The NWO doesn’t exist, stop being ignorant.

I have researched the NWO theory on and off for a long time because the possibility of it fascinated me somewhat and I always believed that there was an elite group, who whether through conspiracy or not, ran things behind the scenes. One of the most compelling proofs of some form of the NWO comes from the piece by Carol Quigley, Tragedy and Hope. There he outlines in a reasonable fashion somewhat of the conspiracy and contends that it isn’t as notorious as is alleged merely secretive and elirtist.

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Now today it has become somewhat of a religion, with hysterical overtones, dogma, and articles of faith.

This, according to some is actually a part of the NWO modes operandi . . . that is to make the concept a ridiculous joke with reptiles, aliens, and other extraneous odd-ball elements to the theory that renders it impossible for any intelligent mainstream audience to look at the concept seriously.

But if one makes a serious study of it, and forgets about the extraneous additions to the conspiracy theory, then you would understand that the concept is highly reasonable on a certain level and likely to be a fact.

reply to post by inforeal
your words do bring truth to this subject, NWO to me is a form of new order a one world government.
Who is at it's head??? who is part of it and is there proof of it, well the pages of info can be found here there and all over the web, is it a good thing we go one world gov or stay the course and if they do make a one world gov. what implantation's are there. I am a talking about UN WHO IMF WTO, G20 G8 G7and the bilderberg group, to me it is like a Corporation CEO, CFO,COO. does this mean we will have one flag? NO. just as a corporate entity, there will be BoD, stock holders and investors, so what does this all mean?
It means the system we have now, will change.
Money will become a fund no USD vs YEN vs EURO vs MK, just one currency, stock share, if you will, do a days work, you earn a days stock percentage, if you do not partake of it then you are not a share holder and do not have rights to it, from it, or benefits from it.
Will this stop wars ? probably not just like corporations there will be inside power struggles, thus war, so why have NWO well i do not know other than it can be under one name one law one rule, and control ones life. notice that use of drugs , gambling, sex for money is not in the UN charter, but the IMF and WHO have plenty to say about them. one should have the right to chose in ones life not dictated too. and to me that is NWO,
OWO don't like the law in your land move to where the law is more slack.got your pass port and left.
NWO looked at your passport see that little mark well that could be RFID chipped e-passports or biometric marker, use a master card ? RFID what better way of tracking you see what you bought where you bought it and how much you spend and where them funds come from. OWO wanted to carry $10,000 cash do so at your own risk. and no one noticed, or gave much thought to it
NWO, DHS in the USA will see you as a drug smuggler and or terrorist and must report this amount where did you get, why you are carrying it, and so forth.

that is to make the concept a ridiculous joke with reptiles, aliens, and other extraneous odd-ball elements to the theory that renders it impossible for any intelligent mainstream audience to look at the concept seriously. But if one makes a serious study of it, and forgets about the extraneous additions to the conspiracy theory, then you would understand that the concept is highly reasonable on a certain level and likely to be a fact.

Yes brilliantly put I agree I'm like you in that i dont pursue certain research although open minded .I only research conspiracies that I beleive i can prove and see documentation for or valid sources .
Lets be honest the NWO is flaunted in plain sight, only its invisible to those who are not yet "awake "

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My opinion

you should be deleted from ATS.

the NWO is something "policy makers" have spoken publicly about for decades.

I am a new member . The fact that your thread has so many stars makes me question why I am on here. Not being rude, just honest and blunt.

I can tell by the way you lay out your argument that you haven't read or researched nearly as much as I have in my life time.

The NWO is a publicized part of American Foreign Policy.

Whether this worldwide conspiracy is labeled NWO, illuminati, or whatever you like to call it, there are things that prove its existence that astute people can clearly see in world events.

Look at the continuity of the Bush administration and the Obama administration in terms of certain issues that the elite want done regardless of the left/right political dichotomy.

