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Bradley Manning & State Department cables/memos

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posted on Dec, 15 2010 @ 03:10 AM
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Many think Bradley manning released the State Department documents. That is not true. He did provide the footage of the killing of Reuters reporters in Baghdad during an attack on purported hostiles from an Apache helicopter.

ARMY report concerning the killing of Reuters personnel

The US government has muddied the waters over this debacle by implicating that the young Army Intel Analyst released State Department secret cables (memos) but they have not cleared this up within the main stream media. In other words, many citizens around the world actualy believe those cables came from Manning. They simply did not. But this helps the US government by simply not telling the public that these are two incidents with the secret cable provider still a mystery.


Salon

The defense computer system that contained those cables is known as Secret Internet Protocol Router Network, or Siprnet. It is basically a highly secure Intranet that is difficult to impossible to crack. Unless you are authorized to be on the system however, being authorized to be on this system never equates that one can access another's information due to the way the system is built.

If the person(s) who released those State Department classified docs is found out and thats a big if, it will be the same as finding that proverbial needle in the haystack. One thing is clear and that is Manning did not release those cables. The public needs to be aware of this.

It also brings into question is why didn't the US government shut down Wikileaks during the period that Wikileaks was stating they were going to dump all of those documents? Robert Gates, SECDEF stated that the release did not damage any Intelligence Agency's ability to operate but did indanger the lives of troops. If the war efforts didn;t already do enough damage that is. What is the danger of the release of memos stating that another country's leader is inept in the bedroom then? perhaps Assange was in the right neighborhood but on the wrong street in regards to getting at the truth about other incidents of the US government? It is said (but not confirmed)that information on that system in regards to September 11, 2001, Waco Texas and other incidents are stored within the system for intelligence reference purposes. Again this is unconfirmed and should not prompt anyone to speculate further but the possiblities of such information being dumped into the public domain are scary to those who were involved in such incidents.




The Secret Internet Protocol Router Network (SIPRNET) is the Department of Defense's largest network for the exchange of classified information and messages at the SECRET level. It supports the Global Command and Control System, the Defense Message System, and numerous other classified warfighting and planning applications. Although the SIPRNET uses the same communications procedures as the Internet, it has dedicated and encrypted lines that are separate from all other communications systems. It is the classified counterpart of the Unclassified but Sensitive Internet Protocol Router Network (NIPRNET), which provides seamless interoperability for unclassified combat support applications and controlled access to the Internet.
Source: SIPRNET User manual

The system can be used as stated above for sending messeges very similiar to using IM internet based services to anyone who is on the system. Including HF (high frequency) messege text which is the type used by the Secret Service during 911. Simply stated, the user who is at a computer terminal CAN use the infrared port to transfer data otherwise, the user is supposed to cover the IR port with "metallic tape". Yes...duct tape! However many users simply cover the port with their backpacks, books or other items. If the State Department memos came from SIPRNET then we would already know who passed them. By not knowing hwo did it, this is direct proof that it was not Manning and those were downloaded directly from the State Department internal system or another system entirely.

The convicted hacker & Project Vigilant consultant caught him one:

Adrian Lamo called the Army and told them that Manning had downloaded secret docs after contacting him via IM. Lamo had been chatting with Manning using the system although some deny this. Lamo is a convicted hacker well known for having a penchant for secret spy stuff and was working for Project Vigilant. Who or what is that? A private institution whose has contracts with the FBI and the NSA to name a few.


Toptenz. Lamo holding his arrest warrant


Based on this material retrieved from Google cache, Project Vigilant is a fraud. The recent stories about Chet Uber recruiting volunteer Internet spies at Defcon, bragging about having 600 volunteers and advising Adrian Lamo to inform on Bradley Manning have been based on public relations hyperbole.

This material shows:

1. It has no physical address, no proof of legal existence, no assets, no evidence it is governmentally authorized to steal personal and business data, and to train and criminally direct volunteers to steal personal and business data around the world for ostensible government use.

2. No evidence that the stolen personal and business data is provided to governments in compliance with law governing such data.

