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10 Aircraft Carriers - 10 Horns of Revelation Connection?

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posted on Jul, 4 2004 @ 09:41 PM
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In no way is this post intent on offending anyone from any race, nationality or religion. This is just an exercise in the metaphorical interpretations of the Book of Revelations.

Could the Book of Revelations possibly point out the damage that will be done to one of the U.S. aircraft carriers that are currently deployed in support of Summer Pulse '04?



Excerpt the book of Revelations (KJV):
[13:1] And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a
beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten
horns
, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads
the name of blasphemy. [13:2] And the beast which I saw
was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as [the feet] of a
bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon
gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.
[13:3] And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to
death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world
wondered after the beast. [13:4] And they worshipped the
dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they
worshipped the beast, saying, Who [is] like unto the beast?
who is able to make war with him?



One of the beasts' seven heads will be damaged then healed by the dragon (China perhaps?). What does this do to the beasts' horns if anything? Maybe aircraft carriers can appear as horns, and the super-structures on these ships can appear as crowns.

With all the ships currently out there, not just aircraft carriers, but their entire support groups also--along with all the Chinese ships and other countries ships, something is bound to happen. The U.S. ships watch their ships, their ships watch back. Cat and mouse - just like during the Cold War. If everything goes according to Murphy's Law, there will likely be a naval accident or an unplanned escalation in tensions between the U.S. and China.

Please feel free to comment.




posted on Jul, 4 2004 @ 09:58 PM
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Interesting thought but, probably not.

Aside from my problems with the book of Revelation, that I have laid out many times, the heads and horns sound more like submarines than carriers.

One should also remember that the ICBM launching missile subs can do absolutely ungodly evil, namely the destruction of the entire planet if they all were to launch. I don't think even Carriers could have the potential for that kind of devistation on such a large scale so easily.

I've said many times before that I don't think that the end times will ever happen and certainly not now. However with the launching of all of the American fleets I wonder how many of the missile subs are at sea too.

Finally there's probably not going to be an accident or incident with China, both sides have too much to loose and China's government is more calculating then emotional. Maybe, and it's a streach, an American carrier could be dammaged by terrorists, and repaired by the Chinese, but that's very unlikely, given the support shiled of ships surrounding the carriers and the unwillingness of the Americans to let the Chinese get their hands upon a carrier even if it was to repair it, too much tech to loose.

May Peace Travel With You
~Astral



posted on Jul, 4 2004 @ 09:59 PM
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Just realized... 10 carriers are deployed but 7 are within striking distance of China.
See:
www.abovetopsecret.com...

So if I want to metaphorically link this to the seven heads, then it makes even more sense.
Hmmm.

Can we expect one of the carriers to be damaged or worse?



posted on Jul, 4 2004 @ 10:02 PM
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Just saw your post Astral, thanks for commenting.



posted on Jul, 4 2004 @ 10:04 PM
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There are NOT 10 Carriers Deployed. I don't know where you get your info from but it is incorrect. So this pretty much blows your seven heads thing apart also. What carriers figured into your seven???



posted on Jul, 4 2004 @ 10:12 PM
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and the dragon
gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.


The dragon would be the Illuminati/Reptilian connection most likely. As a dragon is reptilian. They are believe to be in control of most countries including those who are sending the carriers out.

I think what this means is that one will be hurt by a terrorist attack possibly and people will rally behind the country who owned the carrier.



posted on Jul, 4 2004 @ 10:34 PM
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Well, there are 10 that are deployed. Seven are in support of Summer Pulse '04.
Check out:
www.news.navy.mil...

The other three are in support of other operations.

www.chinfo.navy.mil...

Question for cccchunt: Just curious, but did DSS do your background investigation - or did you give yourself your own security clearance? You must know something I do not, so you must have filled out your own EPSQ, investigated yourself, and granted yourself a clearance. How else do you personally know the location of these carriers? If you don't know the acronyms, then maybe you should relax and try to enjoy an inciteful discussion. How droll.



posted on Jul, 4 2004 @ 10:47 PM
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I can look out my frickin window and see one of the carriers right now that you say is deployed!! I live in hawaii but I suppose some people might list that as deployed. There are over 6 differant nations navies in Pearl Harbor right now for RIMPAC. It happens every 2 years and everyone on this board and others freaks out about it and says we are going to invade. Every 2 years the wacko's pull out revelations and start quoting!! What you always fail to mention is that there are NO more carriers "deployed" right now than there have been in the past.

As for my clearance, you don't even have a clue so I don't know why you brought it up. It's NOT me that is linking to unclass web pages. I am not sure what your background is exactly but because of the Naval Billet I currently hold which I will not disclose, I more than likely have a clearance higher than you know of. An EPSQ is tiny compared to what clearance info I have filled out. I'll leave it at that. And ANOTHER Mis-statement by you..... Everyone fills out their own EPSQ and then it is reviewed and processed.

So, yes I do have the clearance to know these things and will not pass them on.



posted on Jul, 4 2004 @ 11:10 PM
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Look cccchunt,

I am not going to start an argument with you as to the validity of official U.S. Navy press releases. It doesn't matter if one carrier on the list of vessels in support of Summer Pulse '04 is in port or not. The U.S. Navy press release names 7 carriers. What would you like me to say? The Revelations "crap" you refer to is a topic of much heated discussion. I was not not my intent to imply that the U.S. Navy has ANY involvement in the Book of Revelations. I don't believe the U.S. Navy, the sailors or the United States of America is evil. This thread was made to incite discussion about metaphors in Revelations - not to personally attack anyone's beliefs.

