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25% Of Marines Would Shoot Americans, 100% Of Oath Keepers Would Shoot Them Back. (1/2)

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posted on Dec, 13 2010 @ 07:03 PM

Originally posted by Hefficide
reply to post by muzzleflash

Or, more likely, NATO peacekeeping forces... Imagine an America patrolled by Serbian and Angolan soldiers who harbor deep resentments towards Americans.


Nah, the American military are allready being brought home to act as first responders and police.

From the Cato institute in 2006:

The mainstream media has finally gotten around to reporting that the Pentagon has assigned active-duty troops to a homeland defense mission, a historical first. On Oct. 1, the 3rd Infantry Division's 1st Brigade Combat Team, freshly redeployed from Iraq, began a year-long assignment as a domestic "chemical, biological, radiological, nuclear or high-yield explosive Consequence Management Response Force," or CCMRF ("Sea-Smurf"). The 1st BCT is the first of three CCMRF teams, who will comprise 15,000-20,000 soldiers, according to the Army. The other two will come from the Army National Guard or reserves.

Initial reports were that the 1st BCT might be used to deal with civil unrest and crowd control, missions that would be in severe tension with the Posse Comitatus Act, the longstanding federal statute that restricts the president's ability to use the U.S. military as a domestic police force. In September, the Army Times described the unit's training as "the first ever nonlethal package that the Army has fielded," including beanbag bullets, Tasers and traffic roadblocks.

That report, along with the Bush administration's claim that the Constitution allows that president to use forces as he sees fit, no matter what Congress forbids, created well-founded fears that the CCMRFs first attack would be on Posse Comitatus...

In the panicked days following 9/11, Bush administration officials repeatedly suggested that only armed soldiers could defeat the domestic terror threat. When thousands of troops patrolled the streets in preparation for the 2002 Winter Olympics, then-Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld noted approvingly that "the largest theater for the United States is not Afghanistan today. It is, in fact, Salt Lake City and the environs."

The Posse Comitatus Act forbids the military from acting as police in areas that would regularly be policed by state, county, or state law enforcement. If the soldiers are allready taking orders that break federal law, how long before things escelate?

posted on Dec, 13 2010 @ 07:16 PM

Originally posted by MikeNice81

Originally posted by Hefficide
reply to post by muzzleflash

. If the soldiers are allready taking orders that break federal law, how long before things escelate?

Was that a rhetorical question? Well, here's a rhetorical reply: less than five minutes.

posted on Dec, 14 2010 @ 11:48 PM
Just one of the training facilities for urban warfare in Iraq.......which arguably can be used for urban warfare in America?:

What is MUTC?
Located in South Central Indiana's Jennings County near Butlerville, Muscatatuck Urban Training Center (MUTC) is a secluded, self contained community, once home to the Muscatatuck State Developmental Center. The 1,000 acre site was turned over to the Indiana National Guard in July of 2005 and since has been continually evolving into a full-immersion contemporary urban training environment.

As They Train For War, Civilians Experience Two Cultures: Afghanistan and U.S. Military
June 2010
NORTH VERNON, Ind. — A group of civilians preparing to deploy to Afghanistan to carry out President Obama’s vision to involve the entire federal government in the war gathered in a circle for an after action review at the Muscatatuck Urban Training Center.

In Karbala, at least 31 people are dead and at least another 100 were injured in twin explosions at the city's holiest Shiite shrines.

posted on Dec, 15 2010 @ 10:40 AM
Though you got to admit that over the years of war in Iraq and Afghanistan and surrounding regions, our military forces have readily adapted to urban warfare of one kind or the other.................

The following conversation was heard on the VHF Guard (emergency) frequency 121.5 MHz.

Iranian Air Defense Radar: 'Unknown aircraft you are in Iranian airspace. Identify yourself.'

Aircraft: 'This is a United States aircraft. I am in Iraqi airspace.'

Air Defense Radar: 'You are in Iranian airspace. If you do not depart our airspace

we will launch interceptor aircraft!'

Aircraft: 'This is a United States Marine Corps FA-18 fighter. Send 'em up, I'll wait.'

Air Defense Radar: (total silence

posted on Dec, 15 2010 @ 12:27 PM
Marine Corps Embassy Security Guard - How far will you go

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