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Originally posted by Mike.Ockizard
reply to post by hotbakedtater
the american ideals include things like "in god we trust", "one nation under god" and other references to god. so to be patriotic and partake in the american rituals, you must acknowledge god. i think this means in america you can be patriotic while being a christian, jew or other denomination that acknowledges god. if you are an athiest tho, your screwed.
Originally posted by D377MC
What this means is that this thread is pointless until we actually sit down and define:
Originally posted by Equinox99
She was stating it from a statistical point of view, which should be close to the correct amount. There are more Christians in the US so there are more Christian patriots than every other belief system individually.
Originally posted by lewman
the stat is from 2006 in a book on macro econoics that i cant find or remember the name of but i googled a few key words and many places have the number as 85%.
i would think about this for a while, there are many social groupings etc... and if you are intelligent then you will mingle around with atleast educated people and the fact that you are on this website means that you have must have a relatively open mind and therefore i would assume that you and yoiur friends would have some interest in other countries and even in travelling to them so maybe your surroundings are not the best way to disprove other peoples statements however bold they may seem.
people forget that what they know around them is not exactly the bigger picture
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances..
Originally posted by masqua
Are only Americans patriots?
Can athiest Chinese nationals be patriots too?
Originally posted by Pervius
True Patriots are not Christians.
Our Navy can't afford to man it's ships. So they are making cuts and cuts and even more cuts to our military.
Maybe if we cut the Chaplains we'd be able to man our Navy's ships. Christians won't let Chaplains be cut from our military, so in essence they are decreasing our Defense Capability.
Non-Patriots. There's no reason Chaplains-religious folk should be wearing a military uniform in todays world. Maybe if our economy was in good condition and we could afford people in our military....but we can't.
Man I hate it when people load the language to give innocent words dirty meanings. Evangelism is the proselytizing of religion, it is not a bunch of inbred ignorant morons holding up "God hates fags" signs. Not all evangelists are theologically ignorant, historically indifferent, and filled with rage. These Bible-thumping "evangelicals" are not having a population explosion, they've always been here and they've always had a right to their views, because that is the American way. The "evangelicals" you hate are 90% Baptists, so why don't you direct your hate toward them instead of making a blanket statement about all Christians who wish to share the word.
Originally posted by pajoly
reply to post by Section31
Man I hate literalism, especially the comment that the Constitution does not have the phrase "separation of chruch and state." The Constitution does not say many things word for word; that in no way means something is necessarily condoned, permitted or said to be a right or not. In any event, if only the literal words mattered you'd need no courts. Of course, you'd have to not only stop technology, but you'd have to revert 100% to only those technologies and things commonly available at the time the document was written.
Exercise some common sense and logic. Sadly, neither of those are American traits anymore and we can thank Evangelicalism for our stunning explosion of literalism and ignorance in this country.