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The Future for American Youth: AMERICANS READ THIS

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posted on Dec, 10 2010 @ 09:11 AM
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Very well stated.

In regards to them being leaderless, I know I can lead, but I can't do anything of such a scale as my proposed plan with out help from other, equally motivated individuals. I am no boomer. I am generation X.

My name is Patrick Martin, I am 25 years old and originally born and raised in California. I will gladly be one to condemn my government openly, and I am proud to initiate some form of protest. You can even place all the blame squarely on my shoulders. I willfully offer myself up to America as a martyr for freedom should the circumstances arise that I am forced to do so. THIS MUST HAPPEN. OUR FUTURE AND THE FUTURE OF OUR KIDS DEPEND ON CHANGE.




posted on Dec, 10 2010 @ 09:14 AM
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...We need a strong base of organizational leaders. Smart, young people who feel the same way about the situation, and can set some very simple, but radical changes to enact within our country. Building off of the Constitution in its original form, before modern politicians started wiping their asses with it. This group needs to be the driving force of motivation behind a revolt, and has to be able to maintain morale in the face of almost ABSOLUTE ADVERSITY....


On this we agree. But how to do it?

Where is the Achilles Heel of TPTB? It is the local and state governments. TPTB has tried to control it by using controlled "grassroots" organizations the NGOs. But the USA is just too big.


The key is to remember we have been given the weapons to fight TPTB, and no I am not talking about guns.

FREE SPEECH:
Again not protests, they are useless. I am talking about communicating information. I visit Flea markets, Farmers markets and Auctions and handout index cards with a punch list to google. I ask people to tell ten of their friends and to ask them to do the same.

Second: Take a leaf out of The fully informed jury movement www.fija.org...

Inform the public and THEN pass state laws.

We have a RIGHT to a trial by jury in criminal matters or in civil matters over $20. Jurors have the RIGHT to NULLIFY laws. That is what "case law" is all about.



Informed jury amendments have been filed as an initiative in seven states and legislation has been introduced in the Alaska state legislature....

Today, the constitutions of only two states -- Maryland and Indiana -- clearly declare the nullification right, although two others -- Georgia and Oregon -- refer to it obliquely. The informed jury movement would like all states to require that judges instruct juries on their power to serve, in effect, as the final legislature of the land concerning the law in a particular case....

Those who have endorsed the right of a jury to judge both the law and the facts include Chief Justice John Jay, Samuel Chase, Dean Roscoe Pound, Learned Hand and Oliver Wendell Holmes. According to the Yale Law Journal in 1964, during the first third of the 19th century judges did inform juries of the right, forcing lawyers to argue "the law -- its interpretation and validity -- to the jury." By the latter part of the century, however, judges and state law were increasingly moving against nullification. In 1895 the US Supreme Court upheld the principle but ruled that juries were not to be informed of it by defense attorneys, nor were judges required to tell them about it... prorev.com...



The Ten Amendment (State Nullification) is another critical issue.
www.tenthamendmentcenter.com...

Another weapon, one every single one of us should be pushing for, is a state law allowing voters to recall federal Senators and Representatives as well as state officals.

TPTB has always run the Democrats and Republicans BUT often not at the state level!

OH and here is another State Level idea. I really want to see the Federal Reserve - Hung, Drawn and Quartered - but in the mean time this looks like an alternative.


While bank bailouts fatten Wall Street, states continue to battle the credit crisis. In the search for innovative solutions, some political candidates are proposing that states generate their own credit by setting up their own banks.


See:
CAMPAIGNING FOR STATE-OWNED BANKS: www.webofdebt.com...
THE GROWING MOVEMENT FOR PUBLICLY-OWNED BANKS: www.webofdebt.com...


The biggest weapon that TPTB has is our feeling that we are helpless. DO NOT LET THEM USE IT!




posted on Dec, 10 2010 @ 09:15 AM
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What I don't like about America is that many American women are starting to behave like men and men are emasculated by American society. That's my impression about the United States.



posted on Dec, 10 2010 @ 09:18 AM
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The first problem I see, is American youth have become very " book " smart. They attend good colleges but yet lack the " street " smarts. The difference between the two, is simple. Street smarts allow one to interpret what he/she see's by known experiences. Book smarts on the other hand, though fills them with academics, I think most would agree that not all the " academics" is useful information.
Most people are able to identify, interpret, and perceive daily life experiences by past situations. Those whom lack the " street smarts ", are less likely to face the challenges of tomorrow. ( In my eyes anyways )
Secondly, We as a society have allowed the politicians, in all of there corruptness, to implement rules that would allow for their views to be taught instead of known history.
I fear its much to late, and often wonder, what have I gotten my sons into ?



posted on Dec, 10 2010 @ 09:19 AM
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Great thread, I completely agree.

