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PLACES TINFOIL HAT ON HEAD
When I put on my tin foil hat I sometimes wonder just what TPTB wants? While you read this keep in mind that the USDA funded the research that
produced spermicidal corn, and US policies are directly responsible for the 2008 food riots. See my Post :
I have tripped over more than one site that advocates "culling" humanity. Killing off old folk or whatever. You can even find this:
Now lets think about this for a minute.
Earth population 'exceeds limits'
There are already too many people living on Planet Earth, according to one of most influential science advisors in the US government.
Nina Fedoroff told the BBC One Planet programme that humans had exceeded the Earth's "limits of sustainability".
TPTB really do not give a hoot about our welfare. They instigate wars, bankrupt farmers, cause starvation all in the name of profit. Until 1970 TPTB
pursued a policy of ”Pollution is the price of progress”
I am old enough to remember that distinctly since it is why I joined
Greenpeace in 1971.
Remember Corporations (and Banks) make money by GROWING. So why all of a sudden around 1970 do they want to cut population growth DRASTICALLY? So
drastically that they pursue things like vaccines
Also do not forget TPTB lie through their teeth.
Second population growth drops sharply when people move to cities. On a farm a child is free labor, in a city he is another mouth to feed, house and
educate. It is just that simple. So given what they did to American farmers to provide a larger labor pool for their factories, why did their
attitude change in the 1970's?
What I find very interesting is the timing
of events around 1970. This is the time when we got OSHA and EPA and our Manufacturing Base was
starting to move to foreign countries. Remember TPTB has complete control of the media so "Environmentalism" could not have grown without their
consent. Heck Maurice Strong got his start working for the Rockefellers in Saudi Arabia in the 50's!
Here is the timing.
In 1970 you had "Who controls the food supply controls the people; who controls the energy can control whole continents; who controls money can
control the world". – Henry Kissinger.
In 1972 you had "Environmentalism" and "Global Warming" promoted by TPTB in the UN First Earth Summit chaired by Maurice Strong.
In 1974 you had the
CIA _/url] dated 1974 predicting an Ice Age.
Now for the tinfoil. (Waves propeller beanie)
We next need to look at what happen BEFORE the items mentioned above.
First Gleissberg (1939 & 1971) identified an 88 yr cycle in the weather patterns www.agu.org...
Gleissberg's work meant you could predict the next warming spell. What was interesting was that in 1972 the world was STILL in a cool phase and would
not start warming for another couple of years! So how come Maurice Strong was already hyping "Global Warming" in 1972?
The second really interesting point was the Milankovitch Cycles that predict Ice Ages.
Milankovitch published “Astronomical Methods for Investigating Earth’s Historical Climate”
in 1938. His work was of great interest
especially during the 1963 International Geophysical Year.
George Kukla, together with Robert Matthews of Brown University, convened a conference in 1972 entitled “The Present Interglacial: How and
When will it End?”, and reported it in Science magazine... [note the date]
Kukla and Matthews alerted President Richard Nixon, and as a result the US Administration set up a Panel on the Present Interglacial involving
the State Department and other agencies. None of us knew then that the mid-century cooling was about to be punctuated by a warming spell from the
late 1970s to the mid 1990s.... [again note the dates]
A more definitive confirmation of Milankovitch came in 1976, in a paper by Hays, Imbrie and Shackleton, using Shackleton’s data in the figure above.
But long before either that paper or my own, there was widespread behind-the-scenes acceptance of Milankovitch, and Kukla, for one, was concerned
about the implications.....
George Kukla: Well almost all of us have been pretty sure that there were only four ice ages, separated by relatively long warm intervals.
But now we know that there were twenty in the last two million years. And the warm periods are much shorter than we believed originally. They are
something around 10,000 years long. and I’m sorry to say that the one we are living in now has just passed its 10,000 year birthday. That of course
means that the ice age is due now any time.
