Originally posted by getreadyalready
We draw our roots, lessons, and allegories from Sacred Geometry, Religion, and Tradition of Morality that predates the New Testament and may extend
all the way into Antiquity. The Building of King Solomon's Temple is the cornerstone of our craft. It is certainly no coincidence, but neither is it
anything nefarious or secret. This is my favorite part of Freemasonry. It is one of the few things still connected to our ancient past, and still
teaching some of the knowledge that was somehow lost and recovered with new science. Pythagoras was probably a Mason among many of other
mathematicians and scientists that have built our modern paradigm.
I think thats one of the reasons I find it all so interesting. How its all connected and goes across time, cultures, and religions. If its the
building of the temple that intrigues you then I see no issue, but if its the esoteric side of the temple's renovations made by King Manasseh, then
that could be considered a sinister aspect.
"He rebuilt the high places his father Hezekiah had destroyed; he also erected altars to Baal and made an Asherah pole, as Ahab king of Israel had
done. He bowed down to all the starry hosts and worshiped them. He built altars in the temple of the LORD, of which the LORD had said, “In Jerusalem
I will put my Name.” In the two courts of the temple of the LORD, he built altars to all the starry hosts. He sacrificed his own son in the fire,
practiced divination, sought omens, and consulted mediums and spiritists. He did much evil in the eyes of the LORD, arousing his anger.
He took the carved Asherah pole he had made and put it in the temple, of which the LORD had said to David and to his son Solomon, “In this temple
and in Jerusalem, which I have chosen out of all the tribes of Israel, I will put my Name forever. I will not again make the feet of the Israelites
wander from the land I gave their ancestors, if only they will be careful to do everything I commanded them and will keep the whole Law that my
servant Moses gave them.” But the people did not listen. Manasseh led them astray, so that they did more evil than the nations the LORD had
destroyed before the Israelites."
- 2 Kings 21:3-9
I'm not sure where exactly Freemasonry stands, but as odd or disgusting as it may sound, I believe that the carved Asherah pole symbolizes a penis in
order to honor the fertility goddess. That the fertility goddess is an esoteric symbol of the earth and humanity that becomes impregnated with the
seed, blessing, knowledge of the spirit behind the idol, when it is pleasured, coaxed, worshipped, in order to be reborn again from the earth with a
higher state of consciousness, give birth to that consciousness, or eventually, in a literal sense, produce the Anti-christ. The pole is the same as
the obelisks seen all around the world such as the Washington Monument and some found in Masonic lodges. If you can see where I come from, you can see
my accusations are not at Freemasons, but exposing the spirits leading people to believe they can overcome lifes burdens and flaws through their own
efforts of initiating into an agreement with an external force besides God. Although, they would claim to be him.
Yes, we "communicate that which cannot be taught" according to one website. We teach and learn without writing things down. "“Freemasonry
is a Peculiar System of Morality Veiled in Allegory and Illustrated by Symbols" according to one of our lectures. We teach and learn through
symbolism and allegory. It is an certainly an "ancient manner of teaching." Although many Lodges now have websites and Google Groups,
If you teach and learn about a system of morality that you find acceptable enough to follow, why veil it? Not saying that you do this because your
sharing with me lol. Why not present, while not being religiously obnoxious, your moral system to people?
One can only hope that our lives will be thus remembered, but this does not mean we seek to be Gods in a physical sense. It only means that
the light of Masonry should serve as a beacon of morality, and our primary tenets (there are three) serve to help the community.
Why veil a beacon?
Every man joins Masonry for his own reasons. The reason should not be selfish, such as networking into a job or business, and it should never
be to become a "superman." We join Masonry to be surrounded by like-minded, high caliber men, and to improve ourselves. The improvement has to be at
a spiritual level, because we all know that any other type of improvement is only superficial.
I can see the improvements that would come from a group of educated men organized in helping each other maintain their morals and studying history,
but I'm interested in learning about the spiritual knowledge being presented to Freemasons, if any?
First of all, how do we ever know anything is the "right" choice? I sure have made a whole lot of choices that felt right, but I later
regretted! Masonry is not one of those! I have had nothing but GREAT experiences from it. My desire to join came from my quest for ancient
knowledge, and a desire to be part of such an old and noble group. I also wanted to become a Shriner, because I wear some serious burn scars, and I
thought as a Shriner I could give some kids with burns a good example of how well they can still do for themselves. You have to be a Mason before you
can be a Shriner. I have certainly become a better man as a result of lessons and contacts within Freemasonry. I am certainly a little more
enlightened, although it is more in an historical sense than a spiritual one.
Usually your conscious is a good guide, but it can sometimes be misleading. What ancient knowledge were you interested in learning about? I really
admire your motives for joining the organization too. I hope your happiliy helping kids. I'm happy to hear that you learned more in a historical
sense. History can tell us alot more about the truth than the various so-called spiritual doctrines of the day concocted by mislead humans and
Really, someone could become a better man, simply by hanging around the old men in a Mason's lodge. If there was no degree work, no allegory,
no symbolism, there would still be an excellent group of older, wiser, more experienced men in one place and willing to mentor you. That alone is
well worth the price of admission!
I don't doubt it. I would love to sit around a group of elders and listen to their experienced perspectives. You have certainly helped in giving me a
clearer and less sinister view of Freemasonry. I was biased before, especially when I thought the 33rd degree meant the Mason had official credentials
to speak for Freemasonry. I hope you consider some of the things I've said also, and thanks for reading.
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