Christians want to Kill Gays in Uganda, page 1


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Topic started on 10-12-2010 @ 06:29 PM by inforeal
Last night on The Rachel Maddow show was a Christian justifying legislation in Uganda that would kill Gays or imprison them for life.

www.msnbc.msn.com...


Links that show American mainstream Christians link to this notorious Ugandan idea

You might have noticed Mike Huckabee in the news this week. He’s on a book tour traveling around the country. He’s making waves about running for President again in 2012. And he’s chiding the media for paying too much attention to Sarah Palin, when he’s got socially conservative values just as deep as she does.
Here’s something Mike Huckabee also has: a best buddy who wants to see LGBT people killed or imprisoned for life in Uganda. And as recently as August 2010, Huckabee praised the work of this friend, a man named Rev. Lou Engle, who has made campaigning for the elimination of LGBT rights a central component of his life’s work.

Blogger Waymon Hudson noted that in May of this year, Rev. Lou Engle traveled to Uganda and spoke at a rally where calls for violence toward the LGBT community were fast and furious. Rev. Engle got on stage at this rally, and according to one witness, told 1,300 demonstrators that homosexuality was an evil that deserved to be criminalized.

“[Engle] called upon the government of Uganda to be firm and hold on its righteous stand against the evil. He mentioned that homosexuals have penetrated the educational system and Ugandans must be aware of the evil,” the eyewitness said in Hudson’s report.

If that rhetoric from Rev. Engle sounds scary, it should. Last night, Rachel Maddow actually hosted the key politician in Uganda, David Bahati, working to pass what’s known as The Anti-Homosexuality Bill. This is a law that would criminalize homosexuality with either the death penalty or life imprisonment, and would even criminally punish straight people for not telling the government about suspected LGBT people. The bill even says that governments around the world should extradite Ugandan LGBT people back to Uganda, so that they can face punishment.


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reply posted on 10-12-2010 @ 07:22 PM by whaaa
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What's the big deal? Just following the teachings of Christ right? sarcasm

My prayer....
God help protect us from your followers

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reply posted on 10-12-2010 @ 08:04 PM by monkcaw
After looking into this a bit all I can say is...wow, what a mess. It seems to be actually much worse than the OP lets on.

By their fruits you will know them...Instead of the peace of Christ these wolves (pastors) have brought the spirit of the Accuser to the Ugandans. This is the fruit of their heresy.

Damage done but Lou Engle has actually apologized in his
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I was actually asked to release a petition at TheCall for the people to sign in support of the Bill. I did not allow that to happen because the purpose of the gathering was not a political gathering; it was a prayer gathering. However, I had to leave the prayer meeting early to catch our flight back home. After returning home, I was told that the Bill had been clearly promoted after I left the meeting. I apologize that this took place and that my stated purpose of not promoting the Bill was compromised. I take responsibility for what was done on the stage of TheCall, even in my absence.



Now recently, TheCall has been wrongfully marked and vilified as an organization promoting hatred and violence against homosexuals and as one that supports the Uganda bill as currently written. To the contrary, we have never made a private or a public statement of support for that bill. Though we honor the courage and stand with the stated purpose of the many Church leaders in Uganda who are seeking to protect the traditional and biblical family foundations of the nation, we have serious concerns with the bill as presently written, especially in terms of some of the harsh penalties for certain homosexual behaviors or offenses.



reply posted on 10-12-2010 @ 09:11 PM by Misoir
While their religion plays the key element in this piece what you must understand is that the person defines the religion, the religion does not define the person. The Ugandan politician who has proposed this bill on the basis of his and other theocrats interpretation of Biblical text is definitely not the spokesperson of Christianity just as Osama Bin Laden is not the spokesperson of Islam, just as Rabbi Yitzhak Shapiro is not the spokesperson for Judaism, and Joseph Stalin is not the spokesperson for Atheism.

So this whole title of ‘Christians want to kill gays’ is obviously technically true it is not based upon the religion but rather the persons.

If this legislation passes the author who appeared on The Rachel Maddow Show, whom herself is a Lesbian, will be tried in the International Court on violations of human rights. That will be his future and all those involved in helping to push this legislation even from the C Street here in America will also be brought into mention on the international scene exposing them for what they are, frauds and murderers.

US Oklahoma Senator Jim Inhofe (R) also met with Bahati during his trip to Uganda as part of his Africa trip. So it’s pretty much a guarantee that our own Federal Senator was involved with the author of this bill and probably the bill itself.

Uganda is being used as a testing lab by the American C Street to test exactly how their radical ‘Christian’ legislation works and if it ‘works well’ they will be able to come back to the American people and tell them how great it worked over there so maybe a version of it here will work well here too.


reply posted on 11-12-2010 @ 12:22 AM by Kailassa
Originally posted by Pervius
If being gay in our military is legalized, every sailor will marry his bunkmate to get out of military barracks so they can rent a home and make extra money every month.

They also will receive $250 extra every month for food and won't have to eat military chow.

They also will get paid separation pay when they are stationed apart or deployed.

How is the United States going to fund that when our Navy ships are undermanned ghost ships right now because we can't afford to man them??

Huckabee is a joke and if he truly was worried about gays he would be asking how WE are going to fund a gay military that straights will abuse claiming they are gay to make more money and get out of military barracks/chow.

I know I would claim I'm gay if I could get an extra $2000 a month for rent and $250 a month for food and hundreds for separation pay every month....You'd be a fool not to claim you're not gay.


Oh Noo, it's the end of the world!

First, you're just pulling figures out of your backside here, as far as I can see.
IOW, as Wiki would say, citation needed.
Even if your figures were correct, they would be for a couple, not for each soldier.

Second, all soldiers already have this option.
They can already marry and do just this. No-one's stopping them.
And they don't even have to pretend they are gay to do so.
So it's unlikely an extension of an already existing right is going omake a huge difference.

Or are you suggesting the average military person is a male who would far prefer to share with another man than with a woman? Perhaps the military is predominantly gay already?


reply posted on 11-12-2010 @ 12:49 PM by The Djin
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Africans are poorly educated, they live in the dark ages. It wouldn't matter if they were Christians, Buddhists or Muslims in this case, their lack of education is the key... . . . .


. . . . . . . .to their enslavement by predatory bigots that hide behind a fish.


reply posted on 11-12-2010 @ 01:34 PM by zroth
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And shaman want to bang chickens....

bashing is bashing in every country....

peace
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