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Austria: Judge Rules That Yodeling Offends Muslims

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posted on Dec, 16 2010 @ 01:05 PM
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Its not so much muslims that are to blame for this but the leftist/"liberal" mindset.
No it isn't. The mindset that's to blame for this kind of thing is that which cannot or will not view complex human interactions, ie politics, in any other terms than "I like it so its right, or I dont like it so its the other extreme", otherwise known as "the inability/unwillingness to grapple with concepts without 1st prejudging them", or, for short, "idiocy".
Its the mindset that thus allows singing in one's garden to be equated with a punch in the face; or socialism with communism; simple foolishness with deliberate wankerishness; spirituality with religion... I could go on, but idiots couldn't understand, no matter how many examples I mentioned, & those who are willing to understand would have most likely got it without any examples. Its the undecided I'm posting for, I suppose.

Where are you in the nebulous cloud of positions people could take on the subject of the false dichotomy of left vs right thinking? Or are you determined to place yourself somewhere on that ficticious line between demonstrably false extremes for the sake of... what exactly? Laziness that cant be bothered to try to think better? Fear of having to reevaluate a lot of your beliefs every time a new idea pops up? Simple stupidity?
Hey, your willingness to propound ignorance is nobody else's fault. Consider it denied.




posted on Dec, 16 2010 @ 01:20 PM
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Originally posted by ModernAcademia
haha, I just had to respond to this thread
This is a joke, this world is a joke
What a Dumb PC World.

However we should all hate the Judge more than muslims in my opinion

Though I agree with everyone completely that said who cares what they think
I have yet to see anyone comment on the idiodicy of the judge
Nobody even spoke about him yet

Isn't there something wrong with that?

Are we really focusing on the issues here or are we just part of the system of divide and conquer?
Dislike the muslims a little for this, fine
But not ONE mention of the judge yet???????????


Come on guys


I say dislike those particular idiot muslims who called the cops, not the rest of the congregation or all muslims in general.

Great point about the judge being a complete idiot! And what about the cops? They should have dismissed this as a nuisance call, and reported it as such, instead of taking it seriously.

If everyone had to cater to everyone else's pet peeves, or silly-assed religion, there not be anyone doing anything such as singing, raising pigs, or making beer, etc.



posted on Dec, 16 2010 @ 01:22 PM
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Oh BTW, all the people who keep talking about racism and calling people racist towards Muslims, Islam is a religion. Muslims are people of Islam. Same as a Christian is to Christianity.. People from every race are Muslims. Same with Christianity.

I seen race pop up through the topic a few times and i thought i would clarify.



posted on Dec, 16 2010 @ 01:29 PM
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There never was a decision by a judge. As some pointed out already, this just was an exaggeration of the sunshine press, namely Kronenzeitung.

The police was called, because that guy regularly disturbed the prayers. Since this was an "Offizialdelikt" the police had to proceed the case. He simply had to pay an administrative fine.

Transported to the world, it became an Islamist incident, but luckily did not cause any war yet.

The link was provided earlier in this thread, but maybe the google translation makes it a little more comfortable:
What was wrong with that story?



posted on Dec, 16 2010 @ 01:33 PM
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I agree with most of the comments i've read. Even though I have nothing personal against muslims or any religion, yet anybody who wants to hate or look at others differently for their religion or anything else has a problem. That's the problem with religion, it divides everyone even more and many people take offense to it. Although I think everyone agree's this "Muslim" thing is becoming a bigger problem. When I read this, it reminded me of muslims getting offended about christmas, then about the mosque, then this. I also remember one saying "We expect one day to raise the muslim flag over the white house", and im just thinking "wtf." Since when do they get to come in our countries and tell us what we can and can't do because it may offend them, but if we did that in theirs our heads would be off, or we would get stoned. I have respect for most, but not unless it's given to us.
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posted on Dec, 16 2010 @ 01:34 PM
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Originally posted by SaturnFX
I wonder why the guy paid the fine then...


It wasn't a fine. They settled out of court.



posted on Dec, 16 2010 @ 01:41 PM
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Originally posted by Annee


I can honestly say - - I would not want some guy yodeling and mowing the lawn next door.

However - - since I am Atheist - - I wouldn't make it about religion. I'd go for the noise ordinance.

Actually - - I am 100% against ANY and ALL religions affecting government and laws.

So - - if some guy was mowing his lawn and singing Christian Hymns - - I'd be just as annoyed.