3. Personal information on volunteers is being harvested for undisclosed purposes by offering a pretentious training and vetting process to ostensibly assure protection of national security secrets around the globe, with claims that federal agencies like the State Deparment will be involved. No qualifications to train in or handle national security secrets are offered.

4. Unpaid services by volunteers are being solicited under guise of patriotism to avoid or minimize financial accounting, salaries, insurance and health benefits, taxation and government oversight.

5. Notable persons have been induced to legitimate Project Vigilant by allowing their names to be used, or used without their permission or knowledge.

6. A plan to enlist children as spies.

Cryptome

Project Vigilant is a fraud

Wannabe spies playing wannabe games is what this sounds like and I'm highly suspicious of anything Lamo has to say despite that the MSM is playing him up to be some sort of "hero" by turning in Manning. He has everything to gain by playing in this arena including having his record esponged and is now getting protection from the FBI due to threats and some who have argued that Lamo was the hacker in the system who originally found those famous documents then played Manning. I suspect this to be the case when Wikileaks released the memos and I learned just who was involved with Manning.


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posted on Dec, 15 2010 @ 03:14 AM
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Originally posted by mikelee
Many think Bradley manning released the State Department documents. That is not true.


I for one am under the impression that the cables came from Bradley Manning, in fact I have read many reports here on ATS in regards to the cables saying that Bradley Manning was the man behind the wiki-leaks.

Can anyone else confirm that Bradley did not release the cables to Julian?
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posted on Dec, 15 2010 @ 03:16 AM
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You can do this yourself, simply search the internet for who released the memos. Its pretty clear Manning did not. Matter of fact, the gov does not know either.
The ONLY classified info Manning provided to Wikileaks was the footage of the reuters reporters being gunned down by the Apache gunship.

This is why no one has spoken of Manning in public and by not doing so, it plays into the government's hand in this matter of the State Department cables and it's warpath cry for censorship & secrecy. The gov got caught with it's pants down on this one and anyone is fair game here. If they had any guts, they'd fire Clinton as head of the State Department to what amounts to a breech of security at the least.
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posted on Dec, 15 2010 @ 03:51 AM
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Of course Manning did not release those files. Perhaps it is time to give the clowns at the DOD some refreshing news....

ANY 14 year old can hack your systems. Especially with you guys giving out SIPRnet credentials like candy.
Fact is that porn is more interesting on the net than old men talking lies and gossiping about each other.

Their incompetence is just laughable and I am sure that they know. Of course it's easier to blame some employee then to look at the facts and fix them. Hell I would almost volunteer to assist them finding their weaknesses so they can fix them. PM me if interested



posted on Dec, 15 2010 @ 04:33 AM
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lol, Forbes did an article on Project Vigilant?


Agreenberg 4 months ago[-]

I'm the reporter who wrote the initial post on Project Vigilant after meeting Uber at Defcon, and I'm eager to talk. I've attempted to follow up with him but haven't heard back.

Can you email me at agreenberg@forbes.com?



IAmA Volunteer for "Project Vigilant." AMAA

and then there's this:

Applied Information Theory

Who wants to take the red pill?

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posted on Dec, 15 2010 @ 07:46 AM
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Bradly is the unfortunate patsy. Here is a link to an army intelligence file that argues it is not good to let these leaks go unpunished. www.bibliotecapleyades.net...

People might find the fortitude to start reporting on other problems if they are not feared into silence.



posted on Dec, 21 2010 @ 08:49 AM
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Originally posted by mikelee
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You can do this yourself, simply search the internet for who released the memos. Its pretty clear Manning did not. Matter of fact, the gov does not know either.
The ONLY classified info Manning provided to Wikileaks was the footage of the reuters reporters being gunned down by the Apache gunship.

This is why no one has spoken of Manning in public and by not doing so, it plays into the government's hand in this matter of the State Department cables and it's warpath cry for censorship & secrecy. The gov got caught with it's pants down on this one and anyone is fair game here. If they had any guts, they'd fire Clinton as head of the State Department to what amounts to a breech of security at the least.
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I believe this may be correct.

