are you a alien half breed? best not let them get your DNA

Originally posted by Serizawa
reply to post by Pimander

 

There are probably plenty of others reasons to harvest DNA but there are a few for you to be going on with if you want to be a little bit more informed.

Well it seems like all your ideas were previously posted? You bring nothing new to the table there fore your post was irrelevant. Should i mention all the other ideas members have posted and make a huge list that would satisfy your need to seem 'more intelligent'? I think that's a habit you should've left behind at high school.

Pardon me? You look to me like you are deliberately trying to misrepresent me Seriwaza!

This is what I actually posted.

Originally posted by Pimander

Originally posted by Serizawa
If anything the royal families have the hybrid DNA, none of us.....Why would they wanna kill their own? Ever heard of royal bloodlines?.....The only reason they would collect DNA is to clone.

That simply is not true. I can reliably inform you that you can collect DNA for the purposes of being able to identify people (like fingerprinting), to study population dynamics and ancestry (like that science called population genetics), to identify genetic targets for germ warfare, to harvest genes that may be useful (which is one use of cloning such as to grow proteins like insulin or be able to implant characteristics like disease or heat resistance into plants or humans) or there is also whole organism cloning.

There are probably plenty of others reasons to harvest DNA but there are a few for you to be going on with if you want to be a little bit more informed.

My point was clearly that you were wrong that cloning is the only reason to collect DNA. Yes Kandinsky did mention studying populations and another poster mentioned germ warfare. However, all of those reasons for DNA harvesting were not previously posted and nor where any of them attempting to make a concise summary as a response to you. If you don't like to be challenged then don't post anything.

I was not attempting to, 'seem more intelligent', at all. I have some experience in Genetic engineering and was trying to inform you. Being more informed about a topic does not make you more intelligent but not sharing knowledge is plain stupid. You have my apologies if that came across as condescending.

You were nevertheless completely wrong so get over it.

Originally posted by mayabong
Very interesting, watching this now.

My question. Where do the jews fit into all of this? I always figured they were the Reptile Annunaki. Not all of them of course but the ones in high positions of power. They more than any other people, try to keep their bloodlines pure.

edit on 15-12-2010 by mayabong because: (no reason given)

Ouch man, what would that say about me? Am I part reptilian? No, I don't think so, and I am also of hebrew heritage. SO...?

reply to post by FlyInTheOintment


I freakin love your post! I too was raised as a military child and remember random test things being done that my mother swears she never took me too but she was the one in the room with me. Great theory on this subject, they just talked about this very thing on an eppie of Ancient Aliens. Only it was more aimed at ancient heros and mythic creatures for the cross hybreeding.

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My apologizes as well but i felt attacked and had to defend myself. You may be right but even a watch that's broken is right twice a day and i do not believe I'm completely wrong on the cloning.

Doomsday Seed Bank

A vast underground vault storing millions of seeds from around the world took delivery of its first shipment Tuesday. Dubbed the "Doomsday Vault," the seed bank on a remote island near the Arctic Ocean is considered the ultimate safety net for the world's seed collections, protecting them from a wide range of threats including war, natural disasters, lack of funding or simply poor agricultural management. Norwegian musicians performed Tuesday as part of an elaborate opening ceremony marking the opening of the vault, located 130 meters (427 feet) inside a frozen mountain. Wangari Maathai, a Kenyan environmental and political activist who won the 2004 Nobel Peace Prize, placed the first seeds inside the vault, followed by other dignitaries.
The inaugural shipment represent 268,000 distinct samples of seeds, with each sample containing a hundred-plus seeds and originating from a different farm or field around the world. In all, the shipment of seeds secured in the vault Tuesday weighed approximately 10 tons, filling 676 boxes. The seed vault is the perfect place for keeping seeds safe for centuries," said Cary Fowler, executive director of the trust. At these temperatures, seeds for important crops like wheat, barley and peas can last for up to 10,000 years.

Source CNN

Now don't you think they could be doing the same thing with our DNA? It's a possibility. How can you tell me I'm completely wrong and i should get over it?

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You are freaking awesome. I am obsessed with Stargate and own the entire series of both SG1 and Atlantis.

Maybe it's more like the Ancient/Replicator issue. The Replicators who wanted to ascend came back to Atlantis and attempted to swap their nanite bodies for flesh-and-blood bodies. What if these "aliens/fairies" can only use a body made with specific DNA.

LOL. Remember the epidode where Loki kidnapped Jack to see if his DNA would solve their genetic degredation issue? Also relevant to the OP, I suppose.

