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Two car explosions in central Stockholm

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posted on Dec, 12 2010 @ 07:09 AM
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Originally posted by Doujutsu
My point was that we already get all the pro-israeli, pro-US and pro- government opinions on the biased mass media.Hence we are here to look at the other side of the coin.


There are plenty of anti-Israeli/US news agencies out there, though you might want to ignore them if you are someone who enjoys pushing the idea that all of the lies and propaganda in the world originate from the US.

Even better, you can read their articles for several hours a day and claim that they are completely unbiased!




posted on Dec, 12 2010 @ 07:11 AM
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Originally posted by Skittle
"When the Swede shot down a lot of innocent muslims in Malmö (the swedish shooter/laser man) we never made the conclusion that the Swedes were evil.

Sure you have. There were many posts about it even on ATS.


When a crazy muslim only hurts himself then the whole world stands on their head and the racists have their biggest christmas ever. How come?"

What is this absurd analogy? If the terrorist wasn't such a failure and succeeded in hurting others, only then would people be able to denounce that act?


This idiocy is simply getting out of hand you guys. Try using your brain sometimes.



posted on Dec, 12 2010 @ 07:12 AM
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Here is my proof that Muslims one day yearn to rule the world,

Straight from the Quran,

Qur'an (2:244) - "Then fight in the cause of Allah, and know that Allah Heareth and knoweth all things."

Qur'an (8:12) - "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them"

Qur'an (8:39) - "And fight with them until there is no more persecution and religion should be only for Allah"

Qur'an (9:29) - "Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued."

Qur'an (9:88) - "But the Messenger, and those who believe with him, strive and fight with their wealth and their persons: for them are (all) good things: and it is they who will prosper."



Here are some Muslim clerks arrogantly claiming that Islam will rule the world,








You have no clue what you are talking about, go do your research before spreading your BS nonsense that Muslims are all peaceful and oppressed.



posted on Dec, 12 2010 @ 07:12 AM
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Ye its very convient. Jutst to remind the sweedish people who the enemy is... This in a country that has the WL server. This smells if phych ops to me...



posted on Dec, 12 2010 @ 07:13 AM
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Originally posted by Soshh

Originally posted by Doujutsu
My point was that we already get all the pro-israeli, pro-US and pro- government opinions on the biased mass media.Hence we are here to look at the other side of the coin.


There are plenty of anti-Israeli/US news agencies out there,


What 90:10 ratio??


second line.



posted on Dec, 12 2010 @ 07:14 AM
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First two thoughts (not giving them any weight, just the first things that spring to mind) are:

a) There may be more chance that the Swedes will be more amenable to extraditing Assange to the USA now that Sweden are also targets of America arch enemies.

b) As Sweden is now in the news with wiki leaks and Assange and the eyes of the world are on them, it may be a good time, (if you are a terrorist....and, as it turns out, a pretty bad one at that. He didnt even die instantly....ouch !) to make your point.....however badly !



posted on Dec, 12 2010 @ 07:15 AM
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Originally posted by Steam
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You have no clue what you are talking about, go do your research before spreading your BS nonsense that Muslims are all peaceful and oppressed.



I have never heard my woman express the urge to go conquer the world nor Europe. Oh, if you did not understand that let me break it down to you as you were a 5 year old. I am with a muslim woman for the past 6 years.



posted on Dec, 12 2010 @ 07:17 AM
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Why don't you try to refute the proof that I just posted earlier about Muslims trying to rule the world???

Do you honestly think that Muslims are the most oppressed and peaceful people on the planet??



posted on Dec, 12 2010 @ 07:22 AM
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Originally posted by Steam
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Why don't you try to refute the proof that I just posted earlier about Muslims trying to rule the world???


I was tempted to refute it.

But i really can't be arsed at the moment as i have better things to do.Haven't had my breakfast yet even though it's lunch time.

But a member called flyerfans put up exactly the same points as you which me and babloyi refuted on this thread.P.18, 7th post.

