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When Is Theft Not Theft?

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posted on Dec, 14 2010 @ 11:52 AM
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Bank A wanted to help society by issuing low interest adjustable rate mortgages to people who had no jobs and were horrible credit risks.

Bank A was doing the "Lord's work," according to Bernanke, by making home ownership possible for poor people.

Of course, those same poor people ended up defaulting on their mortgages after the housing bubble imploded, which was created by the ultra low rate loans and super-easy credit manufactured by the Federal Reserve bank.

Doesn't Bank A deserve to be bailed out at tax payer expense for doing "the Lord's work?"

Doesn't society owe a bailout to Bank A, who was simply trying to help poor people own their own homes?

Shouldn't Bank A's CEO get millions in bonuses for putting so many poor people into their own homes?

OF COURSE THEY SHOULD!

So, this begs the question of who should be made to pay for Bank A's accomplishments.

Clearly the answer is YOU. Since Bank A was doing "the Lord's work" on behalf of society, society must be made to pay for Bank A's bailout at gun point.

While some of you may scream that this is tantamount to theft - I argue otherwise. Clearly it is not theft because government is the one doing the looting, therefore it is simply taxation. Theft is when you or I try to take money that doesn't belong to us by force. Taxation is when government takes money that doesn't belong to it by force (for the 'common good' of course).

Whether you agree with actions taken by the Fed or Bank A is immaterial. Government does all sorts of things that most people don't agree with.

For example, if you don't agree with funding the military occupation of foreign countries, you must still be made to pay for this because "society" has decided this is in your best interest whether you like it or not.

If you don't agree with paying for other people's retirements, you must still be made to pay for this because "society" has decided this is in your best interest whether you like it or not.

If you don't agree with paying for the imprisonment of people who smoke marijuana, you must still be made to pay for this because "society" has decided this is in your best interest whether you like it or not.

There's all sorts of things most of us don't agree with, yet since elected politicians have decided you should spend money on these things, you must be forced to spend money on such things.

This is the only possible way to run society without it devolving into Somalia.




posted on Dec, 14 2010 @ 12:46 PM
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Sorry:

"Lord'swork"?

"Devils work"
How about Bernanke hand me a couple of hundred thousand$ with few to no strings attached. In my opinion( which is just as valid as his opinion in this instance) that's also doing the "Lords work"..

Borrowing others property (money) with little to no intention of returning it
(i.e "defaulting" )

is theft through Fraud.

I don't have the right to steal from you so I cannot possibly transfer something I do not have to any elected official.



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posted on Dec, 14 2010 @ 12:47 PM
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Mayor of Springfield IL has shot himself over back taxes.

Fox News reports:

Records show that Mayor Davlin owes the federal government nearly $90,000 in unpaid income taxes and liens have been filed against his home.

The lien notice filed in the Sangamon County recorder’s office shows Davlin owes income taxes for the years 2003, 2005 and 2006.

The (Springfield) State Journal-Register reports that the mayor blames the problem on a dispute with the IRS over taxes owed on investments he cashed in to buy the home.


Now why would he kill himself?

That deprives the State of his much needed labor.

How is he supposed to pay his debt to society if he is dead?

This is an outrage.

We need to ban suicides, because bans work.



posted on Dec, 14 2010 @ 12:51 PM
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Originally posted by 46ACE
reply to post by mnemeth1
 

Sorry:

"Lord'swork"?

"Devils work"
How about Bernanke hand me a couple of hundred thousand$ with few to no strings attached. In my opinion( which is just as valid as his opinion in this instance) that's also doing the "Lords work"..
Borrowing others property (money) with little to no intention of returning it
(i.e defaulting


is theft through Fraud.
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I'm sorry, it was actually Goldman Sachs CEO Lloyd Blankfein that said he was doing "God's work"

blogs.wsj.com...



posted on Dec, 14 2010 @ 12:53 PM
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when it cant be proven and no ones caught



posted on Dec, 14 2010 @ 01:02 PM
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Originally posted by mnemeth1

We need to ban suicides, because bans work.




I was going to state what the FR is doing is considered theft but meh, all the same thing..

I will address this comment. Suicide is illegal in most places.. Just because you dont agree with it dont make it wrong to do so, if suicide wasn't possible those people on Flight 93 would have crashed into wherever to place was going..

See suicide in a good light...
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posted on Dec, 14 2010 @ 01:21 PM
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To the violent statists in our midst:

If I calculated out the exact proportion of my federal taxes that went to fund what I consider to be illegal wars, and then refused to pay that portion of my taxes, would you convict me in a jury trial and sentence me to prison?

If not, would you let me go if I did the same thing for all the other federal regulations I despise?

If you would convict me, what if I was your father or brother? Would you still convict me? Answer honestly.




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