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Originally posted by Thill
Originally posted by letmeDANz
I firmly believe one human life span is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too small for us to know even a small bit about the 'universe' we live in.
Thank you for sharing
Among other things that is why I believe that one human lifespan is not all we get Just to make it clear that is my opinion and please do not flame me based on your (generally speaking) belief
When the Dead Sea Scrolls were discovered in 1947, it was considered the greatest archeological discovery ever found. It revealed never before known information about the Jewish sects at the beginning of the transformation of a small sect of Jews that later developed into Christianity. Two years earlier, in 1945, early Christian Gnostic writings were discovered which also provided important details about the early sects of Christianity. Together, the Dead Sea Scrolls and the Gnostic discoveries yielded more information in particular concerning Jewish and early Christian mystic belief and practice of divine union (i.e., attaining a perfect human-divine unity). In fact, the Dead Sea Scrolls prove that the Jewish mystical tradition of divine union went back to the first, perhaps even the third, century B.C.E. Jewish mysticism has its origins in Greek mysticism, a system of belief which included reincarnation. Among the Dead Sea Scrolls, some of the hymns found are similar to the Hekhaloth hymns of the Jewish mystics. One text of hymns gives us clear evidence of Jewish mysticism. The text is called "Songs of the Sabbath Sacrifice." Fragments of 1 Enoch, which is considered the oldest text of Jewish mysticism, were also found with the Scrolls. Since evidence shows Jewish mysticism existed in the third century B.C.E., as Enoch indicates, then it would certainly have existed in first-century Israel. As stated earlier, the ideas of divine union and reincarnation can both be found in early Christianity. One may easily conclude it was the key to the very heart of Jesus message.
One particular Dead Sea Scroll entitled "I IQ Melchizedek Text" which contains a sermon called "The Last Jubilee", mentions reincarnation. This scroll is about the "last days" during which time it says, a "Melchizedek redivivus" (revived, reincarnate) will appear and destroy Belial (Satan) and lead the children of God to eternal forgiveness. Below are parts of this message from this scroll, parts of which are unreadable. The unreadable parts will be denoted by this (...) symbol. Here is it's message:
So Dr. Who is reaching for a time when it becomes obvious that space itself is a moving and plastic organism with motions of space undreamed of as yet by our somewhat primitive sciences.
Originally posted by Aronolac
January 02, 2011
REPLY TO: DerepentLEstranger
DLE, breathing heavily, wrote:
“being a incurable bibliophile you’ve triggered a Pavlovian reflex
“[drools] "book what book?"
Only the best kept secret for half a century and more. It has been maligned and misunderstood to the point it is criticized even before it is read. Give it a chance: read it! Let me quote from the Paper on space in the Urantia Book to give you a taste of how it is written:
“Space is, from the human viewpoint, nothing—negative; it exists only as related to something positive and nonspatial. Space is, however, real. It contains and conditions motion. It even moves. Space motions may be roughly classified as follows:
Primary motion—space respiration, the motion of space itself.
Secondary motion—the alternate directional swings of the successive space levels.
Relative motions—relative in the sense that they are not evaluated with Paradise [the central core] as a base point.
Primary and secondary motions are absolute, motion in relation to unmoving Paradise [central core].
Compensatory or correlating movement designed to co-ordinate all other motions.
“The present relationship of your sun and its associated planets, while disclosing many relative and absolute motions in space, tends to convey the impression to astronomic observers that you are comparatively stationary in space, and that the surrounding starry clusters and streams are engaged in outward flight at ever-increasing velocities as your calculations proceed outward in space. But such is not the case. You fail to recognize the present outward and uniform expansion of the physical creations of all pervaded space. Your own local creation (Nebadon) participates in this movement of universal outward expansion. The entire seven superuniverses participate in the two-billion-year cycles of space respiration along with the outer regions of the master universe.”
[Paper 12 Section 4 of the Urantia Book]
It speaks for itself, so I will let it do that for you.
Thanks for your response.