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LOL sometimes I want to stop coming to this site
for this reason
i'll say what i want, ban me


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reply to post by FlyInTheOintment

Hybrids can be created from any creature which shares a DNA type structure in theory

Yes, exactly. You're then saying aliens may share our DNA to a degree that would let a hybridisation occur. That's impossible. The evolution of DNA itself came about on this planet by a natural process that must be and would be different on every planet - the chemical reactions that caused molecules to form must differ on every planet. The fact you don't know that shows how much u don't know.

First you have to show how ananine could be produced in the exact same way on another planet under the same conditions, then they need ribose and a group of phosphates. You can't just expect these chemicals to work the same way on other planets.

Don't forget that our science is only fifty years in the making - any race who are advanced by even a mere hundred years or so on us would be capable of amazing things in the laboratory.

However, if they have the technology to create alien human hybrids, we're then talking about a race that knows how life came about exactly to the degree, they can create life themselves. Because the difference between life on our own planet is so diverse even though we mostly are made of the same four letters, aliens would not be of the same chemical components and so they would have to make an entirely new life form to bridge the gap between us - which means they wouldn't need to combine with us, they can just create life from the ground up.

Hybrid alien human is just illogical.

Two of my relatives have degrees/PhD's (one has a doctorate) in genetics/ microbiology, so I have a reasonable background in terms of general understanding of the matter.

What has that have to do with anything, unless you want to ask them yourself, i don't see why telling me about your reltives helps....

Did you consider the idea that the 'aliens' might have been responsible for a hybridisation experiment leading to the birth of the human race?

NO i dont. Because, drum rol me plz..... there is enough scientific understanding of the evolution of man that there is no doubt in the science community how we came to be - fun fact: there are no missing links.
There is no need to imply a hand in our evolution in order for man to currently be around, for you to imply there is, means you know nothing of biology or evolution - how bout you go ask your relatives where man came from and you'll find you entire belief in aliens will go out the window.

If that were the case, then that would give us at least one species with which legitimate hybrid lines could be relatively easily created.

Fact of reality - there are no alien species, no legitimate hybrid lines. You're talking make believe bs. How bout you base your alien hybrid claim on some facts - where are those alien human hybrid remains in museums? Stop lying to yourself and face reality.

Why would a human/alien hybrid be a 'fantasy... magic' event? Surely it is simply a hypothetical scenario?

Sure, but buddha is claiming some sort of crazy fantasy is actually real. I've got nothing against simple speculation. Sure imagine all you want a distract 9 hybrid but when you make the claim with such certainty and expect people with rational minds to accept such garbage, expect claims to be backed up.

considering Francis Crick's theory that life on Earth may have been 'seeded' deliberately, aeons ago, is it not a legitimate possibility?

No, because then what created the aliens? not logical.

I don't think you can really argue against that.

Well i just did, besides, the burden of proof is on the person making the claim. I don't care if it's some random making a hypothetical but when you make the claim over a scientific theory you have to show the evidence backing the claim.

Andre18 you dont read past the title do you.
(andre18)“but buddha is claiming some sort of crazy fantasy is actually real. I've got nothing against simple speculation.”
and I said”And I only say this is a idea I have.“ in the first post.
( I knew some one like you would do this.)
so you can ether apologise or stop reading if it upsets you so much.
But I bet you will stay and read more.
But you will only see what you want to see.

Why do people who have no belief read this type of post?
If they hate and have no belief in any thing.
Andre18 Did you bully other kids at school?
stop bullying the rest of us.

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Well in that case if you don't actually believe it and are just putting an idea out there i've got no beef with you. However, there are those on this thread that actually believe your idea is an actual reality and so here i am.

(For those that really believe reptilians are breading with us and greys are taking our babies etc - get a life theres no such thing.)

Did you watch the utube video? At the beginning.
skip the first bit till you get to the Iraq war bit.
Dont look just after he says children killed.
Bad pic... only one.
Utube film
This man is saying that the US & UK army are
killing people they believes are alien half breeds.
This could be full humans killing them off.
Or another half breed of evil aliens,
killing them off. Could be more than two race of aliens or more?
Maybe a lot of aliens did scientific experiments on human DNA.
The missing link?
Are we in the middle of an alien war?
They will not kill off big numbers of half breeds in civilised country’s.
But a country at war! They go all out.
But they are making lists of who is one of Them!
So later they can kill them off.
Hitlar with his mass killings could have been the start of this.
He could not tell witch of them where
the half breeds so he just killed them all.
No we have reached a level of technology that can
read the DNA on a level they can tell who is a half breed.
Why would they go to so much trouble to get the DNA of the UN?
And how many leader at the UN died after this?
They “?” are finding and killing any in positions of power.
I have no idea if I am a full human or not.
Maybe this is why some can be so good and others so evil.
Maybe the war between good and evil in the bible is this?
The nephilim could have been one of the first trys at breeding with human DNA.
Did they have a war then? They would be easy to spot.
I am just thinking aloud now, hope you dont mind.
Just dont go of the deep end and rant!

