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Originally posted by bogomil
Isn't redeeming a wonderful invention.
The whole fringe of fanatic christianity can spread a book of murder and rape, can commit atrocities for centuries, but that's all forgiven, justified, explained or excused (your choice) because atheists 'call you names'.
Poor, poor persecuted christianity.
Btw I'm not an atheist nor anything else on the scale towards theism.
Wow you really are paranoid, welcome to ATS! I know the dictionary definition of fascism and it's dead WRONG. Fascism was/is a political system marked by prejudice, extreme-right ideology (let's throw out what the political spectrum actually means), monism, intolerance, and oppression. So how did they sell the idea? "Mr. Hitler, what is the National Socialist Party's platform" "Thank you Greta. Well we are taking the oppressive viewpoint of government, we won't tolerate debate, and we absolutely despise the deomcratic progress". You know how they say that "History is decided by the victors" well that's what happened to fascism. Now it's an insult and nobody has any idea that it still has a big following today (not Christian).
Originally posted by bogomil
"You have a very loose interpretation of the word fascist (don't worry most people do)"
Some common usage definitions:
1. Oppressive, dictatorial control. (American Heritage Dictionary)
2. (in general use) extreme right-wing, authoritarian, or intolerant views or practice......Fascism tends to include a belief in the supremacy of one national or ethnic group, a contempt for democracy, an insistence on obedience to a powerful leader, and a strong demagogic approach. (Oxford Dictionary of the US Military)
3: Genuinely fascist ideologies are: monist, that is to say, based upon the notion that there are fundamental and basic truths about humanity and the environment which do not admit to question; simplistic, in the sense of ascribing complex phenomena to single causes and advancing single remedies; fundamentalist, that is, involving a division of the world into ‘good’ and ‘bad’ with nothing in between; and conspiratorial, that is, predicated on the existence of a secret world-wide conspiracy by a hostile group seeking to manipulate the masses to achieve and/or maintain a dominant position. (Oxford Dictionary of Politics).
Can't see how this differs from your attitude. Quote:
"If we all lived under God's law we would live in a paradice in his presence, but God is not 'fascist', he gave us free will and will not force anyone to follow his rules. Just don't be surprised if you are cast out of paradise into the darkness (all possibilities of hellfire aside)."
(My comment: Sometimes in the mundane world, sometimes in opposition to what could be a schizoid astral entity).
So we are free to make decissions, but there will be dire consequences, if we go against self-appointed 'authority'. What a peculiar twist to 'free will'. Sounds very similar to: "All which is not compulsary is forbidden", with the gunpoints hidden under your sugar-coating christian rhetorics.
I think, I'll take my chances and stay clear of your invasive fables. So keep the firewood and matches dry in case you should come back to power again. Maybe you can 'save me' by burning the unholiness out of me.