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Originally posted by aliengenes
reply to post by dplum517
hmmmmm then i guess the 1000s of photos ,video tapes, written testimonies and millions of eye witness accounts including my own isnt proof? well i beg to differ.
the problem debunkers have , is disproving the accountability of actual witnesses. and that is all
Originally posted by FlyInTheOintment
Drummer man - take your shenanigans elsewhere. AlienGenes stated in the OP he wasn't here to provide facts. We're allowed to speculate and share opinions you know.
Originally posted by schitzoandro
reply to post by traditionaldrummer
can you prove any of this is not true?
Originally posted by traditionaldrummer
Originally posted by dplum517
Thanks for taking this thread out of context. You have added no insightful thoughts or information.
Obviously the OP did not make this thread to prove anything, he more so wanted to express his opinion based on plenty of anecdotal evidence that has factual evidence to back a lot of it up.
Requiring evidence of a series of fantastic claims is entirely contextual. And if his anecdotal evidence has some factual evidence behind it, as you claim, I believe we all deserve to know what that is.
Am I just supposed to believe on faith that space fairies play hide and seek with everyone but the government? Am I not allowed to ask what the evidence and proof is for this bizarre claim?
Originally posted by dplum517
Sorry but you have simply not taken the time to go through the mountains of information that are available.
Its hard to prove something when people don't accept Video/Photographic/Eyewitness/Testimonies as evidence.
Just recently military personnel have spoke at the "National Press Club" of how UFOs have turned off Nuclear Missle Silos and so on. Also, the many Astronauts that have given flat out descriptions and accounts of UFOs in space.
As far as actually seeing the beings, plenty of people have, they are called "abductee's."
Also I would suggest that you look UP to the sky more because plenty of normal folk see true UFO's (not planes or balloons) everyday.
Its not a matter of belief anymore, its just a fact of life.
although the governments and religious organizations of the world would choose to keep all this a secret.
witness in-atmosphere non-human flying objects
they're waiting for us to open our consciousness,our acknowledgment,and our trust. so they may be welcome to become a part of our future and our reality....our family
Originally posted by schitzoandro
this debate will just go on and on...
all you are saying is that OTHERS are wrong, you can't prove you are correct either, again it's just the ongoing battle... i see we are on opposite sides of this...
but really i'd like to see your proof, not just saying 'you can't prove it' doesn't substantiate your proof at all... so i see that you have no evidence to substantiate your claims either...
Originally posted by aliengenes
Its not a matter of belief anymore, its just a fact of life. for thousands of years we have been visited and been invaded by alien and non alien species. the time has come they need to make their presence known to all and for us to adjust to their presence, and to except them as a part of our reality. although the governments and religious organizations of the world would choose to keep all this a secret. they cant. the aliens are making known their presence throughout the world in perpetual cycle as they move about the planet on their work schedules, doing what it is they do? but more increasingly without care who witnesses their movements.
Every night i go out into the night sky's and watch above large cities and out in deep country, and without fail, witness in-atmosphere non-human flying objects, Every Time i go out. I could spend hours watching them, but just to see them nightly a few here and a few there satisfies and re-enforces everything Ive come to believe and except as the new unfolding reality i must face.
they're waiting for us to open our consciousness,our acknowledgment,and our trust. so they may be welcome to become a part of our future and our reality....our family
we as an intelligent knowledge truth seeking earth species, must tell our governments and our religions to "Tear Down This Wall" of secrecy and denial, so our galactic brothers and sisters can share without the threat of termination and capture and prejudice.
The powers that be must quit conspiring against it citizens and its guests and be a proper host, so we may all live together harmoniously in truth and peace.
CARING IS SHARING
Originally posted by dplum517
Seriously man??? Stop Trolling. This isn't the thread for that so please take your ignorance else where. I mean, why would you want to take part in something that you know nothing about?
According to your logic, if we don't know what something is then we best not talk or worry about it.
And again, if you can't accept CREDIBLE testimony from individuals that have been to the moon, space, and in the military then maybe you should start rethinking life, as you yourself cannot trust a single person.
Originally posted by schitzoandro
reply to post by traditionaldrummer
can you prove any of this is not true?