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WikiLeaks: Do criminal secrets merit legal protections?

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posted on Dec, 15 2010 @ 03:11 AM
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Hello ATS!

Well here's what it all boils down to isn't it?

WikiLeaks "criminally" published contraband information that was criminally obtained. Because of the method of obtainment, this makes WL an accessory to crime. Why should they expect Constitutional Guarantees when in reality they have no right to claim American Rights because they're not even citizens of this country? Does the American Constitution grant it's freedoms and rights to Australians now?

On the flip side, WL has exposed serious criminal activities being performed by American Legislators and Service Men and Women in Iraq, Cuba, and Afghanistan that have been hidden from us under the pretense of 'National Security" that every morally honest person must admit would not be tolerated. Doesn't the American Constitution preside over legality in this Country any longer?

A catch 22 has arisen, which merits justification AND condemnation of all involved. Do criminal secrets merit legal protections? Do illegal actions deserve freedom from justice?

Should a CONSTITUTIONALLY GUARANTEED RIGHT be broadsided by biased embarrassment and founded fears? Should Americans address the actions of our elected officers, making them accountable under law?

Should we allow them to hedge themselves further by letting them pass 11th hour legislation directed against the Freedom of Press, Freedom of Speech, and the RIGHT America possesses to be told THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH - SO HELP US GOD?

I leave the floor of debate open at this time...





posted on Dec, 15 2010 @ 03:25 AM
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In what way has WL ciminally published anything? What US law has WL broken? In which US court has WL been found guility of breaking and which US law? Please explain.



posted on Dec, 15 2010 @ 03:41 AM
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US Military personnel have been arrested for the crime of theft of US property. That poperty found its way into WL possession, therefore WL as committed the following crimes:

1. Accessory to a crime, against the PERSON of the United States, 2. aiding and abetting the offense of a crime, 3. recieving and possessing stolen property.


edit on 15-12-2010 by Heyyo_yoyo because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 15 2010 @ 05:20 AM
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HAHA!
Being arrested for stealing 'Top secret documents' that are hiding illigal activities of the government, what a dilema!

Now maybe the US govenment can wriggle themselves out of it by scaremongery and creating new laws that back what they want....seems to be working great at the moment.
Did i miss something....i mean really, do the US have the whole world at ransom? Other countries that continue to support them hide diplomatic secrets that are outright crimes against humanity and are honestly pathetic and shows what the leaders will do to cover their own backs.

Now what will be next is as follows:
They (US and goverments alike) will gain the rights to access your emails if you post on ATS, follow Asange or if you generally have a brain.......

watch this space.



posted on Dec, 15 2010 @ 05:21 AM
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Did I miss anything??



posted on Dec, 15 2010 @ 05:24 AM
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1. Accessory to a crime, against the PERSON of the United States, 2. aiding and abetting the offense of a crime, 3. recieving and possessing stolen property.


They received no physical property, only data..

As did all media outlets..

Actually many questioned why Wiki gave the leaks to the media this time...
Maybe he was clever..
They can't arrest every editor or reporter that's mentioned these leaks..



posted on Dec, 15 2010 @ 05:33 AM
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Here's what it boils down to....

Wikileaks has NOT broken any criminal law of any nation including the USA by releasing any of the cables.



posted on Dec, 15 2010 @ 07:05 AM
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I don't think it matters how wikileaks got this info or anything. What is most disturbing to me is the fact that people seem to want to defend the US (government) so zealously. Why should we defend the crimes of the government? Its your standard strong arm situation. They did something wrong and got caught so to get everyone back in line and not exposing there secrets anymore they try and make some example of the offending parties...

The law is meant to protect people and is supposed to be enforced to do this. Our constitution is a farce and this kind of stuff proves it.



posted on Dec, 15 2010 @ 11:31 AM
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lol...


They received no physical property, only data..


'data', especially 'informational data', is legally more protected than most 'physical property'. Informational data is considered intellectual property, as well as can contain 'privileged' information known as trade secrets, critical infrastructures, personal identities, etc. This 'data' doesn't belong to anyone else but it's owners. To gain UNAUTHORIZED access to this 'data' alone is considered legally as 'breaking and entering'. To thus acquire the 'data' contained upon that domain (which obviously didn't have Julian Assanges name attached to it) is thus defined as theft of private and/or intelectual property.

You should understand that, agreed?



posted on Dec, 15 2010 @ 11:43 AM
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The compartmentalised method of keeping secrets was lifted directly from the nazi's.
To defend such a despotic type of governance is basically treason .
It is the DUTY of every individual in the USA to remove any government that acts in a DESPOTIC manner.

The government of America stands accused of been totally DESPOTIC, only cowards will allow that type of government to remain.

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