Maybe you can check it out?



posted on Dec, 12 2010 @ 07:27 AM
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I really don't care how much people would like to spin these verses and try and say that they mean something else.

Even if you don't agree with the verses that I provided you then how exactly are you going to try and spin the videos??

I mean surely these Muslims clerks meant exactly what they wanted to say or are they just CIA dis info agents??


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posted on Dec, 12 2010 @ 07:31 AM
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Extremists exist in every religion.But it's the actions of the majority that one should look at not a bunch of nutters.



posted on Dec, 12 2010 @ 07:37 AM
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I agree, but it depends on what type of Muslim you talk to.

A Muslim born and raised in a Western Society would probably be less likely to promote this view since they value freedom of religion and liberty.

Someone raised in a Sharia Country or the Middle East though, would probably think that it is their job to convert the infidels.

There was just a thread recently about how 95% of Muslims in Egypt and other middle eastern countries would like Islam to control politics/government.

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posted on Dec, 12 2010 @ 07:37 AM
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Originally posted by Doujutsu
What 90:10 ratio??


second line.


It is natural to assume that there are more news agencies biased towards The West or at least that they have more coverage if that is where you are from. If you were Chinese or North Korean or Russian or Iranian etcetera, you would probably think different and I'm guessing that together they would amount to quite a few more people reading anti-West news publications.



posted on Dec, 12 2010 @ 07:42 AM
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Quoted in the Independant News (www.independent.co.uk...) - 'Julian Assange's lawyer has said that the WikiLeaks founder will fight attempts to have him extradited to Sweden because he fears that it will be the beginning of a process which will ultimately see him handed over to the US authorities'.

So the sex allegations were false.... Well, there's a thing. Now that's failed, how will the USA/CIA get him set up this time. Oooh I know, lets set off two bombs, and get the word 'terrorist' attached to them, then we can say, see... it's his fault, cos he's done this by releasing secret information etc....

It smacks of '9/11', and I bet any money you like it was USA instigated!



posted on Dec, 12 2010 @ 07:52 AM
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ONE proof that this is a CIA/USA operation. Just ONE proof.

Anyone? THOUGHT SO!

One fanatic says this is a justified retaliation to the Afghanistan US military campaign (in Sweden??), another says this is a CIA operation..

You guys just make me sick.
FACE IT! Terrorist attack!
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posted on Dec, 12 2010 @ 08:06 AM
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And I say... Prove it was a terrorist attack!

By all means feel unwell, but don't point fingers when you have none to point with!



posted on Dec, 12 2010 @ 08:08 AM
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Originally posted by purplemer
Ye its very convient. Jutst to remind the sweedish people who the enemy is... This in a country that has the WL server. This smells if phych ops to me...


It's probably setting the scene so that the Swedish public will accept something like the following... In a few weeks there will be an announcement from the Swedish government saying something like:

'In light of the recent terror threat, and in the spirit of co-operation with our good friend and ally in the War Against Terror, the USA... we have decided to agree to extradite Mr Assange to the US. For security reasons we are also closing/confiscating all of Wikileak's servers. While we realise that this decision might be controversial, the threat from Terrorism here in Sweden is now very real... and we cannot allow anything or anyone to take or promote actions which might help those who are out to destroy our freedoms and way of life'

Or something like that



posted on Dec, 12 2010 @ 08:16 AM
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Excellent observation!! Exactly what I was getting at..... if only everyone could be worldly wise




posted on Dec, 12 2010 @ 08:34 AM
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Wow This site is becoming more and more like an Islamic Apologist! rather then a conspiracy theory website.


People who support Islamic believers, teachings, and even this terrorist and who don't believe Islam will rule the world including eupore get stars.

I Guess you bunch of Islamic Apologists never heard of Islamization? well its happening whether you like or it.



posted on Dec, 12 2010 @ 08:39 AM
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Wheres the proof that it was a CIA Operation? do you have any evidence?



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