only 35% don't.

The majority British Muslims also see Westerners as selfish, arrogant & violent.

British Muslims appear to see a problem with being a Muslim and living in the West even if the problem, as Muslims perceive it, has passed you by.


Who do British Muslims feel is to blame for the Danish Cartoon controversy?



73% of British Muslims feel that the cause for the controversy is Western disrespect (9% feel it is Muslim intolerance).

pewglobal.org...


Not much Muslim tolerance of Western ethics on display surely?


What do British Muslim students believe?



Survey on what British Muslim students believe

40% want Sharia law introduced into British Law for Muslims.

33% want the introduction of a worldwide Caliph, while 25% are opposed. 41% are not sure.

59% felt it was important that women wear the hijab but only 31% felt a women should be forced to wear one.

40% felt than men and women should not be allowed to associate freely together, while 12% were not sure.

32% felt it could be justifiable to kill in the name of religion.

57% fell that Muslims serving on the UK armed forces should have the right to opt out if the British army is fighting in a Muslim country.

16% felt the punishment that Gillian Gibbons received (the British teacher in Sudan who was sent to prison for 15 days after naming a teddy-bear ‘Mohammed’) was just right or not harsh enough. 19% were not sure.

today.yougov.co.uk...


So 57% of British Muslim students feel that any Muslim in the British army fighting a Muslim country should get an opt out. 32% feel killing in the name of Islam is ok. 40% feel that men and women should not be allowed to associate freely.

54% of British Muslims see a conflict being a Muslim and living in the West.

Do you still see no problem?


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posted on Dec, 28 2010 @ 02:34 PM
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So you think the solution to percieved arrogance and conflict is to be arrogant and confrontational? So that the facts match more with the perception?



posted on Dec, 28 2010 @ 02:47 PM
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I was thinking about posting statistics of:

How many black churches were bombed in America.
How many Jewish temples have been bombed or desecrated.
Listing some of the terrorism of the KKK
How many senseless acts of violence by Fear of Prejudice and Ignorance in America.
The List could go on.

But when someone comes from the position of "It's all about ME and Protecting My Back Porch" - - - there really is no point.

Some people will progress into the new world - - some won't.



posted on Dec, 28 2010 @ 05:12 PM
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nonsense, there is bags of room, and some of us have a spine, have a good one



posted on Dec, 28 2010 @ 05:13 PM
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Originally posted by Annee
I was thinking about posting statistics of:

How many black churches were bombed in America.
How many Jewish temples have been bombed or desecrated.
Listing some of the terrorism of the KKK
How many senseless acts of violence by Fear of Prejudice and Ignorance in America.
The List could go on.

But when someone comes from the position of "It's all about ME and Protecting My Back Porch" - - - there really is no point.

Some people will progress into the new world - - some won't.



why pick on whites- how many whites have been raped and murdered by blacks?



posted on Dec, 28 2010 @ 05:42 PM
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Originally posted by debunky

So you think the solution to percieved arrogance and conflict is to be arrogant and confrontational? So that the facts match more with the perception?


Yet you have supplied no facts.

You appear to merely be troubled by the fact that I have reported numerous documented examples of Muslims persecuting non Muslims around the world.

Why is that?

Are you suggesting that the reporting of henious crimes by Islamic extremists will drive moderate Muslims into the arms of radical Islam?

Seriously?



Do you object to me reporting that at least 30 US Muslim terror attacks have been foiled since 9/11?

30 Terrorist Plots Against the U.S. Foiled Since 9/11

Here is a detailed list:

creepingsharia.wordpress.com...

Will that just encourage moderate Muslims to try to blow up US targets?

Do you object to me reporting that some British Muslims planned to blow up Big Ben and Westminster Cathedral?

Christmas bomb plot: nine men remanded over plan to 'blow up Big Ben and Westminster Abbey'

www.telegraph.co.uk... Abbey.html

Am I merely driving moderate Muslims to blow up other British landmarks, perhaps stonehenge or the British parliament?

Will it upset you to read that Khaled Abu-Toameh, an eminent Israeli Arab writer and journalist, has stated:


“Christians in Arab countries are no longer being persecuted; they are now being slaughtered and driven out of their homes and lands."

Khaled Abu-Toameh

www.familysecuritymatters.org...


By reporting his words, am I only encouraging Muslims to "slaughter" more Christians in Arab countries?




You appear to have a very low opinion of moderate Muslims around the world.
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posted on Dec, 28 2010 @ 05:46 PM
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Originally posted by blueorder
reply to post by Annee
 




nonsense, there is bags of room, and some of us have a spine, have a good one


Yeah - of course - that's all that matters




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