A noisy neighbor is a minor irritant. An intolerant neighbor who fancies themselves a dictator to their neighbors is unbearable. Nothing worse than person who is all take and no give. Nothing worse than a control freak.



posted on Dec, 16 2010 @ 01:49 PM
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Just in case you havn't been to a muslim country; all the ones I've been to have great big darn compression drivers hanging off their minarets, so that when prayer time comes, you cannot avoid hearing it within a few km of a mosque


Yodelling my ass.



posted on Dec, 16 2010 @ 02:20 PM
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I am seriously SO EFFIN TIRED of the whole "well we dont want offend them", so called "politically correct" non sense!

I dont stereotype muslims, (despite it being so hard not to!) because I have friends who are muslim. Not all of them are extremist, radical, terrorists. But one thing I HAVE noticed, is that many of them are hypocrites.

Why do they expect special treatment like their religion is some handicap thats out of their control? No other religion is as easily offended, and expects everyone around them to adapt to their beliefs. Its the bully mentality of hypocrisy, you have to except everything they do, despite them not wanting to even ATTEMPT to accept any other religion, and everyone is too afraid to stand up because they dont want to get blown up.

This is starting to affect everybody, everywhere.

My girl's father is mayor of a small suburb of Los Angeles. Recently, the quiet town saw an influx of muslim immigrants. No one minded, until they demanded to be allowed to build a mosque in a residential neighborhood. The mayor said it was up to the people in that neighborhood, as they would be the ones most affected by the massive construction, and increase in traffic. They called a vote, and at the town hall meeting, the people of this town couldnt even enter the premises due to the massive amount of muslim people who showed up to hear the verdict. Neighbor after neighbor got up and said they did not want the mosque in that location due the inability to accommodate the huge influx of parking, and traffic. Thats was all. There was not one person who said anything anti-muslim.

Of course the muslims were outraged, and rioted, destroying city property, as well as assaulting the people who were brave enough to just stand up and say "no." The riot squad had to be called in just to allow the people to leave the building safely. Since then, the city council members who were only doing the will of their constituents, have been suffering through phone calls, hate mail/emails, people protesting outside of their homes, numerous death threats. One even caught someone in the act attempting to put an explosive device under his families car....

They vowed to get revenge, and to make the people "pay for what they did."


....and they wonder why people werent ecstatic with the idea of putting a mosque in their neighborhood.



posted on Dec, 16 2010 @ 02:45 PM
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This incident shows the failure of multiculturalism dogma and craziness of political correctness mindset.



posted on Dec, 16 2010 @ 02:45 PM
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When did we switch from Australian to Austrian?? Did I miss something? Arent we still talking about the lawn mowing AUSTRALIAN? Correct me if I am wrong.
I really hope that I discover that whoever starred your post did so after properly lampooning it. I mean really... Australians are well known for yodelling aren't they? Remember that classic hit number...

"Yodelay me kangaroo down, sport. Yodelay me kangaroo down!"



posted on Dec, 16 2010 @ 02:57 PM
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Time and time again we see news reports of certain western traditions or even daily practices offending Muslims.

If they do not like it why are they here? Why are they quite happy to take my taxes on the social and get given a house if they do not agree with our way of life.

When will the world wake up to the threat of Islam?



posted on Dec, 16 2010 @ 02:58 PM
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Originally posted by WhiteDevil013
I am seriously SO EFFIN TIRED of the whole "well we dont want offend them", so called "politically correct" non sense!

I dont stereotype muslims, (despite it being so hard not to!) because I have friends who are muslim. Not all of them are extremist, radical, terrorists. But one thing I HAVE noticed, is that many of them are hypocrites.

Why do they expect special treatment like their religion is some handicap thats out of their control? No other religion is as easily offended, and expects everyone around them to adapt to their beliefs. Its the bully mentality of hypocrisy, you have to except everything they do, despite them not wanting to even ATTEMPT to accept any other religion, and everyone is too afraid to stand up because they dont want to get blown up.

This is starting to affect everybody, everywhere.

My girl's father is mayor of a small suburb of Los Angeles. Recently, the quiet town saw an influx of muslim immigrants. No one minded, until they demanded to be allowed to build a mosque in a residential neighborhood. The mayor said it was up to the people in that neighborhood, as they would be the ones most affected by the massive construction, and increase in traffic. They called a vote, and at the town hall meeting, the people of this town couldnt even enter the premises due to the massive amount of muslim people who showed up to hear the verdict. Neighbor after neighbor got up and said they did not want the mosque in that location due the inability to accommodate the huge influx of parking, and traffic. Thats was all. There was not one person who said anything anti-muslim.

