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Common history of Earth and Mars?

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posted on Jul, 4 2004 @ 02:17 PM
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Anyone here familiar with the research of Carl
P. Munck? He specializes in
"archaeocryptography", a field that studies if
the designs of ancient monuments have encoded
into their dimensions their locations. Anyone
not up on this subject will snort "numerology
horse#" and move on. On the other hand, as
is so often the case when studying these fringe
subjects, "something" is going on. This site
page explains the essence of the research in
more detail.

www.pyramidmatrix.com...

For latitude, ancient monuments were referenced
to the same (modern) equator. For longitude,
these monuments were referenced to a former
Giza, Egypt Prime Meridian - discovered by Munck
- that ran from pole to pole across the Great
Pyramid.

Now think about this for a moment. On every
continent, monuments, some dating back thousands
of years, were built in locations with
dimensions that convey the various builders all
had access to information that even today could
only be obtained by precise global positioning
requiring space age technology and satellite
triangulation.

What does all this mean? Quoting Munck:

"Atlanteans? Lemurians? Hyperboreans? Martians?
Don't assert it until we can prove it, and
forget looking for these architects in the
written records. They had clearly transcended
the need for writing, which, as common sense
shows, is both slow and cumbersome, the realm of
the truly primitive."

Why is this important to know? Well, many of the
images that Skipper has been posting at:
marsanomalyresearch.com... show "monuments"
that also have their locations encoded,
referenced to Martian geography, and the
mathematics of geometry apply also.

(Those of you who have visited:
www.enterprisemission.com... and studied
the Hyper dimensional Physics hypothesis
presented there know that Hoagland presents more
mathematical relationships than Munck uses in
archaeocryptography, but again the evidence is
that whoever these people are (aliens? time
travelers?) they are not primitives like us.

Now back to earth for a moment.
At this site:
www.pyramidmatrix.com...

the one of the many geoglyphs in that area is
discussed, and how its' design encodes its'
precise location on earth.

Some other geoglyphs are discussed here:
www.crystalinks.com...


Now back to Mars.
A number of Martian images taken from the
robotic spacecraft orbiting Mars show what
appear to be "marsglyphs", and every time they
have posted on the Internet at various sites
they have been ridiculed as joke images.

Here is an example:
marsanomalyresearch.com...
and this one I've mentioned in an earlier post:
marsanomalyresearch.com...

To summarize, clearly Earth history and Mars
history are somehow related, and the original
builders of these kind of monuments at least
think enough like us that we can understand a
little about what they were doing and why. I
suppose it is possible the different humanoid
and perhaps reptilian alien species all evolved
within this Solar System, with ancient
civilizations on one or the other planets
dating back millions of years having existed and
died out, to rise again, only to fall, and again.

Either that or we were all "seeded" in this
system by ETs from other parts of the galaxy.

These kind of subjects are enormously important,
yet are always ridiculed in the main stream media,
and ignored by orthodox scientists.

But the body of evidence for a common history
and perhaps common ancestry of Earth people
and Mars people is growing, and someday it
will be common knowledge.

(edited.. add paragraph below)

Forgot to include this web site in my original post.
www.greatdreams.com...
that describes in enough detail Carl Muncks'
decoding procedure with examples so you can
verify it yourself. Another point I'd like to make
is that Muncks' work has been available for
many years, and indeed Hoagland mentioned
him when addressing the United Nations back
in the early 90s about the Martian monuments.








[edit on 4-7-2004 by mockan]




posted on Jul, 4 2004 @ 06:44 PM
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I found a rather funny point in the last link:
(quoting)


In ancient Persia, a "talent" of gold was equal to 388800 grains. 388800 is what happens - exactly what happens - when we multiply MY-2 (7.396853329) by 52,562.89164, the grid longitude of Stonehenge. Who told them about that?


Um, what does this have to do with anything?

I mean, anybody could probably find lots of "signs" at any given place. Some people are probably unaware of that they were born 4th of April, the live on the 4th floor, in the 4th appartment, with 4 rooms, on Avenue 4th in the 4th city that was built in that country, which happens to have been discovered on the same date he/she was born exactly 444 years ago by 44 colonists from the 4th ship in the 4th fleet from another country.

Does this mean it has to be something extraordinary? Maybe it was what people often never accepts - coincidence. Chance.



posted on Jul, 4 2004 @ 08:05 PM
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Originally posted by RX84
I found a rather funny point in the last link:
(quoting)


In ancient Persia, a "talent" of gold was equal to 388800 grains. 388800 is what happens - exactly what happens - when we multiply MY-2 (7.396853329) by 52,562.89164, the grid longitude of Stonehenge. Who told them about that?


Um, what does this have to do with anything?

I mean, anybody could probably find lots of "signs" at any given place. Some people are probably unaware of that they were born 4th of April, the live on the 4th floor, in the 4th appartment, with 4 rooms, on Avenue 4th in the 4th city that was built in that country, which happens to have been discovered on the same date he/she was born exactly 444 years ago by 44 colonists from the 4th ship in the 4th fleet from another country.

Does this mean it has to be something extraordinary? Maybe it was what people often never accepts - coincidence. Chance.


Your observation is why I posted the first URL in the original post
where Munck explains why the numbers being used are important.
To phrase it differently in my own words:

In the sciences when one models real
world phenomena mathematically and the
model enables extrapolation of details of
the phenomena being studied, then the
model accurately (to some degree) is a
correct representation of reality.

Thus the difference from always coincidence.

This does not rule out coincidence, only that
it would be inconsistent with the other
observations pertaining to the encoding
procedure when applied to the thousands
of other discovered relationships of the
positional and dimensional data of the
monuments studied, with other aspects of
ancient culture.

Just another puzzle.

What you suggest is of course possible.
THAT specific example MAY indeed be coincidence.
As can any other as well.

But it would be difficult to understand ANY way
that a significant number of the observations
are merely coincidence, and this is a point
that Munck explains.



posted on Jul, 4 2004 @ 10:24 PM
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Interesting

What if someone found proof or have already found ancient proof about ETs "Seeding" earth(mars) or visited earth(mars) or something in that direction, would they tell us? or do the gov lock it in their huge Not Telling Public archive, hmm. This planet is some years old and I bet there is much here we have not discovered yet, and i dubt there is much people searching for that proof.



posted on Jul, 18 2004 @ 08:16 PM
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Originally posted by Cardu
Interesting

What if someone found proof or have already found ancient proof about ETs "Seeding" earth(mars) or visited earth(mars) or something in that direction, would they tell us? or do the gov lock it in their huge Not Telling Public archive, hmm. This planet is some years old and I bet there is much here we have not discovered yet, and i dubt there is much people searching for that proof.


I suspect the gov locks it up. Probably not needed since healthy
skepticism would prevent most people from dwelling on such subjects.
But there are groups of people who seem to live with an entirely
different level of awareness. Is it real? Who knows. Here is an example www.2012.com.au...



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