Originally posted by Al Vereco
I would tend to agree with Earthsister and lilblam: Listen but don't believe, and decide the truth for yourself.
Trust isn't bad; it's a shortcut as someone said, but it makes life easier without having to check every damn thing!
Belief isn't bad; it's merely the overall picture that one has so far. If you do about half of a jigsaw puzzle, you might be able to guess at what
the picture is. That is not to say it's true, but that is what you suspect!
Kinda like all the evidence that points BOTH logically, and circumstencially that the US government, the Israeli spy agency Mossad, and our CIA among
the "elites" created 9/11 and the entire "terrorist" propaganda (were complicit each in their own way), in order to further their own plans to get
more power and control over the general population, and kill any "dissenters". This cannot really be PROVEN (same as anything Bush ever said, yet
most of the country tends to believe him anyway), though based on understanding of human nature and the nature of those in our governments
(psychopathic, power hungry, money-loving, liars, etc), and based on the analysis of what they DO, what they SAY, and who BENEFITS from it all, the
most probable conclusion is that we're all being CONNED, we're being lied to and duped into supporting THEIR war on an invisible enemy that THEY
created. Why? What is the motive? Well besides the general motive of loving power and the human desire to maintain the power that you achieve, there
is very probably also a specific agenda, a PLAN and a REASON for this plan. What that specific reason is, is less certain, though evidence exists to
suggest what this plan might be also, yet that is beyond most people's idea of "rational" or "plausible" simply because of the
assumptions/conditioning/programs that those people have, that do not allow them to really THINK in an open way, but only to think in a constrained
way, what their minds were conditioned to define as "normal". But wishful thinking is the raison d'etre of the human population.
But blind trust and blind belief are bad! They cause you to believe things for no good reason other than that you believe them. (ie:
Another note I'd add is, when you have concluded something based on evidence and logic (though not necessarily KNOW it to be true 100% yet), it is
important to always remain OPEN to the possibility of being wrong. This cannot be overemphasized. This is what separates those who eventually find
truth from those who do not. Very often, we cling to certain ideas/beliefs, especially if they seem rational and logical, and when we discover
overwhelming evidence that contradicts them, we tend to "shove it under the rug" because we're more COMFORTABLE with what we have already accepted
as fact. This maintains our illusions, our false ideas of reality, and only keeps us ignorant and without a clue. But once again, since ALL humans are
service to self, wishful thinking is a major DEFAULT attribute of our being. It is only through effort that we get rid of it. To pretend it doesn't
exist in your self is denial of reality.
(Btw, before you start saying "bad is subjective", just consider that most things are "subjective", and "subjectivity" isn't a "bad" thing
either. It just lets you see things from different angles, instead of an 'overall map view' the whole time)
Bad IS subjective, and therefore to see ANYTHING as good or bad is illusory. However, to UNDERSTAND why someone WOULD see something as BAD, by putting
yourself in their position, can be very helpful. The main issue here is, to remaine objective YOURSELF, so as to not compromise your own understanding
by falling into the trap of subjectivity by "judging" things or people. This can be very tricky and takes practice and effort once again, to
maintain this objective outlook. We're constantly bombarded with suggestions of what is "right" what is "wrong" what is "moral" what is
"immoral" what is "bad" what is "good" what is "justified" and so forth. All those things are subjective, and this means illusory, temporary,
and existing in your MIND.
For example, I don't think Bush is BAD, nor GOOD. But I can put myself into the place of either side, and SEE what would make them think one or the
other. But all the time I remember my position of objectivity, which means just looking at precisely WHAT he does/says, what he does NOT do, how he
ACTS, who is he associated with, what is his nature (which includes general human nature but also his personal nature, such as being a psychopath).
Many of these things simply CANNOT be PROVEN. Most people seek for "proof" of one kind of another, where none exists, only KNOWLEDGE. This knowledge
is gained from experience, from objectivity, effort, open-mindedness, and the desire to understand and seek TRUTH, instead of trying to confirm your
own prior ASSUMPTION of what this "truth" should be. That is more difficult than it may sound.
