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Originally posted by FlyInTheOintment
reply to post by traditionaldrummer
In the post I'm replying to you ask to be convinced as to the reasons people believe in UFOs and extraterrestrial intelligence. I'm not convinced you want to be convinced.
When someone says "I don't care whether you believe what I believe", you promptly dismiss them for taking that line. Newsflash - they just can't be bothered banging their heads against the inevitable brick wall. :bnghd:
Elsewhere (when someone tries to explain) you dismiss all attempts as unscientific, unreliable, unverifiable (etc).
I detect a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" situation on my c********o radar. [atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/0b9b3f14ecde.gif[/atsimg] It seems that you will never be satisfied with any answer you are given when the subject is UFOlogy, unless mainstream academia throws down thirty years worth of peer-reviewed evidence beforehand (which we all know won't happen any time soon).
So go and find something else to talk about! As per my previous post? I just don't understand why you're still here..?? Unless it's to frustrate and detract, to dissuade the interest of unbiased observers/ lurkers who are curious about the subject of UFO sightings and so forth...
If people aren't allowed to be interested, then nobody will ever learn (or prove) anything...
You are now spamming this thread, on some sort of crusade to prove UFOlogy enthusiasts to be unintelligent, unreliable, poor judges of evidence and so on. We don't deserve to be treated in this way, particularly on a conspiracy site, where the guidelines of this particular forum state that the bulk of opinion will lean in favour of the acceptability of theories relating to UFO/ alien existence.
Ever heard the phrase 'agree to disagree'? I think it most definitely applies here. Anyone who is interested in UFOlogy should (and probably would) steer clear of your style of reasoning, at least while the field of study is at this stage in its development. It (hyper-skepticism) literally gets us nowhere.
Originally posted by zorgon
Originally posted by amc621
What documents from the airforce? All those docs are not official.
For those like you...doesn't really matter what documents one shows, because you won't look at em anyway.
To make a statement like "All those docs are not official" is basically just plain ignorant and shows you never even looked
:shk:
In my opinion, the burden of proof does not lie with the believer, but with the seeker... because when stuff is laid out for you and you refuse to see it, who is the fool?
Disclosure NSA Style
www.abovetopsecret.com...
When you finish that thread, come back and tell me again how these documents are not official, that is if your not afraid to go to NSA, .gov and .mil sites to see it for yourself
Deny Ignorance, yours
Originally posted by FlyInTheOintment
reply to post by amc621
Your insinuations of childishness do nothing but prove your own.
2nd.
Edit - AlienGenes... I commend you on your resolve and tenacity. As per a couple of supporters on the thread, there are plenty of sources which indicate a coverup, and that, I believe, is adequate to support my suggestion that we cannot profit from hyperskepticism (eg demand for full academic rigor when the evidence is literally being swept under the carpet). Good luck - I won't be back her for a while as I've other things to do. Arguing resolves little when the field is as ambiguous as UFOlogy. Any reasonable person can see the scales are weighted against us.
edit on 16-12-2010 by FlyInTheOintment because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by FlyInTheOintment
Surely you can agree that there is more than a shred of evidence that something relating to the UFO/ alien question is being covered up by those in the most secretive and powerful positions?
Originally posted by schitzoandro
you are so sure in the fact that no one can provide HARD evidence to your face, although your eyes wouldn't believe it if you saw it, you would only ask "did spielberg make that for you?"