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Senator Sanders' Heroic 3Hr Long Filibuster On Taxes

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posted on Dec, 10 2010 @ 03:20 PM
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Originally posted by bigfatfurrytexan
What the Dems seem to want is to only give tax breaks to certain people, while denying them to others (the "wealthy").

That is unAmerican. I don't care who the party is, or what their platform is, it is tyranny to tax people more just because they make more money.


Fair enough. Now, what's your take on the growing income disparity? People with more money make even more money, and people with less money make even less money. Does it not sound like a tyranny of some sort to you? Not at all?




posted on Dec, 10 2010 @ 03:24 PM
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Originally posted by buddhasystem

Originally posted by bigfatfurrytexan
What the Dems seem to want is to only give tax breaks to certain people, while denying them to others (the "wealthy").

That is unAmerican. I don't care who the party is, or what their platform is, it is tyranny to tax people more just because they make more money.


Fair enough. Now, what's your take on the growing income disparity? People with more money make even more money, and people with less money make even less money. Does it not sound like a tyranny of some sort to you? Not at all?


Absolutely it is.

You start with education. Look up Charlotte Iserbyte. That will tell you all you need to know about how the educational system in America is the first failure. And it is on purpose.

We do it wrong at just about every turn.

Banking...why does banking only seem to benefit wealthy people? Banks are great if you have so much money that you need help managing it. But if you don't, then all a bank is is a drain on your bottom line.

Outsourcing is another issue. Call center jobs are good jobs. They can provide a good income for younger people who have not gained job skill, or older people who just never really picked up a lot of job skills. And call centers are perfect fits for rural America, where the middle class is getting clobbered the worst.

Taxes...the entire tax system is screwed. All taxes should be tied to consumption, not ownership. Property taxes should be abolished, and allow people who have kids decide where to educate their kids (and stop making elderly people who have raised their kids support the schools).

There are so many ways that things could be made better.



posted on Dec, 10 2010 @ 03:29 PM
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Bernie Sanders, in viral speech, says top 1 percent earn more than 23 percent of U.S. income


www.politifact.com...

Supposedly he is now on HOUR 6 filibustering. Hope the old man got plenty of sleep...wish he could go on forever....the longer he goes...the more attention it will get.

Hey...a filibuster? Isn't that what Republicans always threaten to do but never actually have to because Harry Reid caves in every time?

Yeah...that's it.
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posted on Dec, 10 2010 @ 03:53 PM
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Am I wrong, or are part of the world who embraced socialism trying to ease away from the philosophy.....maybe we should listen more to their experiences.


It's not socialism that is causing the economic problems. It's free trade. Governments can no longer protect the incomes of their citizens....but why?

Because the unions are incredibly WEAK...not strong as is often stated on Fox News.

Unions fight tariffs to protect their wages and benefits....when was the last time tariffs were used?

It was used on CHINESE STEEL and TIRES. STEEL by bush...TIRES by Obama.



posted on Dec, 10 2010 @ 04:14 PM
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Originally posted by David9176

It's Unions fight tariffs to protect their wages and benefits....when was the last time tariffs were used?

It was used on CHINESE STEEL and TIRES. STEEL by bush...TIRES by Obama.


The unions actually fight for the tariffs. Taxes on imports save the American unions jobs, so of course they would be in favor of the tafiff.

NY Times article below:
Union Supports Decision to Impose Tire Tariffs


At the A.F.L.-C.I.O. convention in this city haunted by the ghosts of shuttered steel mills, Thea Lee, the labor federation’s chief economist, praised Mr. Obama’s decision, saying it would help preserve American manufacturing. She said a surge in Chinese tire exports had contributed to the shutdown of several American tire factories and the loss of thousands of jobs.




posted on Dec, 10 2010 @ 04:15 PM
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Right...I'm sorry that's what I was trying to state. When Reagon weakened the unions....that's when both parents had to start working to support their families.

Then Clinton comes in with Free trade NAFTA policies and we lost our jobs.

Bush comes in and thinks..hey...I'll cut taxes to boost economy. Instead it explodes our debt and economy slowly deteriorates.

Unions have never been weaker than they are now.

People always think Democrats = unions. THAT'S NOT TRUE. If that were true a hell of a lot more things would have easily passed into law. The Blue Dogs (Corporate DEMS), have obstructed things many liberals want....they blocked and refused to vote on bills...then lost office anyway.

IT'S NUTS.
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posted on Dec, 10 2010 @ 04:18 PM
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Originally posted by Anonymous Avatar
Ok so then why are you all praising him? So you want to pay more taxes?????


The 'recovery plan' is based on these cuts ending. Extending them will only make things exponentially worse(although, in my opinion, that is the plan).



posted on Dec, 10 2010 @ 04:20 PM
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Amazing sometimes how a simple omission of one word can change the whole meaning of things!
Glad to get that cleared up



posted on Dec, 10 2010 @ 04:22 PM
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Hahahaha he's still talking! 7 hours on!