Originally posted by buddha
I dont think most half breeds know what they are.
they may just feel differently?
maybe blood groups come from alien half breeds.
but to tell with is a real half breed you need a DNA test?

and maybe there are Two races of half breeds.
and one is trying to kill the other off?

I don't this is a possible scenario, even having the markers in their dna, from ancestors creates this ufo abduction scenario that involves the whole family, and thats the watered down marker variety.

One could say that they hybrids are somewhat protected, I am guessing, but feel that the mafia pyramid scheme they're living under is probably not highly condusive to love and they're most likely alot more expendable than they think.

On the other hand, for anyone waking up in this system/school and learning love, and experiencing Higher Ups, if they can reach the unconditional Love channel, then real protection is there, barring those things that are required or meant to be for soul growth. In otherwords, you can have faith, you're in good hands, and if its your time, it truly IS your time.

grrr! how do you inbed? a utube video?
I tryd putting it in all types of ways.
help!

Originally posted by andre18
reply to post by FlyInTheOintment

 

FLY -
Hybrids can be created from any creature which shares a DNA type structure in theory

Yes, exactly. You're then saying aliens may share our DNA to a degree that would let a hybridisation occur.

Yes, that's what I'm saying. That some alien species may share our DNA to some degree.

That's impossible. The evolution of DNA itself came about on this planet by a natural process that must be and would be different on every planet - the chemical reactions that caused molecules to form must differ on every planet. The fact you don't know that shows how much u don't know.

It's most certainly not impossible. You don't know whether this planet was once barren of organic life, being seeded with the basics many aeons ago, as I originally speculated. So therefore, you can't prove your speculation that life evolved entirely independently. So why are you arguing so fiercely?

First you have to show how ananine could be produced in the exact same way on another planet under the same conditions, then they need ribose and a group of phosphates. You can't just expect these chemicals to work the same way on other planets.

Good points - however, this is irrelevant if the hypothetical working parameters in my 'thought experiment' provide these attributes as a 'given'. My core theory - what makes this whole thing workable - is that DNA is not necessarily an entirely 'local to earth' phenomenon. I do believe that the earth was seeded as per Crick's hypothesis.

FLY - Don't forget that our science is only fifty years in the making - any race who are advanced by even a mere hundred years or so on us would be capable of amazing things in the laboratory.

I'll stand by what I wrote in the above - it's still a legitimate statement.

Hybrid alien human is just illogical.

No it isn't, if the 'aliens' share the same basic DNA structures, as I said in my original post.

FLY - Two of my relatives have degrees/PhD's (one has a doctorate) in genetics/ microbiology, so I have a reasonable background in terms of general understanding of the matter.

What has that have to do with anything, unless you want to ask them yourself, i don't see why telling me about your reltives helps....

I was trying to show that I'm not entirely unfamiliar with genetics. I guess you're right though, in real terms it means nothing, so point taken.

FLY - Did you consider the idea that the 'aliens' might have been responsible for a hybridisation experiment leading to the birth of the human race?

NO i dont. Because, drum rol me plz..... there is enough scientific understanding of the evolution of man that there is no doubt in the science community how we came to be - fun fact: there are no missing links.

There is no need to imply a hand in our evolution in order for man to currently be around, for you to imply there is, means you know nothing of biology or evolution - how bout you go ask your relatives where man came from and you'll find you entire belief in aliens will go out the window.

No, that's incorrect. To suggest that doubts do not exist in the scientific community is nonsense. And your 'fun fact' is also nonsense. Evolution doesn't account for the massive increase in the mass of the cerebral cortex between the Homo genii leading to the modern expression as Homo Sapiens Sapiens. There is no missing link, just a massive leap from one group of hominids (there were several pretenders to the 'direct ancestor' crown) to the modern human race. I know a reasonable amount about biology and evolution considering I'm a non-specialist.

Interventionism is the key, imho.

FLY - If that were the case, then that would give us at least one species with which legitimate hybrid lines could be relatively easily created.

