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If I was a member of the Powers that be in america: How I would get Assange

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posted on Dec, 11 2010 @ 03:42 PM
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I have been thinking and it has taken me a little thought...

You see this is not enough

Espionage act of 1917



The Espionage Act of 1917 (USC 18, Pt 1, Ch 37)[1] is a United States federal law passed on June 15, 1917, shortly after the U.S. entry into World War I. It prohibited any attempt to interfere with military operations, to support America's enemies during wartime, to promote insubordination in the military, or to interfere with military recruitment. In 1919, the U.S. Supreme Court unanimously ruled in Schenck v. United States that the act did not violate the free speech rights of those convicted under its provisions.


just so you have a further link with SCOTUS

Schenck vs United States



Charles Schenck was the Secretary of the Socialist party and was responsible for printing, distributing, and mailing to prospective military draftees during World War I 15,000 leaflets that advocated opposition to the draft. These leaflets contained statements such as; "Do not submit to intimidation", "Assert your rights", "If you do not assert and support your rights, you are helping to deny or disparage rights which it is the solemn duty of all citizens and residents of the United States to retain," on the grounds that military conscription constituted involuntary servitude, which is prohibited by the Thirteenth Amendment.


why do I include the case because You might be hearing a lot about it soon.

I do not think this is what they will nail Assange on. It is not worth the feedback. Include in the charges yes but not main enchilada.

How would I get him? two very simple ways...

1) the first way

RICO



The Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act (commonly referred to as RICO Act or RICO) is a United States federal law that provides for extended criminal penalties and a civil cause of action for acts performed as part of an ongoing criminal organization. RICO was enacted by section 901(a) of the Organized Crime Control Act of 1970 (Pub.L. 91-452, 84 Stat. 922, enacted October 15, 1970). RICO is codified as Chapter 96 of Title 18 of the United States Code, 18 U.S.C. § 1961–1968. While its intended use was to prosecute the Mafia as well as others who were actively engaged in organized crime, its application has been more widespread.



2)as for the second

Wire Fraud



Wire fraud, in the United States Code, is any criminally fraudulent activity that has been determined to have involved electronic communications of any kind, at any phase of the event. The involvement of electronic communications adds to the severity of the penalty, so that it is greater than the penalty for fraud that is otherwise identical except for the non-involvement of electronic communications. As in the case of mail fraud, the federal statute is often used as a basis for a separate, federal prosecution of what would otherwise have been a violation only of a state law.


Now this is where it can get real evil.... I would have him facing charges for it in all fifty states... You see wikileaks has received money from all fifty states. Each state can file separate charges and they will not be double jeopardy....


The above two are enough for extradition...


I have a feeling this may be the way the us government is going... It would explain Visa, Mastercard, and paypals behavior....


and edit



To commit wire fraud, one must (1) devise, or intend to devise, a scheme or artifice to defraud another person on the basis of a material representation, and (2) do it with the intent to defraud, and (3) do it through the use of interstate wire facilities (i.e. telecommunications of any kind).



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posted on Dec, 11 2010 @ 03:49 PM
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If I wanted him out of the picture?

I would give him 250,000 documents of fairly mundane and obvious stuff that has no real punch..then make people simply grow bored of his extraordinary claims followed by releasing what is about as suprising as hearing a politician sometimes lies.

I would venture to say, job well done.

the rest of the stuff is actually kind of odd.



posted on Dec, 11 2010 @ 03:52 PM
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If you were TPTB you would never consider "getting" Assange, or anyone else in Wikileaks, in that manner. You'd have read Sun Tzu and you'd be more interested in how to use him to best serve your agenda. The game isn't about getting people - it's all about spin.

"Getting" people is no more complicated than potassium or quinine in a room service breakfast.

~Heff



posted on Dec, 11 2010 @ 04:08 PM
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lol...



I think most of it is garbage.... The release has done nothing really...


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What I am saying is it looks like this will be the set up... RICO and wire fraud....

If I was actually a member I have to go with he doesnt exist so ignore him attitude. If it was that bad he disappears quietly...
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posted on Dec, 11 2010 @ 04:14 PM
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TPTB would probably just hire a sniper to take
him out.



posted on Dec, 11 2010 @ 04:22 PM
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so you plan to tell the world about my addiction to catnip...




posted on Dec, 11 2010 @ 04:28 PM
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Throw him in a gladiator pit with Bill O and friends at a football arena. Sell tickets to the event and broadcast on it live on Faux tv.
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posted on Dec, 11 2010 @ 04:34 PM
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Hire some hot girls to pose are sweedish locals who then seduce him into having sex with them. Make sure they switch out his condom with an old one that will surely break during intercourse. Then bring him up on rape charges, and have him extridited to sweeden. While that's happening change the current laws so that he can be charged for espionage under the newly editted laws, then charge him with espionage, and have him extridited to the U.S. where he will get more water boarding than a pro surfer.



OH...WAIT.......................................................................



posted on Dec, 11 2010 @ 04:37 PM
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read the art of war, pure genius from when people werent dumbed down. they would bail him out, oh wait, hes planned for that. if he is a cia mask (they have never had a better actor) they had to have designed it for him to be put in prison after he started receiving death threats. or its such a complex plan that you have to critically think to see all the pieces moving, you are so busy watching them that its impossible to see the "puppet master"

in tsun tsu's art of war, it would be like having the targetplaced uphill with one mode of entry. by the time you get there you are exhausted, and arent in your prime anymore, or maybe you are, but then then fighting soldiers defending their homes that have been waiting for the first man to get up the hill. most likely, you will not see the king if you attack as everyone else does



posted on Dec, 11 2010 @ 04:39 PM
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So how does that stack up against the UKs Justice Secretary saying that what has been done is "of genuine public interest" and "although harmful - not criminal"

The reason I use the above quotes is to ask how do you get a guy who is in a nation that does not consider his actions criminal?

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posted on Dec, 11 2010 @ 04:52 PM
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I take it George Soros would be one of TPTB. He'd have to call his bankers and financial managers and tell them there has been a change and "we" will no longer be funding the Open Society Institute.

To my understanding Wikileaks IS under control of TPTB. That's why Obama acts like he could care less.

It's a key element in the "Bottom up, top down, inside out" strategy Van Jones has been speaking about for quite some time.



posted on Dec, 11 2010 @ 06:04 PM
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US Federal Law doesn't apply to foreigners who are citizens of Sovereign Nations.

Especially since they don't have a foot on our soil.


You can't go after Chinese citizens for drinking booze at 18, just because our law says you have to be 21.

Some countries have more freedom for their citizens...and since they are sovereign nations...you can't go after them....for a crime they didn't commit on our soil.



posted on Dec, 11 2010 @ 06:23 PM
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This whole wikileaks thing has me confused. Why go after Assange? From what I understand he got this information from people within our government and military, wouldn't THEY be the guilty parties?

And aren't there whistleblower protection laws anyway?



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