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Originally posted by AdAbsurdum
The Political System
- The Federal Government should only exist for Military and Foreign Policy needs.
- State level government is all that is required as a governing body.
-- Individual communities, themselves, determine the purposes warranted for the existence of the State level governing body as every State has different needs.
--- This Council will consist of elected members placed in a pool of available candidates to ensure representation and a check against power centralization that leads to tyranny of the minority.
-- All other circumstances requiring an appeal to higher governing authority are decided upon buy a council created via a raffle.
-Taxation is a necessary evil that must be collected to fund the operation of the State council and potential councils created as courts to hear grievances; however, all tax dollars gathered that remain in surplus must be returned to the tax payers at the end of the fiscal year in direct proportion to what was paid.
-- All tax payers have a right to withhold tax dollars from their governing bodies. They can not then engage in use of and tax dollar funded program, utility, or infrastructure without first paying an upkeep toll decided upon by that particular business or entity.
-The people, through their elected representatives, have the right to prevent the formation of monopolies and cap buy outs by any means possible to include violent action if necessary.
-- All corporate entities of bordering States and Internationally are considered foreign entities and subject to a punitive import tariff, be it the will of the people, to inhibit growth of monopolies, prevent outsourcing, and to ensure that all business is performed ethically, for the benefit of the people.
--- All monies generated by the punitive import tariff will be distributed to the people in which the business is operating to ensure the people at large maintain their buying power locally and can engage businesses of their choosing.
Ok, so that's what I got so far. Bring on the dancing girls.edit on 10-12-2010 by AdAbsurdum because: Spelling, grammar
Originally posted by asperetty
THis is a great outline of what we need and what is required of us to determine now before we get too far ahead of ourselves. It is important that we settle what reforms we want to take place, otherwise we will be shunned for being the typical loud and arrogant youth.
We need to prove that we can change this country for the better, not just cripple government like any other anarchist movement.
The last thing we want is for the media to gain any advantage on us simply because we asked for more than we could afford. You have to remember guys, that political reform = social reform = temporary economic collapse. Things like the looming depression, anarchical state, and domestic terrorism will be the sorts of things we will hear from the opposition about our movement if it were to gain any grounds.
We need a real plan. We need to divide the responsibility between us all so that we can each tackle certain aspects rather than everyone flooded with their work and Ideas on the same topic. For example, someone or a group of people who are learned or at least feels they know economics well should tackle economic reform. People who understand foreign policy, including international trade, should be able to come up with a plan that will allow the continuity of imports and exports, or be able to get us out of the entire trade for some time while remaining in a healthy diplomatic stance with other nations during the time of reforms. Anyone learned in the law must begin to investigate corruption at any level within the government and how we can remove the supreme court justices. The list goes on.
The most important aspect of it all though is our ability to provide continuity of security and resources to the people. Because our government is a corporate fascist state, unless we can abolish the laws that are in favor of companies such as GE and Monsanto or Pfiezer, we will be jumping right into hell, because the government may not be there, but the companies will be, and so will the laws that restrict us from our freedoms and grants it all to them, and the law enforcement agencies whose duties are to uphold those laws, no matter how ridiculous they may be. See what I am getting at? There is a duality of power at play. We must be able to convince the people of america that they won't lose everything. We have to have the redemption plan.
Convincing law enforcement of our plan. That is our biggest struggle. We have to build this up locally, just as the opposition must break us down locally. Nothing worse could happen to a movement than the law enforcement cutting their legs off and the government locking their minds in double plated steel wall cages.
Originally posted by asperetty
OK, but what would stop citizens from withholding their taxes regardless?
And these social contracts, isn't that actually what the original intent of the separate states were? To allow people to choose what is legal or not legal? I definitely can agree on that. THat's not even something to theorize about. That's just the way its supposed to be.
Its quite simple too. States are already divided into Counties, which are a collection of municipalities. The people of each individual municipality will vote for their city council, such as the mayor and the deputy treasurer and all those silly little hometown political seats. Those people hold their office in 2 year terms, with the maximum years being 6. Now what you put forth is basically the same as a state legislature. Yes, this is necessary, and we already have it, but for some reason we never hear a thing about them, only their proposition 1, 2, and 3's. So this is what i think. Since the state is already cut up into counties/regions, all cities within that region can nominate someone from their own city council to run for a seat in the governing state council who will represent that county/region. It won't be required, but it will be promoted and supported. But if the city does not want to put up an official, or no one from the city wants to run, that is fine, that just means less to choose from.
Take for instance my county, the orange one, there are 35 cities, meaning 35 city councils. that means 35 possible choices to represent orange county in the state legislative body. every 2 years, there will be new elections for those county representative in the state governing body. the maximum that a single country rep can hold office is 2 years, with a max of 3 terms. And then of course, you have the figurehead of the state, the governor. I believe that there should be two, and these two take the place of the senators in congress. 1 stays in the state, while the other works in congress. both have 4 year terms, and 2 terms max. If the one in congress wants to pass a certain piece of federal legislation, he first has to gain the approval of the governor back at the state, who before he can offer an answer, must get a 2/3 majority approval in the state legislature. the point of having shorter terms for all the officials of the state is to maintain proper representation of all the constituents in their respective counties.
Its just like a pyramid scheme, with the top of the pyramid completely dependent upon the people at the bottom, and not the other way around.