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Who Really Owns the World?

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posted on Dec, 13 2010 @ 03:59 AM
All the time you hear people claiming that most of the debt of the United States is owned by the People's Republic of China. You hear about future takeovers and economic collapses.

Originally I, like the rest of the uninitiated masses, thought this could be true.
Come to find out it is a pure myth.

As of September 2010, the United States of America had a total outstanding debt of around $13.5 trillion.

Of that $13.5 trillion, the People's Republic of China, as of July 2010, owns almost $850 billion.

Well that isn't even 10% of the debt.

All foreign holders, inluding Japan and China, combined equal around $4 trillion as of July 2010 or less than 33% of our total debt.

That leaves over $9 trillion in debt, but to who?

I learned that the majority of our national debt is owned by an American Institution, the central banking system of the United States of America, better known as the Federal Reserve. As of June 2010, the system holds over $5 trillion of the national debt.

At this point I decided to look up the national debt of the People's Republic of China and behold they have debt,
$350 billion worth.

Check this out:

Chinese facing debt time bomb

Separate reports by Citigroup and Victor Shih of Northwestern University warn that the Chinese government may be forced to bail out banks that made loans for government-backed projects under the huge stimulus programme put together at the height of the financial crisis in 2008...

Professor Shih and the author of the other report, Shen Minggao of Citigroup, have identified 2011 as the crunch point when the Chinese Government may have to engineer a bailout.

Now what about Japan, our second largest holder of US debt? They have $9.7 trillion of debt, almost twice its Gross Domestic Product.

The same scenario continues on with the UK and practically every other foreign holder of US debt.

The vast majority of the debt is public debt. Much of this public debt is owned by central banks as is the case in the US, China, and Japan. There is almost $60 trillion in debt worldwide among all of these institutions.

Here is where things kind of get interesting. The central banks themselves are linked by a global banking entity.
This "Bank for Central Banks" is known as the Bank for International Settlements.

The BIS reports to no government and is accountable to no one, even the UN.

From the BIS website:

The Bank for International Settlements (BIS) was established as an international financial institution, enjoying special immunities, pursuant to the Hague Agreements of 20th January 1930.
The founder shareholding members were the central banks of Belgium, France, Germany, Italy,
Japan, the United Kingdom and the United States (the Federal Reserve did not take up its rights as
founder member until 1994). Within two years of its founding, nineteen other European central
banks had subscribed to the Bank's capital. The Bank opened its doors in Basle, Switzerland on
17th May 1930.

Its Board of Directors are the Governors of the central banks of the United States, the UK, France, Belgium, Germany, Italy, Brazil, Canada, China, Japan, the Netherlands, Sweden, Switzerland, and the European Union's central bank the ECB. The Board is dominated by six "Ex Officio" members: The US, UK, France, Belgium, Germany, and Italy. The other members are elected.

What is left out on the history from the website is its involvement with the Third Reich. A number of Nazi officials served on its Board of Directors, including the Reich's finance minister, and it was even suspected of helping the Nazis during WW2. It should be noted that during the war, the BIS purchased over 9,000 kilos of gold from the Reichsbank.

At the end of WW2, during the Bretton Woods Conference, due to BIS involvement with the Third Reich, it was decided that the BIS should be dissolved and liquidated. President Franklin Roosevelt approved the liquidation of the BIS, but Roosevelt died before the BIS could be dissolved. President Harry Truman suspended the liquidation and the BIS survived.

During the Bretton Woods System, the BIS operated in the background. The IMF and World Bank group for the most part managed the Global Financial System. This all changed in 1971, when Nixon effectively killed the Bretton Woods System. Since the end of the Bretton Woods System in 1971, the BIS has grown to prominence and its membership has exploded.They played a major role in the development of the European Union, European Central Bank and its currency the Euro.

On 13 September 1994, the United States Federal Reserve finally seats on the Board of Directors.
In October 1995 the BIS publishes a report on the impacts of electronic currency.
In October 1999 the BIS establishes the Central Bank Governance Network.
8 January 2001 the BIS limits shareholders to central banks only and buys back all privately held shares.
1 April 2003 the BIS changes its Unit of Account from the Gold Franc to the SDR or Special Drawing Right.
20 April 2009 the G-20 creates the Financial Stability Board, which is based at the BIS in Basel, Switzerland.

BIS history for 2010 is not yet available on the website. I assume it will be after New Years and include the G-20 summits and the project to make the BIS Unit of Account, the SDR, the global reserve currency that will replace the US dollar.

