reply to post by brokedown
It is a fact that most of the founding fathers of this nation were Christian.
Care to back up that "fact" with some
real evidence, friend? Never mind, I will do this for you! The statement is a bold faced lie, and there
is no truth in it.
Fundamentalist Christians are currently working overtime to convince the American public that the founding fathers intended to establish this country
on "biblical principles," but history simply does not support their view. The men who were instrumental in the founding of our Nation were in no
sense Bible-believing Christians, most were Deists.
Thomas Jefferson was just as suspicious of the traditional belief that the Bible is "the inspired word of God." He rewrote the story of Jesus as
told in the New Testament and compiled his own gospel version known as The Jefferson Bible, which eliminated all miracles attributed to Jesus and
ended with his burial.
The Jefferson Bible
The Life and Morals of Jesus of Nazareth
Extracted Textually from the Gospels
Compiled by Thomas Jefferson
www.angelfire.com...
www.mindfully.org...
Jefferson didn't just reject the Christian belief that the Bible was "the inspired word of God"; he rejected the Christian system too. In Notes on
the State of Virginia, he said of this religion, "There is not one redeeming feature in our superstition of Christianity. It has made one half the
world fools, and the other half hypocrites"
"This would be the best of all possible worlds, if there were no religion in it."
-John Adams
"Millions of innocent men, women and children, since the introduction of Christianity, have been burnt, tortured, fined, imprisoned; yet we have not
advanced an inch towards uniformity. What has been the effect of coercion? To make one half the world fools, and the other half hypocrites. To support
roguery and error all over the earth."
-Thomas Jefferson
"I do not find in orthodox Christianity one redeeming feature."
-Thomas Jefferson
"When a religion is good, I conceive it will support itself; and when it does not support itself so that its professors are obliged to call for the
help of the civil power, 'tis a sign, I apprehend, of its being a bad one."
-Benjamin Franklin
"I do not believe in the creed professed by the Jewish Church, by the Roman Church, by the Greek Church, by the Turkish Church, by the Protestant
Church, nor by any Church that I know of. My own mind is my own Church. Each of those churches accuse the other of unbelief; and for my own part, I
disbelieve them all."
-Thomas Paine
The divinity of Jesus is made a convenient cover for absurdity.
-John Adams, U.S. President
This would be the best of all possible worlds, if there were no religion in it.
-John Adams, U.S. President
The government of the United States is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion.
-John Adams, U.S. President
Let the human mind loose. It must be loose. It will be loose. Superstition and dogmatism cannot confine it.
-John Adams, U.S. President
But how has it happened that millions of fables, tales, legends, have been blended with both Jewish and Christian revelation that have made them the
most bloody religion that ever existed.
-John Adams, U.S. President
Have you considered that system of holy lies and pious frauds that has raged and triumphed for 1500 years?
-John Adams, U.S. President
Religions are all alike; founded upon fables and mythologies.
-Thomas Jefferson, U.S. President
Christianity is the most perverted system that ever shone on man.
-Thomas Jefferson, U.S. President
The Christian God can be easily pictured as virtually the same as the many ancient gods of past civilizations. The Christian god is a three headed
monster; cruel, evil and capricious. If one wishes to know more of this raging, three headed, beast-like god, one only needs to look at the caliber of
the people who say they serve him.
They are always of two classes: fools and hypocrites.
-Thomas Jefferson, U.S. President
On the dogmas of religion, as distinguished from moral principles, all mankind, from the beginning of the world to this day, have been quarreling,
fighting, burning and torturing one another for abstractions unintelligible to themselves and to all others, and absolutely beyond the comprehension
of the human mind.
-Thomas Jefferson, U.S. President
The Bible is not my book nor Christianity my profession. I could never give assent to the long, complicated statements of Christian dogma.
-Abraham Lincoln, U.S. President
During almost fifteen centuries has the legal establishment of Christianity been on trial. What has been its fruits? More or less, in all places,
pride and indolence in the clergy; ignorance and servility in the laity; in both, superstition, bigotry, and persecution.
-James Madison, U.S. President
The age of ignorance commenced with the Christian system.
-Thomas Paine, American revolutionary
The United States of America should have a foundation free from the influence of clergy.".
-George Washington, Revolutionary War General and U.S. President
Religious controversies are always productive of more acrimony and irreconcilable hatreds than those which spring from any other cause.
-George Washington, Revolutionary War General and U.S. President
I would say, and not in an offhand manner either, that the men quoted above were in fact our Founding Fathers. Does what they say redeem your
statement of "fact" that our founders were all Christians?