I'm 19, and honestly I think it would be impossible to get the youth organized. As you said Ipads, and MTV are much too important to most people my age. Unless you're offering people drugs, sex, religion, or entertainment they could give a rats a$$.

If anything we would all be labeled as terrorists, and extremists, then they'd either shoot us all, or throw us in jail. I talk to people everyday, not about conspiracies, but about the obvious corruption that goes on, and maybe some older folks have a nice chat with me, but if they're younger they just change the subject ASAP.

We would just be outting ourselves basically. All the people TPTB would like to get rid of, would be right on their doorstep, with the rest of the populace foaming at the mouths to take down our revolution.



posted on Dec, 10 2010 @ 09:20 AM
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Thank you for adding such crucial and constructive information.

I stand firm on the belief that an organized march to DC is the best way to spring board other Americans into action at the state and local levels. It's going to take a major slap in the face to wake people up to how bad things have gotten. Most of my countrymen are lethargic and lazy, and many have already GIVEN UP.

To snap these fellows out of their stupor, IMO, the best course of action is to head strait to the heart of corruption and make our stand. Call them out, let them bring in the riot police, and let us show them how passionate we are about them RUINING OUR FUTURE! That is the only way other citizens will stand up to be heard. As one unified voice. It's time to do whats best for Americans, and not whats best for Democrats and Republicans.



posted on Dec, 10 2010 @ 09:22 AM
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Cutting off tax write-offs to these elitist "foundations" would go a long way in disembowling the elite's grip on the people of the US and the world. They fund all the nastiest, divide and conquer, anti-constitutional movements in our country and Europe. It is called cultural cleansing the natives.



posted on Dec, 10 2010 @ 09:24 AM
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Hmmmm.

I can only hope that you event is more successful than my attempt was last year. You see, I planned to organize a similar protest on Washington for July 4th, 2010, however, the overlords at ATS saw fit to delete the thread no matter how I stated it. Perhaps now they will give some leniency in light of the current world situation and the obvious need for some action to be taken.

One million people on DC? Yes, it would make a statement, but it would be downplayed by the media. They would do anything in their power to skew the numbers. Would those in power listen or even attempt to change at all? That is doubtful. Of a million that march and open their mouths to protest, the feds will still understand the fact that 306,000,000 still sit at home dormant and accepting the the world in which they are subject.

Nonetheless, I admire your active role and spirit. To me, any action at all is action worth taking and so I support your cause. I have said before that for our generation they are leaderless and like you, I am willing to lead and take responsibility for what ever actions might be taken, and at the very least be a spokesperson for the cause. I am not afraid of what the government can do to me and I am certainly not afraid of death. Therefore, allow me to make a the same statement that you did to show my support.

My name is Dustin Schaeffer, I am 22 years old and was born, raised, and currently reside in Pennsylvania. I will gladly be one to condemn my government openly, and I am proud to initiate some form of protest. You can even place all the blame squarely on my shoulders. I willfully offer myself up to America as a martyr for freedom should the circumstances arise that I am forced to do so. THIS MUST HAPPEN. OUR FUTURE AND THE FUTURE OF OUR KIDS DEPEND ON CHANGE.



posted on Dec, 10 2010 @ 09:27 AM
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Yeah okay, I'm in.

July 4th, 2011. Let's go march. Let's get it going.

It is time.

Tell your friends.



posted on Dec, 10 2010 @ 09:27 AM
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Do you have the fortitude to stand up in the face of being labelled as a terrorist and tell them they are wrong? Do you have the heart to speak to your peers and try to make them aware of how dire the situation is becoming for kids your age and younger? Can you take a group of your friends and lead them, instead of succumbing to the distractions of technology and instant gratification?

The burden is on us brother. No one can make a difference but us. I am ready to stand in the face of adversity, terrorist, patriot, freedom fighter, dumbass, label me anything you wish. I know who I am, and know where my heart is, it sounds like you do to. Will you stand and be counted, or will you stay in doors and wait for them to come and put your diapers on every morning??? (not an insult towards you, just something to consider)

You have my support, friend. There are others out there that will support you as well if you take the chance to bravely stand up and tell them our struggles.



posted on Dec, 10 2010 @ 09:27 AM
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Double, my bad.
edit on 10-12-2010 by W3RLIED2 because: explained



posted on Dec, 10 2010 @ 09:31 AM
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There is only one thing wrong with kids in the USA today compared to any other country. PARENTING. As someone has mentioned in this thread, kids in other parts of the world are given the same toys that are in the US. Kids all over are subjected to the same television, ect. Parents in the USA expect everything else to raise their own kids. How many times do you hear/read that kids watch too much tv, play too violent games, listen to music that corrupts them. I can go on and on. The thing is, I watched violent things growing up, played some video games (didn't have the same in the 80s as we do now). Watched sports and saw the media promote Hollywood (and other glamouras images, remember "lifestyles of the rich and famous". But my parents kept me grounded, tought me what's right from wromg, when to stand up just not for myself but for others who could not stand up on their own.