Look at the bailout. Bush and Obama policies are one and the same therefore it is clear that the elitist are behind this event and the surrounding scandal of their financial puppets from Wall Street being bailed out by the American tax payer—the scam of the century.

Look at immigration where Bush really is as liberal as Obama on it therefore one can assume the NWO elitist are for illegal immigration.

Look at Obama on the patriot act and other rights issues such as Guantanamo that he and Bush again are in lock step . . . proving that the NWO is behind those actions and want them codified.

They need illegals here because the American poor are mostly all in jail through the “war on drugs” and they need slaves to mow their lawns and shine their shoes. Almost one third of black Americans are in the criminal justice system.

On monetary issues regarding the FED and Wall Street, here again one can tell the interest of the elitist by the continuity of both administrations not reigning in the crooks on Wall Street or the Fed of Bernanke that did nothing to stop it, and we are suppose to believe that they didn’t see the financial devastation coming!

On issues like abortion, health care, and gun control the elite allows the puppet politicians like Bush and Obama and the republicans and democrats to fight over so people can be deceived to think that the political game is genuine where we know nothing is further from the truth.

These puppet politicians are chosen at places like Bohemian Grove or the Bilderbergers conference and basically told what to do.

Remember the event in the 2008 election where Obama secretly met Hillary Clinton at the Bilderbergers conference in Virginia where likely they got their orders and Obama was told to appoint Hillary secretary of State

reply to post by inforeal


WELL PUT ! The last two presidents, make that all the presidents since JFK have followed along with the Banksters plan . JFK was a bold statement !

Hello SimonPeter,

Originally posted by SimonPeter

Did you know that the United Nations has under it's jurisdiction most of Americas national treasures . In 1972 the "World Heritage Treaty" gave authority to the UN over 68% of our national forest .

Yes, i am aware of the United Nations' World Heritage Treaty, thank you.

If you were to actually look before you speak you might not agree with your last statement .

I have looked, and i agree with my last statement which is why i typed it. Isn't the whole point of a forum about discussing matters, and presenting ones own opinion? There is no need to be rude about it.

You must be to young to remember GHW Bush and his glowing speech on the NWO. You won't find news on MTV or Spunge Bob .

Not that my age is of any importantance, but i do remember the speech you are referring to, and i am aware of the lack of news on MTV and Spunge Bob, so it's quite good for me that i watch none of them, isn't it?

We clearly have differing opinions on this topic, but you're being quite rude, which doesn't really help the discussion at hand. I presented a very breif outlook on my opinion on the matter, and you preferred to be insulting for no apparent reason other than just to be rude. Let us share opinions and debate in a mature manner, there is no need to get personal about it! You have your views, i have mine.

But anyway, back on topic.

GHW Bush said:-

Out of these troubled times, our fifth objective — a new world order — can emerge

Do you believe this statement was a warning, that a NWO exists, the government know and are involved with its agenda? Change and action had to take place in regards to what he was referring to though, the crisis in the Persian gulf.

Are you of the opinion that he specifically made that statement as an esoteric warning to all, that a new world order would take hold of the throat of the world, and choke it into submission? That infact, a new world order would rise to power behind the scenes using our front running politicians as their puppets?

My question would be, why would Bush make this statement to show a NWO agenda, where if you are to believe the conspiracy, an NWO has existed for generations, wouldn't what he say indicate that it is a new-new world order?

I'm not saying that everything is squeeky clean with the government, far from it, i am merely trying to say that i've never seen any hard proof that a group of indivuduals control everything, when quite simply some of them can't control their personal lives, their children or the media making fun of them.

The nwo doesnt exsist , ok I believe you .


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i think i can sum up this thread , there is no NWO no ONE WORLD GOV and no GLOBALIZATION, ok now i believe you.

Before you start patting eachothers back here and go off into a proverbial intellectual jerk off circle I would like to see any of you who say the NWO is real post some real evidence.

Like I said, I want a new world order, but not the same as many of those you use as an example, a NWO would only be real when implemented.

