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Originally posted by Lil Drummerboy
reply to post by kevinunknown
Hello Kevinunkown.
Does your country allow its peoples to have guns?.
if no then why not
This thread clearly shows that neither the Brits or the Americans are ever going to be able to change the thoughts and minds of the other. I myself carry for self defense. 7 years ago, I would have felt safer walking the streets of the UK, than I would the US. After living here in the US for nigh on 7 years, personally, I still would....for now. However, when reading more and more about the crime in the UK rising (whether it be knife, gun, or just physical assault) I can honestly say I am beginning to feel safer here in the US, knowing that, if it wasnt for myself carrying, then there maybe someone around me who is. Who has gone through the required training to carry concealed, has passed the fairly intensive FBI background check (at least, thats the procedure here in this state) and more than likely is not a crazed whackjob, and actually goes to the range on a fairly regular basis to get practice.
I came to the US, thinking the streets were paved with gold, it was the land of opportunity and everyone loved everyone..(alright, that last bit was an exaggeration, but you get my drift). I did not expect to face the high crime rate in the cities here, and I certainly did not expect to end up carrying, pretty much 24/7 (except for them damn blasted CPZ's). When you have lived here, and walked in these shoes, and seen the types of crime here, compared to the UK, then maybe, just maybe, your mind may change. I know mine did So in closing, I really think that people carrying for self defense is a good thing. Chances are, if some crazed loon goes nuts and starts shooting up people in a mall, then the 1 person who may be carrying legally and for self defense of themselves and others, would be able to end that confrontation a lot more quickly, than having to wait for the police and the loon laying waste to more and more people, eventually, more than likely, taking his own life after maximum deaths.
Brits and Americans are never going to get over there love/hate relationships of guns or lack thereof. These are my own thoughts, and if you want to interpret them as you want, then go ahead. Quite frankly, I dont care what either side think. I'm just giving my opinon.
nope,.
Originally posted by Freeborn
Originally posted by Lil Drummerboy
reply to post by kevinunknown
Hello Kevinunkown.
Does your country allow its peoples to have guns?.
if no then why not
I think that's been explained several times already in this thread.
Obviously you haven't bothered to read it before posting.
Originally posted by Freeborn
reply to post by Lil Drummerboy
Because I want to and because I can.
Do you have a problem with that?
Originally posted by arbitrarygeneraiist
reply to post by Brood
Replace gun violence instead with knife violence, broken liquor bottle turned into a makeshift shiv violence, run a person over with a car violence, and so on and so forth, and you still have the same issue of violence, only with other forms of weaponry.
Originally posted by Brood
Every developed country other than the United States has firearm prohibition laws and is under a 1% gun violence rate, where the United States has more than triple those rates (six times higher than that of Canada).
You people who say that there is no correlation between gun violence and gun ownership are simply... liars.
Originally posted by zerbot565
reply to post by Brood
what about heat / warm summer days ?
you do know that during hotter times of the year people tend to do more crime , should we ban people from venturing to warmer places then whats the norm where you live geographicly speaking,
i mean you bring up one factor , one factor and that is that in order to do gun crime to need to have a firearm ,
yes very logical thinking but so is my allegory of hot summer days ,
but wait now we have two factors , warm days and owing a gun , what more factors can be put in to play before we acturly have a homicide scenario ?
come on be a bit more imaginative , .
Originally posted by Brood
You people who say that there is no correlation between gun violence and gun ownership are simply... liars.
Originally posted by Brood
reply to post by hawkiye
you're hung up on the lie that I am from England. I am not going to respond to you anymore because I have told you this three times now. Stop it.