If adults don't have the time, energy, money to do these things, then DON"T HAVE KIDS!!!. Having a child isn't a right that all americans have. It's a privledge and responsibility.



posted on Dec, 10 2010 @ 09:32 AM
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I remember when farmers were protesting NAIS (animal ID) someone mentioned it was the last protest in DC (near Congress??? near the White House??) Perhaps someone knows exactly what that meant. I think it may have had something to do with the Patriot act.

All I have found so far is this D.C. limits residential protests , but I will keep looking. We are seeing our rights further and further eroded as "protest areas" are set up far from the action to protect the Elite from the "Great Unwashed"


D.C. limits residential protests

There will be no more late-night or masked protests around D.C.'s residential neighborhoods.

The nation's capital, which faces a unique challenge in managing protests, has passed a bill designed to protect the privacy of District residents. The American Civil Liberties Union has already expressed concerns about how the move affects First Amendment rights.

Georgetown's The Hoya reports:


The law was introduced by Ward 3 Councilwoman Mary Cheh and specifically addresses protests held outside of residences at all hours of the day. It prohibits protesters from wearing masks, requires protesters to give police at least two hours notice of peaceful, maskless protests and makes it a crime for people to protest between the hours of 10 p.m. and 7 a.m.





posted on Dec, 10 2010 @ 09:39 AM
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On that we agree. The issue now is that there is an entire generation with no identity. Blame parents, blame media, blame all of the above. The fact still remains that they at some point are going to be left with a complete and utter pile to deal with if we don't try to change it NOW. If their parents don't want to lead them then some one else has to take the reigns and remind them there is more to life than Modern Warfare II, there is more to life than blogging every day about your feelings, THERE IS STILL BATTLES THAT MUST BE FOUGHT, THERE IS STILL TIME TO RECLAIM OUR COUNTRY FOR THE FREE PEOPLE WHO BUILT IT.

We have to do these things. Making no attempt what soever is a folly that will haunt our generation until the day we die. Do want to be able to tell your children and grandchildren that when the government said we're going to ruin your lives, we just rolled over and let them do it? Is that how you want to be seen in the eyes of our future generations? Or do you want to be able to look your kids in the eye and tell them for one brave moment in your life you took a stand for what was right, you took a stand against corruption at its greatest levels? I choose the latter.



posted on Dec, 10 2010 @ 09:43 AM
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Who cares about what laws they have regarding protest. THIS WILL BE A REAL PROTEST.

Under no circumstances will we be sectioned off, or restricted to a special 'free speech zone'. Not one chance in hell will that happen.

1 million strong must go right down Pennsylvania Ave and be ready to stand their ground in protest of the United States Government's dismissal of our best interest as citizens of this country.



posted on Dec, 10 2010 @ 09:46 AM
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Indeed, I will not just stay home and do nothing, something has to be done to change where the world is headed, but will it just be a waste of time? People may have to pay with their lives, and that's a huge cost, especially if the whole movement just ends up being a propaganda tool on the evening news to get more security measures in place.

I doubt we would change anything, as others have said the media would completely downplay it, their police forces would show up in full force to put a stop to the message getting out. The odds are truly against any movement to restore sanity and justice to this nation.

Regardless yous have my full support.


My name is Alex Peterson, I am 19 years old and originally born and raised in New Mexico. I will gladly be one to condemn my government openly, and I am proud to initiate some form of protest. You can even place all the blame squarely on my shoulders. I willfully offer myself up to America as a martyr for freedom should the circumstances arise that I am forced to do so. THIS MUST HAPPEN. OUR FUTURE AND THE FUTURE OF OUR KIDS DEPEND ON CHANGE.
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posted on Dec, 10 2010 @ 10:09 AM
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Your support is welcomed with open arms. Good luck and please contact me as soon as possible.

Any one else who wishes to stay in a closer contact can feel free to u2u me for e-mail contacts.

This action is a moral imperative and should be taken seriously by those that wish to get involved.