Before you start patting eachothers back here and go off into a proverbial intellectual jerk off circle I would like to see any of you who say the NWO is real post some real evidence.

so whats Gordon Brown talking about in my prev post ? ? vuvuzalas ? the cheeky girls ? spongebob ?

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He was talking about global economic markets.

Again this is just another quote that means nothing, I have had countless of these rammed down my throat throughout this thread. Its just another contradiction of the NWO conspiracy, on the one had “they” are accused of covering their very existence by controlling the media yet on the other hand they also talk openly about the alleged existence of the NWO. It cant be both,

No sorry this is rubbish . ...
on the one had “they” are accused of covering their very existence by controlling the media

They do NOT cover thieir exsistance! Their symbols are in plain sight to anyone who hasnt been trapped in the rat race/materialism or their own self importance !

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So if that is the case, why do we not have a one world government just now, why do we not live in a one world totalitarian socialist dictatorship state. If they are so open about it, again does not make any sense

why do we not have a one world government just now,
um hello ? Are you not aware of how the UK has always been sceptic about entering Europe ?
The people dont want a nwo , the internet has set them back in their plans .
They made a grave error , they didnt think that we would use the internet AGAINST them!!!!!!
and thats why you see talk about internet censorship all the time now (China Australia etc .

Theres no one world government YET because of THE PEOPLE !!

let us read what our former rep's had to say www.svpvril.com... why hide it when it is there plane to make it part of life ??? if they wanted to hide it they would not openly speak it, nor would it be in print the terms NWM one world gov, globalization, we would not no what IMF WTO World Bank is or stood for, nor would there be a call for one currency in July 2010 the UN called upon the IMF to have a one world currency, we would still have CDC not WHO as a health leader.
do you know what Globalization is? well this might help globalization101.org... is it a good thing well that depends if you want the world telling how to live and not your self.

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Bekod , you are wasting your time with that guy . I doubt he will ever see the new world order . He should realize that we are still too many with too many guns and pride for them to suddenly force us into submission . Our military can't be counted on to turn against us so they have brought in foriegn troops to enforce marshal law .Still we are to proud and too many . But when they get ready the Banksters will cause a world wide economic crash and we will be forced to comply or starve . Old Kevin gave up his gun he needed to keep the Professional Crooks in check . Thats just what the UN wants us to do . Remember the French Revolution , I am sure that the Elite of the Banking world has not forgot that lesson . After all the taxes levied to pay back the war debt had a little to do with it . I'm pretty sure the Rothschilds were the bankers .

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that might be true , but then there is always hope for one to see the light, and it is not just for one person, i do this for others that will say the same thing, nope, no, and can not be, just is not so, ect,ect. and for myself, putting things in one place, i was thinking of making a thread but here is just fine. and if you notice they the post i make contain gov or corp links.
I must make apology's to EU members and UK for not saying anything about them, looking it now.
www.fco.gov.uk... and to me this says enough on the UK and the EU, a lot of info there.

reply to post by The Ghost Viking


Actually the internet is part of the plan . Whats happening now is centralizing the world economy and government. Believe it or not these things are prophesied in the Bible . There is a world currency that exist now called the Special Drawing Rights or SDRs . It will never have to be printed , it's electronic and can't pass germs and you will not be able to transact business with out using it soon . The Internet will be playing a major role in the Mark Of The Beast can't buy, sell or trade without it . We are had , all they have to do is collapse the economies around the world and wait . We will beg them to get it going again . Many will die of lack of food and medicine and water .Where you listen to David Rockefeller's speech and his cronies you will see that population decreases are part of his aim. When they do get the world markets going it will be vastly different . Christians will not go for it and be persecuted because of it .The Banksters would not spend so much time and money on the NWO if it was not going to be very profitable for the very few Elite.

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Yeah and you can’t prove a word of what you have just said because it is based on religion, religion is based on faith, just like most conspiracies.

Quote the Bible all you want, it proves nothing.