He rocks!!


A man this old with that much energy! NICE!!!!!!!



posted on Dec, 10 2010 @ 04:26 PM
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Hahahaha he's still talking! 7 hours on!


That is awesome!!!!!! Keep it up Bernie!!!!!!! go all night.....



posted on Dec, 10 2010 @ 04:30 PM
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I'm gonna go even further on this.

If Bernie Sanders runs for President...I will vote for him. I would go out of my way to get him elected.

If that isn't a change from those who know my history here...well then you don't me.


He is fighting for us...he is what OBAMA WAS SUPPOSED TO BE.



posted on Dec, 10 2010 @ 04:34 PM
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Unions are absolutely worthless. You can always tell when someone is getting paid by the hour, or if they're a union worker. Unions are one of the MAIN reasons job went overseas, the second is government regulations. I wouldn't pee on a union if it was on fire.
Not only that, I believe a LAW must be passed that absolutely forbids any government/tax paid employee from joining a Union. And if someone even suggests unionization again if you don't kill that person immediately then you go to prison for life... Its a privilege to serve, not a right! Yet somehow commonsense has been turned on it’s head… because now government unions believe its a privilege to be a citizen… and that crap is getting old!

Regarding lowering taxes... what pure nonsense, and a horrible attempt to rewrite history. Greed is what caused the finical collapses of Each decade, (and the Last Great Depression btw), that is a fact. And instead of passing laws that make sense, our leaders pass laws that create Absolute Greed easier to get away with on Wall Street and in Government. The President doesn't pass laws he simply signs them, while at the same time using the pulpit to force Congress to see things his way.

Bush/Clinton/Bush each had the chance to rally the public to make Greed harder to get away with. But they each refused because each, I'm positive, were promised large rewards once they left office... The only reason to become President it would seem... how rich you become on the other side... and how many bombs you can drop without achieving anything. Becoming cynical... HELL YES!

--Charles Marcello

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posted on Dec, 10 2010 @ 04:37 PM
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I believe a LAW must be passed that absolutely forbids any government/tax paid employee from joining a Union .And if someone even suggests unionization again if you don't kill that person immediately then you go to prison for life.


Well you had best quit being a UNITED STATES CITIZEN...because UNITED STATES OF AMERICA IS A UNION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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posted on Dec, 10 2010 @ 04:40 PM
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Originally posted by David9176
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I believe a LAW must be passed that absolutely forbids any government/tax paid employee from joining a Union.


Well you had best quit being a UNITED STATES CITIZEN...because UNITED STATES OF AMERICA IS A UNION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Now that is one the most funniest and dumbest thing I've read in a long time... Holy crap that was stupid... But I'm still laughing!

--Charles Marcello



posted on Dec, 10 2010 @ 04:40 PM
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Unions are one of the MAIN reasons job went overseas


One of the most ridiculous things I've ever read.



posted on Dec, 10 2010 @ 04:40 PM
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posted on Dec, 10 2010 @ 04:41 PM
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The United States is a Union. If you can prove otherwise feel free.



posted on Dec, 10 2010 @ 04:49 PM
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Lets see, seeing how you used to post Glenn Beck all the time... But stopped for some reason... Hmm, could it be because he told the world just how pathetic unions are... just how corrupt they've all become... and just how worthless it is to even work with unions?

Not only that, I get to see union workers and hourly paid people every week, and I wouldn't give two cents to save a union job, but I might pay that much for a bullet to help make them all disappear.

And what the hell does calling a collection of States a Union have to do with forcing people and governments to pay ridiculous prices for workers? Union of States, and stealing that word to make your crimes seem less evil, Is Laughable!!! Let alone how corrupt and pathetic unions are politically... Not only that, unless you've had a coming to Liberal Jesus moment... unions are absolutely hell bent on turning the United States into a socialist country... To even suggest otherwise is unforgivable lies!

--Charles Marcello.

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posted on Dec, 10 2010 @ 05:03 PM
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Go Bernie!

It's easy and sort of a cop out to call it tyranny when it pertains to taxes but stimulus when we bail out the corporations that line their pockets with the fruit of our labor while they suppress wages and benefits and gut jobs.

Third quarter 2010 profits were the highest since official records started being kept.

"Trickle-down" my sweet hiney, more like "Break-down".

The fact is, the Bush tax cuts have done nothing for us but get us to this point right now.



posted on Dec, 10 2010 @ 05:19 PM
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Originally posted by David9176
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The United States is a Union. If you can prove otherwise feel free.


Without unions, the United States would not have existed as it has over the last century. They are the only reason a middle class exists, the only reason there are minimun wages out there.

Over the last 10 years anti-union propaganda has gone up ten-fold. Tell me, what has happened to the middle class, in that time?




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