Of course the muslims were outraged, and rioted, destroying city property, as well as assaulting the people who were brave enough to just stand up and say "no." The riot squad had to be called in just to allow the people to leave the building safely. Since then, the city council members who were only doing the will of their constituents, have been suffering through phone calls, hate mail/emails, people protesting outside of their homes, numerous death threats. One even caught someone in the act attempting to put an explosive device under his families car....

They vowed to get revenge, and to make the people "pay for what they did."


....and they wonder why people werent ecstatic with the idea of putting a mosque in their neighborhood.


Thats quite a story, surely such a story was covered by the media and there could be a link?



posted on Dec, 16 2010 @ 03:04 PM
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Stories like this reek of "religious war" agenda. Spun out ommitting stuff to provoke people.

For example...
Local cops tried to intervene several times ...this "yodeling" is something this man has done consistently during Muslim prayer...and I suspect it sounds nothing like yodeling.

Other neighbors were complaining.

The paper that first ran the story pulled it due to "factual errors"

The case never went before a judge as the man acknowledged ignoring the police when they arrived and agreed to pay a fine.

Etc. Etc.



Herr Helmut G. has been moving his lawn, singing and yodeling during the Muslim neighbour's Friday prayer hours many times over the course of a year.
The neighbours did call the police several times, that intervened on their behalf without lasting success.
The police finally filed the case with the public prosecutor.
Public prosecution opened a case, but closed the file (without going to court) because Herr G. agreed to pay an amount of 800 Euro.


message.snopes.com...

For those that read German
www.kobuk.at...

Just crappy spin...and idiots.

He got fined for ignoring the cops when they asked him to shut up.



posted on Dec, 16 2010 @ 03:31 PM
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So this may be a fake story,,,,, but it is just a wake up call to the real problems we have to deal with.
Things have gotten out of control and the problem is getting worse evryday. Here in Canada my wife needed a home worker to come in to give her a sponge bath and do duties that we could not due as we are both disabled. They sent a muslim lady who would not even come in the house as we had 3 dogs. I asked them to send someone else they said we had to cage the dogs,,, I said I would not as they lived with us for 10 years and were part of our family. Well now we get no help and I try to do it all myself... We moved away from Vancouver as they have taken it over.... back to Alberta where there are very few, I guess they don't like the cold weather....Can't help it I don't like them ....just waiting for people to awaken and see we true homesteaders who came and made this country are now the minority . Wait till they ban Christmas and all our Christmas music as it offends them....



posted on Dec, 16 2010 @ 03:54 PM
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The Muslims I know aren't particularly offended by any of that, so let's all stop blindly bashing a whole group of people...or is it that all Black people are criminals and all Mexicans are lazy, too?



posted on Dec, 16 2010 @ 03:55 PM
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This is just silly and smacks of pandering to political correctness. If we were to appease everyone, we wouldn't have much of a society.



posted on Dec, 16 2010 @ 03:57 PM
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You are correct ...this story is BS.

Your story has nothing to do with "Muslims"...a service that provides home care can and often will ask you to kennel your dogs if someone they send has an issue.

You don't have to like Muslims...you are welcome to feel how you choose.

I am sure you know that your defintion of yourself as "true homesteaders" could be offensive to the native people that occupied the territitory before the French arrived.

You also need to get off the internet and stop watching entertainment news if you think "they" are going to "ban Christmas"

Merry Christmas -MB



posted on Dec, 16 2010 @ 04:00 PM
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Originally posted by mothy99
This is just silly and smacks of pandering to political correctness. If we were to appease everyone, we wouldn't have much of a society.


Read this thread page. The story is false. The guy refused to stop even when the cops came repeatedly was being an idiot and harrassing his neighbors...and it wasn't just the Muslim neighbors that complained. He refused to stop when the cops asked him to. It never went to court. He paid the fine. The paper that ran the story pulled the story due to factual errors.
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posted on Dec, 16 2010 @ 04:10 PM
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That guy needs to have some friends over for a BBQ next weekend. Whole pig on a spit in clear view with fans on high, blowing the smoke and mouth watering smells of lechon to his most holy neighbor.



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