I'll remind the membership one more time that should you choose to align yourself with this course of action you will most likely be demonized and forced to stand your ground in the face of great adversity. So far this thread has generated some hits and we've made good contacts. This is day one, step one. Over the next few days/weeks we have to continue spreading this message via the internet. At the same time after the beginning of the new year we have to take this message to the streets. PLEASE PRINT AND SPREAD THE INFORMATION AROUND AS YOU WILL.



posted on Dec, 10 2010 @ 10:13 AM
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I stand firm on the belief that an organized march to DC is the best way to spring board other Americans into action at the state and local levels.


It is certainly a possible arrow in your quiver but you also need back-up plans.

The Tea Party did a A million march to US Capitol to protest against 'Obama the socialist' However unlike the Fully Informed Jury Assoc they lacked any real leadership and got sucked back into the Elite owned Republican party. The Democrats are also Elite owned.

One Key point is to remember less than 1/4 of the population approve of the US government's direction. All you have to do is stick with "neutral" topics, like the Fully Informed Jury, more power for the states, attack the Fed and hopefully stick up for Small Business including the independent farmer.

An example of a new attack is: Health care law's massive, hidden tax change If a small business uses cash they are penalized. If they uses a credit card they are not. It is another incremental step in pushing us toward complete control by the Banksters -a cashless society.

I am going to be filling as many 1099's as I can and suggest other businesses do the same. I really look forward to DEMANDING Walmart and other big corporations give me their EIN - business SS#.

This is where the retired and the younger set can really stick it to the Fed. Spread the word and organize people to help small businesses to file millions of 1099s. FLOOD the IRS!


Health care law's massive, hidden tax change

...Section 9006 of the health care bill -- just a few lines buried in the 2,409-page document -- mandates that beginning in 2012 all companies will have to issue 1099 tax forms not just to contract workers but to any individual or corporation from which they buy more than $600 in goods or services in a tax year.

The stealth change radically alters the nature of 1099s and means businesses will have to issue millions of new tax documents each year.

Right now, the IRS Form 1099 is used to document income for individual workers other than wages and salaries...


In case you were wondering:



Small firms: (under 500 people)

• Represent 99.7 percent of all employer firms.
• Employ half of all private sector employees.
• Pay 44 percent of total U.S. private payroll.
• Generated 65 percent of net new jobs over the past 17 years.
• Create more than half of the nonfarm private GDP.
• Hire 43 percent of high tech workers (scientists, engi-
neers, computer programmers, and others).
• Are 52 percent home-based and 2 percent franchises.
• Made up 97.5 percent of all identified exporters and pro-
duced 31 percent of export value in FY 2008.
• Produce 13 times more patents per employee than large
patenting firms.

Source: U.S. Dept. of Labor, Bureau of Labor Statistics,
www.sba.gov...


Small Business is where the American future is and we need to protect it from the Big FOOT of the elite's Corporate Cartels.



posted on Dec, 10 2010 @ 10:26 AM
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Once again, enlightening words. Thank you.

Much of my time spent in California was spent living in Fresno, which is the heart of the Agricultural industry of the USA. Farmers are my heroes.

There is multiple reasons why this action could be lumped in with the most recent attempt by the TEA party to break away from party politics. There are also many reasons why this action is entirely different. The most striking initiative that comes to my mind is that the TEA party was playing by the rules. Should our efforts come to fruition, and should this action take place its going to be different from any tea party gathering across the country. That difference lies within our willingness to circumnavigate certain laws that would suppress our plea for change, namely the laws regarding where and how a protest can be organized.

For this to work and have the desired effect of snapping our fellows out of their stupor, we will need to be ready to stand our ground. 1 million people marching down Pennsylvania Ave. will not go un noticed, especially with no permits and the desire to NEVER BE FORCED INTO A FREE SPEECH ZONE. DC is my capitol, therefore anywhere in DC is my zone of free speech, as well as anywhere else I choose or you choose to make your zone of free speech. THERE CAN BE NO RESTRICTIONS OF IDEAS OR OF SPEECH FOR IT TO BE TRULY FREE.

This protest must be more radical than other attempts. We have to be willing to lay our convictions out on the table of the public forum with out worry of the repercussions. This is the only way. With our bodies and with our voices.



posted on Dec, 10 2010 @ 10:26 AM
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What I don't like about America is that many American women are starting to behave like men and men are emasculated by American society. That's my impression about the United States.


This is off topic but I will answer anyway.

Why should women not strive to reach their full potential? Why should one half of the population be shackled just so the other half can "FEEL LIKE A MAN"?

If men do not have the cojones to compete with women on a level playing field then they deserve to feel emasculated. Please note I am firmly against "Affirmative Action" or anything else that is a government"mandated" level playing field. People are people and should be treated as such.



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