You haven't created a reasonable basis for your disagreement with the above points, so your arguments against it were moot.

FLY - Why would a human/alien hybrid be a 'fantasy... magic' event? Surely it is simply a hypothetical scenario?

Sure, but buddha is claiming some sort of crazy fantasy is actually real. I've got nothing against simple speculation. Sure imagine all you want a distract 9 hybrid but when you make the claim with such certainty and expect people with rational minds to accept such garbage, expect claims to be backed up.

Thanks for admitting that your 'fantasy...magic' statement was effectively unwarranted in the context of our discussion. Not sure why you're bringing up an allegorical Hollywood sci-fi film based on the political history of South Africa.

FLY - considering Francis Crick's theory that life on Earth may have been 'seeded' deliberately, aeons ago, is it not a legitimate possibility?

No, because then what created the aliens? not logical.

It is a legitimate possibility that life on Earth may have been seeded. EVOLUTION could have created the aliens. Or a previous intervention, carried out on their progenitors by an evolved species. Or by their predecessors predecessors, etc etc up to around several billion years ago. I don't disagree with evolution as a general explanation of how life evolves - just that it doesn't strictly apply to the origins of the modern human race.

FLY - I don't think you can really argue against that.

Well i just did

Not very effectively, seeing as you've failed to provide any real refutation. I concede only that unless we share basic DNA structures, then hybrid lines would be either impossible (in purist terms of DNA combination), or extremely difficult to even a massively advanced race - who might resort to manual adaptation (creating mutants) incorporating attributes by substituting equivalent 'code' in whatever base form necessary.

What remains true is that here on Earth, alien/human hybrids are theoretically possible, given the anthropological indications, and a wealth of circumstantial archaeological and mythological indicators.

And so on.

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ok so i watched some of the video - and it's basically saying "listen to this guy's bs without questioning what he has to say - forget researching any of it, just take it out face value."

There is no evidence that he brings up to support his crazy arse claims. Some guy gets his head chopped off and it's because he's an alien.....great linear thinking there. Aliens of course! How bout next time you watch a video on aliens, you do your own research on it before you believe it out right. By the way, that same guy claims the Illuminati are controlling the world and also believes the moon landing was a hoax. The guy is bat# nuts.

reply to post by FlyInTheOintment

Yes, that's what I'm saying. That some alien species may share our DNA to some degree.

All i could find was this www.dailygalaxy.com...

A recent mathematical analysis says that life as we know it is written into the laws of reality. DNA is built from a set of twenty amino acids - the first ten of those can create simple prebiotic life, and now it seems that those ten are thermodynamically destined to occur wherever they can.

I don't doubt life may be abundant throughout the universe but every single planets organism will have completely different DNA to each others and even if by some future advance in science we find DNA itself and not just the amino acids are as much apart of the everyday universe as suns, planets and nebula's are. And it's actually possible for aliens to bread with us using technology then sure i can accept that.

However, thats a bloody far cry from current ridiculous claims of aliens presently coming to our planet and hybridizing with us and trying to take over the world...lol

You don't know whether this planet was once barren of organic life, being seeded with the basics many aeons ago

Actually i do. There is no reason, no evidence to suggest aliens seeded life on this planet -

To suggest that doubts do not exist in the scientific community is nonsense. And your 'fun fact' is also nonsense. Evolution doesn't account for....

accounts for everything!




educate yourself

It is a legitimate possibility that life on Earth may have been seeded. EVOLUTION could have created the aliens. Or a previous intervention, carried out on their progenitors by an evolved species. Or by their predecessors predecessors, etc etc up to around several billion years ago. I don't disagree with evolution as a general explanation of how life evolves - just that it doesn't strictly apply to the origins of the modern human race.

No, there's no science backing it and there's no logical reason for it. I said it once ill say it again, where did life first originate if aliens evolved from seeded aliens being seeded by other aliens in a ridiculous loop that makes no sense. At some point you to stop and say ok at this point these aliens evolved naturally on their own planet which then led to them making us.

But when you think in that way, you can just make the more logical assertion that we ourselves evolved naturally as the theory of evolution dictates and accept that life began here - not on another planet. Besides, the theory of evolution isn't meant to explain the origin of life, but only the diversity of how life evolves. Abiogenesis explains how life came about on this planet and does not require a hand in its beginnings. Nothing legitimate about your theory at all.

BTW, do you actually think aliens and humans are now being hybridised to the extent depicted in stories where reptilian and grey aliens are breading with us and taking babies from pregnant mothers?