What US government agencies/positions would be the most privy to knowledge of ETs/UFOs/etc. I'm thinking something in the intelligence community (obviously), but where?

I would think the NSA/CIA would be a safe bet for that information if it exist. For the most likely military branch I would say army/airforce

I'm guessing the Navy would have guite a bit of information too.

Any branch except the Marines and Coast guard I think they would get left out of the loop

It`s the one that nobody knows about due to the fact it`s top secret.Any govt agency that we now of ie NSA CIA MI5 MI6 would not cover the really sensitive stuff that effect mankind.There agencies are to large with to many people that cannot be controlled.If a group within the agency were to disagree there is the potential to leak info.The really juicy stuff that everyone wants to now about don`t excist or do they!

In the military, I would guess the Air Force. Specifically, their Office of Special Investigations (AFOSI). One the surface it looks like they just deal with internal AF crimes, but who knows? Looks can be deceiving. From a civilian standpoint, probably the CIA.

thanks for the info everyone =)

as far as the CIA goes, what type position? analytical? clandestine? other?

The NRO. The secrecy branch of the Air Force. It came into existence in the 60s and the public didn't even know about it until the 90s.

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i checked out the NRO's website last night, didnt see any links relating to employment. would it be safe to assume that you pretty much have to be picked for the job, by being recruited out of some other agency?

Boogie: very informative, thanks a ton for the insight and information

something else ive wondered...does the fbi actually have an 'x-files-ish' department, to investigate unsolved/unexplained crimes? i realize this question is possibly absurd, but ive been wondering about it for a while.

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I doubt it’s a position that you can apply for, like boogie said, you probably would have to prove yourself before they would trust you with the information.

The NSA runs an organization within OPS 1 called DEFSMAC, which stands for Defense Special Missile and Astronautics Center. Officially, it is supposed be the chief warning bell for the launch of foreign rockets, but I would imagine with the network they run that they would be prepared to deal with UFOs as well. McNamara established the organization after the Cuban Missile Crisis, and the director of the DIA was quoted as saying “You didn’t want NORAD [the North American Air Defense Command] fooling around in technologies that they didn’t understand, or trying to evaluate a bunch of raw data, so DEFSMAC was put in.”

I suppose you could interpret that any way you want, but the first part of his sentence (about unknown technologies) seems to indicate that they may deal with more than just ICBMs.

Has anybody considered that this group may not even be a part of any government? Some corporations have more money than entire countries. Or, they don't have to be a corporation, just a group. MJ-12 is rumored to be a private organization, once a part of the United States government, yes, but ceased to be so in 1969.

Also, I think this group would want a very small group of people to know what's going on. For example, if the group's leaders wanted to reverse engineer, say, an engine, would they really want the engineer to know the whole project? He simply doesn't need to know. They offer him a great deal of money, say the technology is some old Russian invention or something, and get going. In case the engineer don't want the job, he won't be able to tell anybody exactly what kind of engine it was etc.

Same with the crew over at Area 51. People who work topside, cleaning, building, etc, don't know anything about any underground facility, let alone anything "alien".

This way, the group can minimize the risks of someone talking. Maybe they even have insiders within NSA and CIA etc, to oversee what kind of transmissions, if any, are made between induviduals.

I have a movie on my computer called the "Roswell Incident", and it's obvious what it is about. Anyway, a man in that documentary said that he worked within a group only known as "The Nine" or something, and they were just like Majestic 12. In the same documentary, a person from the CIA is interviewed, and he said that if there were a crash, they would know within 5 years - they didn't recieve anything.

Anyway, we also have to consider the possibility that maybe there never was any crash. No bodies, no saucer, no technology. Maybe Project Blue Book was a start of a organization within the Air Force, but they never got anything, so they put the whole thing down. Maybe the government are as puzzled as we are about these UFO's, but considering that nothing "important" have happened since the first claims, it could be difficult to actually do something about it. I mean, do we have agencies to research the Loch Ness monster? Big foot? The mothman? All claims about dragons, ghosts, time travelers? Just like if there were a new kind of birds tomorrow. It's impossible to catch them, they are rarely pictured, and people overall have little info on them. After some time, people realize that these new birds don't possesses any threats, because they just fly around and have never done any harm to people, etc.

I'm sure there are other agencies that we don't know about, much as we didn't know about the NRO, or unrecognized private companies with government backing handling the situation.

I wouldn't worry about the unknown agencies. Since this type of secret is so big that a lot of groups must know about it, the secret holders we know about that deal with this subject are the ones that should be at the center of scrutiny.

Originally posted by mockan


The list goes on and on. Real UFO research would be
very compartmented.. possibly no people from the alphabet
soup names.. NSA, CIA, Omega, DoD.. would be directly
involved.

I agree on it being compartmentalized but I differ on not having people from the alphabet soup names. How do you recruit or get people to run this UFO group if you had no dealings with the other known agencies? Plus you would want reports from these agencies from around the world so that this group could disect the info and focus their work.

....let's say you need the NRO to get it's funding boosted in order to track a wave of new sightings, or maybe increase research into more FLIR cameras after the sightings of Mexico (or also stop selling military craft with FLIR to other countries so they can't see these craft), or maybe you see an upswing in sightings in Chile and want to send an aircraft carrier down there to monitor the skies. If the group is too isolated then they will be paralyzed and unable to use the info they have gathered.

My guess is that there may be 9 to 40 people in charge of this stuff with a lifelong commitment and penalty of death at revealing this info and maybe death for their family if necessary (or maybe just a tragic life awaits...Kennedys maybe?). They would gather info from all the agencies which would either be forwarded to the head of that agency who would report to this council or be on this council....or the agencies are all told to forward this info to XYZ where it is managed by a lifelong staff (which would have a "front" so as to not offically exit) who prepares this info for the council to decide how to manage the UFO phenomenon. BUT...sending info to a single group opens a possible security hole where only one key is needed to get in or know about this group, so I think each agency sends a rep. Either way this council has got to be made up of "real people" who have real power in convincing parts of the government to shift resources where it's needed in order to investigate/combat the UFO phenomenon.

The military is in on this 100%...yet there is also a level of civilian paint or what I call "folksiness" over the truth. If you look at my last post describing top secrect revelations, you have this kind of "folksy" secret places where things are hidden...by farms, resorts, Nebraska, etc. Only Area 51 is really a "hot spot", but back in the day I bet it was low key before all the attention. Real people were involved that watched football, ate McDonald's, had families...so I don't think there is some dark chamber of American SS Nazis hidden from life that sit all day deciding how to control the UFO phenomenon. I think it is more likely that current and probably former intel and military leaders sit on this council deciding what to do about the UFOs. Sort of like how think tanks work...a think tank would also be very good cover story.

Just my opinon, but I like to look to past revelations about top secret information to decide on where more may be hidden.

Good subject! This gets us down to the nitty-gritty of what's going on...I hope others post!

From what I've gathered, there are a few organizations involved...

Thing is, it all seems managed by one agency that used to go by many names... First, as the working group (after Roswell), then Majestic 12 when the CIA was formed. Army intel and Navy intel were the ones initially involved, but when the CIA was formed, all the info filtered through it for dissemination...

This was to keep a handle on things, no matter what branch of the military found something...then to be sent to Majestic, secretive agency of NSA, which of course is no longer called Majestic.

Of course, your average guy in the intel services knows nothing about it...it's highly compartmentalized. However, there does seem to be some organization to this. The department of Naval Intelligence seems to be the ones sponsoring (at least on the surface), some of the reverse engineering projects, whereas crash retrieval is done by Army Intelligence...