At first we had "Collateral Damage", and then there were whispers that there were about a quarter million cables to be released from the State Dept. Then, Manning is arrested for Collateral Damage, and implicated by using statements like, "Manning isn't related to the cables...or IS HE???". Nothing of substance. Assange, himself, even directly says that Manning did not provide him the cables.

It is like someone simply implicated him by proxy, and then let the public make its own assumptions. Soon enough, speculation became fact, and Manning is convicted in the public for being an Urban Legend.



posted on Dec, 21 2010 @ 08:54 AM
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Well stated BFFT.

BTW, like the new avatar.

I remember when this whole issue began there were hints that "someone else" was involved with Manning, then it turns out to be none other than Lamo himself whom has contacts by proxy of him being arrested for hacking with the FBI. That association would translate (in my opinion) into the agency contacting other State Department officials looking to isolate Clinton from any fallout of what amounts to leaked classified data. I believe they used the Lamo connection in this case to place it all on Manning and have an accomplice to testify against Manning. Which is what Lamo here equates into for a stronger government case against Manning. Without Lamo, there isn't much of a case other than an Article 31 and perhaps a few months in jail. State Department officials have maintained that they are still not certain just how Manning got into the system but with Lamo, I'm sure they'll "find out".

I can't help but think it's strange that here we have a noted, convicted and very effective pro hacker involved yet Manning is widely believed to be just an average computer user with no special skills that would provide him with the ability nor skills to hack into any system such as the State Department's.
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posted on Dec, 21 2010 @ 09:15 AM
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Kevin Poulsen is another convicted hacker.

When the Manning chat logs broke, it was Lamo reporting Manning to the govt, then giving Poulsen the scoop over at wired.

It's the chat logs that have everyone convinced that Manning did it.



posted on Dec, 21 2010 @ 09:52 AM
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With all of the technology today that the fedgov runs and has, they rely on instant messege chat logs to verify that Manning did it? That was done by Lamo to cover his behind for what he knew would eventually happen, Lamo contacted Poulsen only because he found out Manning really did go ahead and release the classified memos but only AFTER he spoke with Manning. Lamo had already served time for hacking and was looking to set in place, a trail that invetigators could track and Lamo knew exactly how to do that...By using a well known IM program. Or that was how he was istructed to create his back-story.
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posted on Dec, 21 2010 @ 01:45 PM
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This had me perked, if indeed there were no usb drives or access to those machines, but I checked and there were.
That would lead one to have to reconsider that he did not do it.
The SIRPNET web user guide I saw made it look like all they had was infrared, which was often disabled with duck tape.

In fact, there had been another incident previously over there with usb drives and malware. They did have CAC, USB and DVD/CD access IN those machines.
:/
Back to square 1. The thing is, the chat logs has ALWAYS bugged me. Also the sheer volume of information downloaded - bugs me.

I am glad that I am not on Manning's jury. I am glad a lot of the cables came to light. That said, I'd have to question if he were really trying to bring light to wrongs, as I don't think he could have READ all the cables that he leaked. I would FEEL BETTER if he had released only ones he took issue with where there was clear corruption/pedophilia coverups/ starving 2.5 million people, that sort of thing.



posted on Dec, 21 2010 @ 03:13 PM
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Anytime a flashdrive (or any other hardware device) is connected to a system terminal, the event is logged. So I have an issue with who was monitoring the system that day/night as well as why didn't the government catch whomever did it in the first place. Again, catching the offender once the device was attached + the time it took to download all of the data. We ain't talking about seconds here, we are talking about 15 to 25 minutes at least to download all of the data that was stolen then eventually released.



posted on Dec, 31 2010 @ 01:38 PM
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The chat logs published by Wired show Manning talking about 260,000 documents, and mentioning Julian Assange by name.

www.wired.com...

It's blatantly obvious that Manning was responsible.

I personally don't think he should be prosecuted. I think he should be protected under whistleblowing laws.

The UN has backed Manning, as have some European countries. However, right-wing nutjob America would execute him in a heartbeat, not to mention Assange and anyone else associated with Wikileaks.

I just wish Manning hadn't been so stupid as to boast about this. He could have easily leaked the cables, kept it quiet, and no one would ever have known it was him. Unless of course, they found out from the file logs on military computers (which I'm assuming they logged).



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