Originally posted by weedwhacker
reply to post by Byrd
Still....pieces of a big puzzle, need someone to correlate the timeline....difficult, due to a lot of uncertainty, of course, of exact sequences and
order of occurrence.
Nah. Just takes a bit of tracking down and looking at other similar floods -- like the one that created "The Scablands" at the end of the last Ice
Age. Although massive, it didn't contribute more than an inch or so to the sea level rise (if that.)
Of course, the "legends" of all cultures, to include (I must emphasize) the over-simplistic children's story of "Noah" can serve as
disparate clues, once one removes the emotional attachments that sometimes are associated with "religious" fables.
Folklore is something I love and study, and you really can't connect those well (I've been looking at some cladistic tools for them.) The Flood
myths are not universal -- they're found in areas where you do get flooding, however... so the Inuit, for instance, don't have a Flood Myth nor do
Archaeology, and the continued increase in technologies used to study the signs of ancient settlements found jsu toff the coasts, underwater,
all will contribute. A rational, neutral clearing-house repository of all these discoveries, and a way to sort them as "improbable", "probable",
"likely", etc could be useful.
They will, but I should tell you that except in a very few cases, almost none of the underwater settlements was submerged suddenly. The yearly
increase in the ocean from the warming of the climate (25,000-10,000 years ago) was not that great... a scale of inches in most places. Feet in a
few. You could walk away from the effects.
I don't know the timeline (might be way too ancient, pre-dating any Human histories) but the Straits of Gibraltar have always struck me a
suspicious. Not that the Mediterranean formed immediately FROM that breach, but a possibility that the Sea was much smaller, and grew rapidly as a
result of a fairly sudden widening of the gap, in the Straits.
Last I saw, the timeline was very long (a thousand years or more) -- which makes sense. If you look at the overall geography of the Scablands (the
largest flood that there is any solid geological evidence for: en.wikipedia.org...
) a huge surge of drainage like that
causes some very clear marks on the landscape. I wouldn't be surprised to find some settlements down there, but I think they will be consistent with
the types of settlements we see elsewhere around the Mediterranean.
If you explore the maps on Christopher Scotese's wonderful Earth History Maps site, you'll see that the area has been a sea for quite some time:
The maps are based on geological evidence and are the best understanding we have of how the Earth looked in
different ages (in other words, you don't get limestone forming on dry ground since it's made up of the bodies of microscopic sea life. Nor do you
get basalt forming in the ocean unless here's a volcano around.)
It would have changed, yes, during tens of thousands of years... rivers and lakes come and go (they're not permanent) but you can get some sense of
what's going on.
I know that the Islands of Japan have some ingriguing underwater sites....we seem to be missing (or, I've never heard of) any reports form
that other very old, long-lived culture, that also has a presence on the shores of oceans...China!
I've seen the evidence and I have a very hard time believing that a civilization would build structures with no doors and no windows and no chambers
(which are the same stone as the rock they're sitting on.) Basalt does fracture columnarly ... I agree with the geologists (having seen other
formations with my own eyes) that this one is geological and not anthropological in nature.
China, for what it's worth, has a long documented history that's at least as old as the Middle Eastern cultures. Folks just tend to ignore it.