What this ultimately means is that China isn't going to be coming to the US to collect anytime soon. They are in the same boat as us, in debt and to extent bondage to our central banks and their global bank in Basel, Switzerland.

Like the Euro and European Central Bank before, the BIS and its central banks are laying the foundations for something big, the SDR as the new global reserve currency won't be anywhere close to the end of it.

Hopefully they have the world's best interests at heart.

BIS History

edit on 13/12/10 by MikeboydUS because: Add link

posted on Dec, 13 2010 @ 04:20 AM
Good post

What do you think would happen if every country just decided to not pay?

posted on Dec, 13 2010 @ 04:35 AM

Originally posted by squirelnutz
Good post

What do you think would happen if every country just decided to not pay?

Thats a good question.

In a hypothetical scenario where the ministries and departments of treasury failed to pay their central banks, I think the governments would be declared insolvent. Their national credit ratings would collapse, along with their currencies and economies.

The central banks would just sit back and let it burn. After about 72 hours of financial collapse, the people would have fits, looting, vandalizing, and pillaging.

It would be total anarchy. Most people don't like that though and would want order restored.

The central banks would offer recovery packages and put new governments in power. They could even establish their own governments.

Realistically, the whole world wouldn't do that at once. It has already happened on an individual basis though. The results are normally bailouts as seen in Argentina and Mexico. People can only tolerate so much chaos.
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posted on Dec, 13 2010 @ 05:10 AM
reply to post by MikeboydUS

Isnt that how it's going to turn out anyways?

All these countries borrowed massive amounts of money with no real plan on paying it back..

Why does the FRB let people run up outstanding debts?

posted on Dec, 13 2010 @ 05:24 AM

Originally posted by squirelnutz
reply to post by MikeboydUS

Isnt that how it's going to turn out anyways?

All these countries borrowed massive amounts of money with no real plan on paying it back..

Why does the FRB let people run up outstanding debts?

It probably will turn out that way in some cases.

I don't think the debts were ever intended to be paid off. The debt itself could be seen as an instrument of influence, control or even servitude.

At the same time I think the borrowing and lending is being encouraged in order to do two things.
1. Imperium Mundi: power over the world through debt
2. Create regional and global financial crises that require the introduction of a World Currency Unit.

posted on Dec, 13 2010 @ 06:11 AM
reply to post by MikeboydUS

Dear MikeboydUS,

Nice post, thank you for the information. S&F for you.


posted on Dec, 13 2010 @ 12:01 PM
Here's some more fun filled facts about the BIS.

From the article : The Most Powerful Bank You've Never Heard Of

Maybe we'd feel better about the BIS if it were more transparent, but most everything about it, including its bi-monthly member and board meetings, is shrouded in secrecy. And perhaps more worrisome is that the BIS is free from oversight. By rights granted under its agreement with the Swiss Federal Council, all of the bank's archives, documents and "any data media" are "inviolable at all times and in all places." Furthermore, officers and employees of BIS "enjoy immunity from criminal and administrative jurisdiction, save to the extent that such immunity is formally waived . . . even after such persons have ceased to be Officials of the Bank." Finally, no claims against BIS or its deposits may be enforced "without the prior agreement of the Bank."

Also from the BIS site: Agreement between the Swiss Federal Council and the Bank for International Settlements
to determine the Bank’s legal status in Switzerland

The buildings or parts of buildings and surrounding land which, whoever may be the owner thereof, are used for the purposes of the Bank shall be inviolable. No agent of the Swiss public authorities may enter therein without the express consent of the Bank. Only the President,2 the General Manager of the Bank, or their duly authorised representative shall be competent to waive such inviolability.

The Bank shall exercise supervision of and police power over its premises.

The BIS more or less functions as a sovereign autonomous entity within Switzerland's borders. It is tax exempt and not subject to various Swiss laws dealing with social welfare. Its members have diplomatic immunities and privileges. The various exemptions also not only apply to bank members but also their children and spouses.

This includes the Board made up of the Central Bank heads from around the world.

In a sense, members and their families, possess a type of supranational citizenship with rights and privileges above and beyond any nation's laws or regulations. They are subject to no one except the BIS and the BIS is subject to nothing on earth. Yet almost the entire earth is subject to it through its Board and the central banks of its members.

In the history of the world, there is nothing I can compare it to. This is a kind of power normally only dreamed of.

They claim their primary goals are stability and order.

Lets hope so, for the power they wield is close to absolute.

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