So what are my objective assessments (not subjective judgements) of Bush?
- He's a psychopath.
- He's a liar.
- He desires power for himself, and is willing to do almost anything to get it.
- He doesn't respect nor care for human life - death of millions means nothing to him, yet he almost convincingly pretends to care on public media -
which is just part of the nature of a psychopath.
- He thinks God talks to him and commands him to mass slaughter entire nations and groups - or so he said anyway.
- He associates himself with those like himself, who support/help him and his agenda, as they have that same agenda - like attracts like.
- He is also controlled by the "elite", he's a puppet who is allowed to play "war president" for a bit, until he becomes useless and is gotten
Does ANY of this make him a bad person? Not really, just a typical service to self psychopath - and he PREFERS it this way by choice, though he is
ignorant of many things about his own nature, since he is also in denial as most humans are about their own nature. He's an expendable asset, just
like Kerry and any other leader in the public government, and he is controlled and does the will of others, those who the public has no awareness of,
yet. Therefore, any "candidate" will continue the same basic plan, even if they wear a different mask while carrying it out. The plan? Total
dominion over as much of the population as possible, extermination of the Arabs/Palestinians, and subjugation/oppression of the human race, and that
is only a small section, it is a means for something else, it an not end.
But why the RUSH to accomplish this so FAST and in such an obvious manner (at least to those who still have eyes to see)? Because there is something
in our immediate future that the "elites" are aware of, but pretty much all other humans are not, including Bush and the public "governments".
They are preparing for this event in our near future. What event or events? How about something like a global catastrophe, maybe cosmic or
climate-related? What if the "aliens" have something to do with this? What if they are entirely different than what the general propaganda has been
saying they are? And I don't mean in terms of being "good" or "bad" or "benevolent" etc. No, I mean their basic nature, their consciousness.
Basically, WHAT they are can be just as important as WHY they are here. The WHAT can very often answer the WHY. And both of these things are hidden,
because of the public ever "found out", they would mutiny all their governments, they'd panic, there would be chaos on a global level, the people
would get hysterical with fear. And this has NOTHING to do with the public's inability to "accept" another civilization from outer space, which is
the purported "reason" for why the government would keep it secret. There are hints at the answers to these questions, but they are not readily
available if you're not doing the work on knowing your SELF. From what I understand, and from my observation of ATS, not one person even came
remotely close to even guessing what they may be. But this is understandable, a squirrel cannot really GUESS what a human is, even if it sees one. It
would really need to stretch its mind really far to just get a small glimpse of the nature of a human, and what it encompasses.
It's kinda like asking a goldfish what the sky is. So how can ANYONE know the nature of these "aliens" if it is so impossible or difficult? Hard to
say, but once again, there are hints, suggestions, there are clues and signs, if one knows where to look. But before one would even know where to
look, one must first understand who he himself is. Know thyself said Jesus! But nobody listened
This is why I said most people shut these possibilities out right away, as they are too "far out" and "crazy" or "conspiratorial" for them. And
those who do NOT shut them out, still fail to do the work to really figure things out, and instead swarm internet forums like this one, making guesses
and basically exchanging IDEAS, based on very little actual evidence or thought at all. What "work" do I speak of? The work on the SELF to rid
oneself of the conditioned lies/illusions/propaganda/disinformation, to rid oneself of the constant programs that run our minds and take away our
conscious BEing from us, and this BEing comes from the choice and openness to learn to SEE what is TRUE in our reality and within ourselves, instead
of being a rag doll of "society" and the toy of "the powers that be" that shape us like clay. Those who think they are open minded are often in
denial of the very assumptions that they are making, which are the cause of their mental constriction. This is often not conscious, and can be very
Yet being open minded is half of the coin. Putting in conscious EFFORT to investigate/research/analyze/critically think/connect the dots is the OTHER
half. Achieving both sides of the coin requires WORK. Saying "I'm open minded" doesn't make it so. Questioning every single thing that you've
come to "know" and "believe", and try to rework your understanding of reality, of YOURSELF, of the people in your life, of EVERYTHING basically,
takes TIME and EFFORT - and THAT is the start and the first step of the search for truth. Without knowing YOURSELF, you can never know anything else,
because the main person we always LIE to is ourselves. Why do we do this? Because we're all SERVICE TO SELF, every ONE OF US, without exception. If
you cannot even see that, because you're in denial, you'd be hard pressed to see anything else!
