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Originally posted by fnpmitchreturns
BS!!!!! In fact you can not be a real patroit if you are a Christian who does not believe in religious freedom. Our forefathers left England to escape religious tyranny by the Church of England and THE GOVERNMENT ASSOCIATED WITH THE CHURCH! The biggest reason why we have seperation of church and state.
Jefferson aimed at laissez-faire liberalism in the name of individual freedom, He felt that any form of government control, not only of religion, but of individual mercantilism consisted of tyranny. He thought that our civil rights have no dependence on our religious opinions, any more than our opinions in physics or geometry.
Although Jefferson believed in a Creator, his concept of it resembled that of the god of deism (the term "Nature's God" used by deists of the time). With his scientific bent, Jefferson sought to organize his thoughts on religion. He rejected the superstitions and mysticism of Christianity and even went so far as to edit the gospels, removing the miracles and mysticism of Jesus (see The Jefferson Bible) leaving only what he deemed the correct moral philosophy of Jesus.
It is a fact that most of the founding fathers of this nation were Christian.
Originally posted by Akragon
Its interesting how people talk about "Christs teachings" yet theres so little actually writen about them.
Christ taught meditation, yet you have to really dig to find that fact. No christian church teaches that which i find rather sad. Instead they teach you that you have to give your money to them, pray in large buildings which have nothing to do with God, worship in front of a cross which is laughable! To top it off they pray to their god in large audiences which is completely contradictary to was in said in their own book.
Considering Christ wasn't christian to begin with im amazed how many people believe so strongly in a book thats been re-writen over and over to suite whatever agenda was on the menu at the time.
Originally posted by Akragon
Actually i've found "it" many years ago and do apply it to every day life. Unfortunatly what i've learned had little to do with what you'll read in the bibles... Its more like simple logic. Your heart will guide you if you understand the basics, but without those basics most end up listening to whats preached to them as opposed to what you can find out for yourself. Thus most end up in churches and understanding little about God or existance in general.
Just because these so called "ministers" have read their bible over and over doesn't mean they understand or even know God. What could be worst then learning about God from someone that doesn't actually know God.