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Originally posted by zorgon
You might also want to look up the fact that Prescott Bush, Rockefellars and Standard Oil funded the NAZI's into power. That is history now and grandpappy Bush was sanctioned for trading with the enemy.. Union Bank shut down... don't have time to linky... it's easy to find
The discovery of the Bush-Nazi documents raises new questions about the role of Prescott Bush and his influential business partners in the secret emigration of Nazi war criminals, which allowed them to escape justice in Germany, says Bob Fertik, co-founder of Democrats.com and an amateur 'Nazi hunter.' It also raises questions about the importance of Nazi recruits to the CIA in its early years, in what was called Operation Paperclip, and Prescott Bush's role in that dark operation.
Fertik and others, including former Justice Department Nazi war crimes prosecutor John Loftus, a Constitutional attorney in Miami, and a former Veterans Administration official, believe Prescott Bush and the Harrimans should have been tried for treason.
Originally posted by bsbray11
Originally posted by W3RLIED2
Nobody is glorifying Nazis. You asked what they brought to the table.
We answered your question.
So they brought a bunch of Jew-killing secret police and mass manipulators. And you feel smug telling me as much?
I asked what the Gestapo "brought to the table," and 'Jerico' says they were good at fighting the Soviets. No, I don't think so. The German army was fighting the Soviets, and by the time the Soviets got to Germany where Germany's police could have fought them, it wasn't much of a fight anymore anyway. The Soviets were whipping German ass by that point.
It's interesting to see how many people are coming out to defend the Gestapo and other Nazis just because our leaders secretly took them in and employed them...
Originally posted by projectvxn
Attention
You will maintain civility.
Such is mandatory and agreed to the second you hit submit on your membership form.
Originally posted by bsbray11
The fact that you're even here defending our government taking in Nazis at all, and Gestapo on top of that, sends a perfectly clear message. The Gestapo were not professional Soviet-killers. They were German police who killed Germans and Jews and homosexuals and anyone else that Hitler and his cronies took a disliking to, along with the SS. Did you ever study the Holocaust at all, or are you going to defend what Germany did there too? The Soviets tore Germany up when they got there, not surprisingly because the Gestapo was a police force and not a military organization and the German army had been retreating in rags ever since Stalingrad and Kursk.edit on 12/12/10 by masqua because: Removed censor circumvention in quote
Originally posted by Doujutsu
Nasa wouldn't have existed without Von Braun.
Originally posted by jerico65
Once again, I want you to go back and pinpoint where I'm defending this.
Your lack of knowledge of this subject is showing. Gestapo wasn't just hunting Jews, homosexuals, etc. (that was the SD, I believe, a "sister" organization) It dealt with treason, spying, sabotage, and criminal attacks.
During World War II, the Einsatzgruppen (Task Force) was formed, and came to be an integral part of the Gestapo. It was the Task Force's job to round up all the Jews and other “undesirables” living within Germany's newly conquered territories, and to either send them to concentration camps or put them to death.
The army units within the Gestapo were taught many torture techniques, and were also taught many of the practices that German doctors in Dachau tested on the inmates of concentration camps. The Gestapo, during its tenure, operated without any restrictions by civil authority, meaning that its members could not be tried for any of their police practices. This unconditional authority added an elitist element to the Gestapo; its members knew that whatever actions they took, no consequences would arise.
They weren't "professional Soviet killers", but they weren't just some dumb cops, either. It had offices dealing with occupied territories and counterintelligence.
Originally posted by SLAYER69
Get over it people!
Von Braun and his band of merrymen were the Spoils of war.
Enough said.
Originally posted by mydarkpassenger
It was no secret that America brought Nazi party members out of Germany, just as it was no secret that the Soviets did the same.
Do not confuse a Nazi party member with the Gestapo; most were just citizens trying to save themselves and their families.
After World War II, American counterintelligence recruited former Gestapo officers, SS veterans and Nazi collaborators to an even greater extent than had been previously disclosed and helped many of them avoid prosecution or looked the other way when they escaped, according to thousands of newly declassified documents.
Originally posted by bsbray11
This isn't directed at you, mydarkpassenger, but I don't think some of the other members here would actually mind living in 1930s Nazi Germany. The way they speak of these people, you'd think they actually have admiration for this kind of "work."
Originally posted by mydarkpassenger
To demonize everyone who joined the Nazi party is a disservice to the truth. Again, I point out that one of the most famous "Nazis" was Oskar Schindler, who single handedly saved more than 1200 people from the death camps.