Now, if you would have come forth with the info that you could see one of the carriers out of your window, then that would have been beneficial to this discussion.

I would like to take this opportunity to thank cccchunt for his courage and service to OUR country. In fact, there are thousands of U.S. Forces deployed throughout the world in harm's way. I wish them all speed and safe return. Happy 4th of July cccchunt.


As for me, I wish I had not begun this thread. I meant no disrespect to anyone.



posted on Jul, 4 2004 @ 11:13 PM
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One must also though take into account that the use of numbers in the bible are not always ment to be taken litterally, which can be hard to comprehend for English speaking people.

Instead of meaning that the beast actually had seven heads, it probably means to tell some atribute about the beast. Much the same way where Christ is supposed to come back as a multi-headed lamb. Numbers were treated differently in the Hebrew language as well as in latan and other local writes.

I'm not sure right now what the exact meaning of the numbers in Revelation are, but there have been several papers written on the subject and I'll look into them.

One should probably look at the passage more as metaphore than as a litteral meaning. While you look at the meanings of the heads, horns and crowns figuratively, I think the numbers themselves should be seen the same way.

Blessed Be
~Astral



posted on Jul, 4 2004 @ 11:18 PM
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Interesting thought Astral. Numerology 101.

Thanks,
TC



posted on Jul, 5 2004 @ 08:25 AM
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This argument is exactly what's wrong with this whole site! It doesn't matter which thread you view, someone always comes in to bite someone's head off. These message boards, at least I think, are designed for people to share information and corroborate....not to create heated arguments.



posted on Jul, 6 2004 @ 11:40 AM
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how are aircraft carriers going to be well liked followed and rule the world for 42 months??? yes they come from the sea and blahblahblah but they dont rule the world.



posted on Jul, 17 2004 @ 05:27 PM
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Excerpt the book of Revelations (KJV):
[13:1] And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a
beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten
horns
, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads
the name of blasphemy. [13:2] And the beast which I saw
was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as [the feet] of a
bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon
gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.
[13:3] And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to
death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world
wondered after the beast. [13:4] And they worshipped the
dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they
worshipped the beast, saying, Who [is] like unto the beast?
who is able to make war with him?


I always thought that the 10 crowns were 10 unified coutries - such as NATO or perhaps WTO? This would explain why the 10 crowns rest on 10 horns (horns are used to fight, so the horns could represent warring countries) all on one beast (a unified organization).

In regards to "And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to
death; and his deadly wound was healed". Perhaps this refers to a nuke going off in Washington D.C. or one of the other 10 countries' capitols'. For a country to be "wounded to
death" would indicate to me that the government might be destroyed in such a way that would result in the "death" of the country.

Also, the beast which looks "like a leopard, and his feet were as [the feet] of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion" - perhaps it is a reference to a country's flag...such as Scotland's for example:


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posted on Jul, 18 2004 @ 09:56 AM
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I always thought that the 10 crowns were 10 unified coutries - such as NATO or perhaps WTO? This would explain why the 10 crowns rest on 10 horns (horns are used to fight, so the horns could represent warring countries) all on one beast (a unified organization).


On retrospect, the beast is probably an organization such as NATO, WTO? that consists of seven countries (heads) that have 10 armies (crowned horns).



posted on Jul, 18 2004 @ 03:11 PM
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Okay, ten horns hmmm. Ten nations, okay I got a theory:

The G8, or more appropriately the G10. See the G7 added China to become the G8, which are basically the countries that economically rule the world already so here's what I think will happen.

The G8 expands to the G10 eventually, by adding say India and maybe Australia, the countires rule the world economically for a while (I think 42 months is just ment as a longer measure of time instead of 3.5 years) before there is a change.

The argument being that greed is the evil.

Well I really don't think it's going to happen or anything but that's the most logical answer I could think of.

Blessed Be
~Astral



posted on Jul, 18 2004 @ 03:28 PM
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I think the " ten horns " could be the original
10 member European Union. They all had crowns
at one time or another, they control the world
with "old" money.



posted on Jul, 18 2004 @ 03:35 PM
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I'd say that America's cash and that of Japan and China would be needed too though. I don't care how old your money is when you don't have enough of it.

Europe can defend itself well enough and is a bastion when it comes to their economy but they could never take over without the US and Aisa behind em.

May Peace Travel With You
~Astral



posted on Jul, 18 2004 @ 05:23 PM
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Originally posted by The Astral City
I'd say that America's cash and that of Japan and China would be needed too though. I don't care how old your money is when you don't have enough of it.

Europe can defend itself well enough and is a bastion when it comes to their economy but they could never take over without the US and Aisa behind em.

May Peace Travel With You
~Astral


Europe had the first stock market (London), they had the
first central banks and still own most of the World's Gold
and Silver.

Old money built the United States, Canada and Australia
not to mention an empire where the sun never sets.
That much money never dies.....just collects interest.



posted on Jul, 19 2004 @ 12:26 PM
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Interesting...I was researching the WTO and discovered that it is headquartered in Switzerland. Isn't Switzerland a neutral state?

and they
worshipped the beast, saying, Who [is] like unto the beast?
who is able to make war with him?
Who indeed could make war with a neutral state such as Switzerland?
ref:www.wto.org...

Even more interesting...

And the beast which I saw
was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as [the feet] of a
bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon
gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.

Here are a few of Switzerland's flags throughout history:




You can find these flags here:
www.eda.admin.ch...



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