Hays, Imbrie and Shackleton
James D. Hays, Columbia University Ph.D. 1964, spent the late ‘60’s developing, in cooperation with Lamont colleagues, a chronostratigraphic
framework for deep-sea sediments by connecting the land-dated record of Earth’s magnetic field reversals with marine stratigraphic datums
By 1970 Hays realized that this marine chronostratigraphy... could form the basis of a global study of Pleistocene climates. He asked John
Imbrie to join the Lamont group and the CLIMAP project was born. Hays then asked Nick Shackelton to join CLIMAP and generate an oxygen isotope record
of benthic and planktonic microfossils in a Pacific core.
It was this careful pre-CLIMAP and early CLIMAP chronostratigraphic work that allowed Hays, Imbrie and Shackelton to show, through analyses in both
the frequency and time domains, that Earth’s orbital variations control the timing of climate change on ice age time scales, proving the theory that
Milankovitch contributed so much to developing.
I can not find my reference but work before 1976 had already given a very good indication that Milankovitch was correct. The 1976 study took that
work further and confirmed it by looking at several sea cores from different parts of the world.
What about the last few decades of warming?
Sami Solanki, Professor at the Federal Institute of Technology in Zurich Switzerland, says the Sun has been burning more brightly over the last 60
years than over the previous 1090 years. www.swissinfo.ch...
Solar activity reaches new high - Dec 2, 2003 physicsworld.com...
" Geophysicists in Finland and Germany have calculated that the Sun is more magnetically active now than it has been for over a 1000 years. Ilya
Usoskin and colleagues at the University of Oulu and the Max-Planck Institute for Aeronomy say that their technique – which relies on a radioactive
dating technique - is the first direct quantitative reconstruction of solar activity based on physical, rather than statistical, models (I G Usoskin
et al. 2003 Phys. Rev. Lett. 91 211101)
Solar Cycle 24
...SDO is going to launch during the deepest solar minimum in almost 100 years....
...All stars are variable at some level, and the sun is no exception. We want to compare the sun's brightness now to its brightness during previous
minima and ask: is the sun getting brighter or dimmer?"
The answer seems to be dimmer. Measurements by a variety of spacecraft indicate a 12-year lessening of the sun's "irradiance" by about 0.02% at
visible wavelengths and 6% at EUV wavelengths. These results, which compare the solar minimum of 2008-09 to the previous minimum of 1996, are still
Even Scientists supporting the "Global Warming" also support Milancovitch.
rTP2VDoaBlAf2sNxN&usg=AFQjCNGxtjOlU9XDuU4_P7FNLFL3iIkI-A]Lesson from the past: present insolation minimum holds potential for glacial inception
"Because the intensities of the 397 ka BP and present insolation minima are very similar, we conclude that under natural boundary conditions the
present insolation minimum holds the potential to terminate the Holocene interglacial. Our findings support the Ruddiman hypothesis [Ruddiman, W.,
2003. The Anthropogenic Greenhouse Era began thousands of years ago. Climate Change 61, 261–293], which proposes that early anthropogenic greenhouse
gas emission prevented the inception of a glacial that would otherwise already have started...."
The big question is "Do TPTB believe an Ice Age is just around the corner and have they been preparing for it since the 1970's?" Does their actions
during that time frame give us the answer?
Remember they are very capable of following long term plans as the Federal Reserve and the Eradication of independent farmers shows.
Oh and for those who were not aware: Global Cooling was on the Bilderberg agenda this year
OK, Now I will take my tinfoil hat off my very suspicious head
I want to end with a few Dwight Eisenhower quotes that I feel are appropriate for ATS:
There is a kind of dictatorship that can come about through a creeping paralysis of thought, readiness to accept paternalistic measures by
government, and along with those measures comes a surrender of our own responsibilities and therefore a surrender of our own thought over our own
lives and our own right to exercise the vote. The free system gives the right to every citizen to do something for himself. Because he has the right,
the opportunity is always there.
If all that Americans want is security, they can go to prison. They'll have enough to eat, a bed and roof over their heads.
Here in America we are descended in blood and in spirit from revolutionist and rebel men and women who dare to disssent from accepted doctrine. As
their heirs, may we never confuse honest dissent with disloyal subversion.
In reading his words I am reminded of the America I used to know. The America I grew up in, I do not recognize that America in the place I am now.
For more Eisenhower quotes: blog.gaiam.com...