I'm not saying "accept it cuz I said so". I'm saying look, and see for yourself. The problem is, most of us don't know how to look, we've never
tried, and when we did, we usually would get too terrified and would instantly "repress" what we might've accidentally learned - we deny it, we
ignore it, we shove it under the rug, we constantly keep ourselves BUSY with "friends" and "TV" and "games" and all other activies, to refrain
from quiet contemplation of our own being. So before anyone can SEE, they must learn to LOOK, which means open their eyes. And THAT takes a lot of
effort in and of itself.
There is no free lunch in the universe. All true knowledge comes from your own effort and search for it. All there is, is lessons. Not all of us are
ready to understand many of these things and a lot more, simply because we're not in that stage of our progress yet. Many who read this will
instantly brush this off as nonsense, as jibber-jabber, as just senseless "talk" of nothing. Others, will have their curiosity triggered but will
eventually become too distracted with other "things" and lose interest. Others, will spend time thinking about these concepts, and might come to
certain mind-blowing revalations as a result of that thinking, though they are not ready to accept/understand ALL of this, just certain parts, which
eventually lead them to a more complete understanding, when they are ready - and only THEY decide when they are ready.
Yet others will recognize what I say because they will have an intuitive understanding of this, even if their conscious/logical mind doesn't really
know what to make of this since it hasn't really spent the EFFORT on it yet, and they WILL then choose to spend time/energy at working on themselves,
will look within as well as without, will cross-reference all data/information they encounter with a perfectly and completely OPEN mind, and will
recognize their own inner drive to seek knowledge, and follow it. Those are the ones who are ready, who are simply in that point of their learning
cycle. But NO ONE who reads this is "bad" or "stupid" or "incompetent". Those are relative and subjective, and very much fluid. For all you
know, one day G W Bush wakes up and realises he doesn't want to continue slaughtering millions, lying to the whole world, and stepping over others to
get "to the top". This is unlikely in THIS lifetime, but it is nevertheless POSSIBLE, it is a CHOICE after all, no matter how improbable. Of course,
for him, it is probably too late, as it was for Kennedy. He'll most likely just get shot if he decides to "get out" of his predicament. He has gone
this far, it is too late to turn back.
But this is all speculating on an EXTREMELY tiny possibility, because his own nature and choices have firmly rooted him where he wants to be, so
firmly, it would take a tractor to tear those roots at this point.
So am I wasting my time saying all this? Is it just service to self wishful thinking on my part that this post will help someone? Well yes it is,
since no one asked me for anything I wrote here, I'm just acting on my own desire to send this out, cuz it makes me feel good entertaining the idea
that someone, even if it is just 1 person, reads this, and eventually wakes up because of this. Just when I think I've learned my lesson to not GIVE
when not asked, as this only amounts to TAKING since it is for the SELF that I do this, I still do it. At least I don't deny the truth, and
rationalize it as "for someone else", as that would always be FALSE when I'm not ASKED.
Anyways, that's all folks! Anything and everything I said may be partially or totally wrong. All is just my opinion, and will remain my opinion until
someone can validate or invalidate it for THEMSELVES, then it becomes my opinion AND their opinion - and so on. All I said can also be true, but no
one will know until they choose to know. Ain't it funny how the simplest things can be so difficult to accomplish?
[edit on 19-7-2004 by lilblam]