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I was hoping to open debate about a statement I disagreed with. Mission accomplished. 24 flags and thirty stars is really not that many compared to most threads, and look at my stats, I don't NEED any more, do I?
Originally posted by Equinox99
NOTE The OP has described the actions of all Christians based on the views of some. This idea is ludicrous to think that patriots are only Christians. This leaves me to believe that this thread was open with the sole intention to receive quick stars and flags. Now that you have succeeded, tell me, did you ask other Christians if they thought they were the only patriots before staring a debate with one person?
What do you hope to accomplish with this thread? From what I read no one is really debating the idea, just another Christian bashing thread. From what I read everyone is on the side that Patriotism doesn't stem from Christianity alone. I knew this would happen and you knew this would happen.
Not all Christians are patriots, but there are more Christians than any other belief. So statistically, it would be correct to assume that there are more Christian patriots than the latter. But not all true patriots are Christians.
I would have to review mamabethe's post about patriotism and Christianity before I can make a conclusion if she was right/wrong. But from what she wrote on this thread, she was not insinuating that all patriots are Christians.
She was stating it from a statistical point of view, which should be close to the correct amount. There are more Christians in the US so there are more Christian patriots than every other belief system individually.edit on 13-12-2010 by Equinox99 because: spelling
Most atheists are secular humanists, this is pretty much a religion without a god and causes much of the support for socialism, communism, and it is generally a pro NWO ideology that supports 1 world government.
Originally posted by zcflint05
reply to post by RSF77
Why does our ability to go kill Arabs for an unjustified holy war equate to the patriotism or love for our country?
Personally, I know plenty of conservative, liberal, and everywhere in between people who care deeply for our country. Just because they don't plan to show it by murdering people in the name of big oil doesn't mean they don't love their country very much.
Originally posted by lewman
many americans live in a bubble of self obsession, being patriotic is a good thing when watching your nation play sports in world tournaments (the world series does not count) and when your country is under threat from invaders ( could be why the north koreans are so patriotic). it should not be used to fuel racism or to act like a prat and it has nothing to do with religion as north korea proves. patrionism exists world wide and not just in the usa but as i said earlier, many americans live in a bubble of self obsession, its just a shame that most cant see out of it!edit on 13-12-2010 by lewman because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by ztruthseeker
reply to post by Unilluminist
As for patriotism, my patriotism is as follows. The world is my country, humans are my brethren, and to do good is my religion.