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What has happened to the "American dream"

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posted on Dec, 10 2010 @ 08:09 PM
What has happened to the "American dream"??

It's turned into a surrealistic nightmare....
"It's a nightmare!!!! Tech SUPPORT!!!!!!!!

posted on Dec, 12 2010 @ 10:17 PM

Originally posted by DutchBigBoy
And besides this all, the government is still spending billions of Dollars each year for weaponry. Keep this up and there will be no more country to be defended.

…and technologies.
This is not a “rotting” – this is a “natural” release from unnecessary masses.
The world is changed and the economy structure is different today. The technology showing different reality and there is no need in all those people in the new reality.

posted on Dec, 12 2010 @ 10:19 PM
it was a dream

posted on Dec, 13 2010 @ 04:53 PM

Originally posted by aliengenes
it was a dream

It was a dream while it lasted, now others (TPTB) have their dream and it involves destroying the dream of the working man.

posted on Dec, 13 2010 @ 05:11 PM
reply to post by DutchBigBoy

Not trying to spam but what you wrote sounded like a movie tagline...

I know it's the truth which makes it scary

posted on Dec, 13 2010 @ 05:34 PM
"what happened to the American dream" ?

ANSWER: (tree hugging hippies)

the first generation who didn't get to experience it...

edit on 12/13/2010 by Cosmic.Artifact because: (no reason given)

posted on Dec, 13 2010 @ 06:23 PM
Well we did it to ourselves, and ultimately, bad government policies in the end was what failed the people of the United States. Many people tend to blame the big corporations, yet not one person is willing to admit that part of that blame lies on we the people, for what we decided to purchase and use. We cry foul when it goes against us, yet at the same time want the best deal for the best price. We all do such, and thus companies that are wanting to survive and be successful must do what they can to survive. Many people look at Business to solve the problem, yet no one looks at the laws, regulations or the costs to do business. How many people are willing to work for minimum wage, and be happy with such, or would they prefer to work for a few dollars more an hour, and have benefits? At the same time, even though it may seem like big business and the rich do not pay their fair share, but what they do, besides drive the engine of business and investment to keep the country going, they also are some of the most charitable people out there, as it does give them tax breaks. Did you ever think to ask why there are so many non profit organizations out there, and how they keep running, even in hard times? Those who have money donate to those organizations, and it can be in the billions, for a very charitable cause that benefits everyone. There are 3 examples that I know of. The first is Bill Gates. Yes he has a lot of money, but he took his own finances and created a foundation and then got others to donate it to it. The next is Jon Huntsman, a very wealthy individual, who is going to donate all of his wealth before he dies, to help the community, and funding research to fight deadly disease, and then there is Sterling Jewelers. Every year, they give a very large donation to St. Jude’s Children hospital, that funds research, wings and the costs for people who can not afford medical treatment for their children, and it is not a small amount. Other companies are doing the same thing, collecting donations and matching it right out of profits. Punish large corporations or the rich, and that charity could very well disappear, and then where we be for the cure for a disease.
Many would complain about the defense industry, yet that very industry complex, has managed to win 2 potential conflicts without even so much as firing a shot, pushing the fields of technology. A lot of the modern connivances that we all enjoy, all started out as military technology and pushing the limits of science and research. Think about it, the cell phone, the internet, the microwave, canned food, and the modern desk top computers, were at one time were funded by the military, that many people now enjoy. Even modern telecommunications are quicker and faster, was from the military technology.
You asked what happened to the American Dream, and what killed it, it was the local, state and federal governments that killed it. Regulations, laws and taxes all killed the driving force of the country, combined with a lack of people willing to do jobs that they considered beneath them. That is what caused the death of the American dream, and it will be the removal of bad laws, regulations, taxes and fees that will revive it.
Many people need to ask themselves this: What does it take to start up a business, and what all is required, and what all would stop it from getting started? Many times, a person would need an idea, then a lot of money to get started, and licenses. Now if it is manufacturing, that will require extra permits, impact studies, environmental studies and a sign off on 4 different agencies, before it goes to the EPA, and hope that there is no law suit that would put a stop to it. That is what the problem with business today. Many who want to go into business can not afford it, and those that are, don’t want to expand as the government policies that are now coming out, would cost them more than what they would be projected to make, so they play it safe and not expand. Even the bigger corporations are having to lay off people, due to the current set of laws that have been passed, or are planning to just to cover the losses that they are going to endure if they get passed.
Ask the government why do not want the people to succeed, and business to grow to revitalize communities and cities like Detroit. Ask the President of the United States, why he ignores the cries of the general population what are crying for work, when it is obvious that all of the stimulus’s bills have not worked, and the money is so badly mismanaged.

posted on Dec, 14 2010 @ 03:54 AM
reply to post by sdcigarpig

The wealthy have created their own foundations to put their money in there. As I recall foundation are non-profitable and so not taxable. IMO it is an easy way to put away your money save from the IRS. I agree they also help other foundations but it is minor to what they do for themselves. They didn't get rich by donating a lot you know.

posted on Dec, 14 2010 @ 04:07 AM
So, me and a mate are sitting here in our college learning center and we think we've finally cracked the whole 'get rich quick' thing. When your country has litterally been turned to # (im not saying our isnt too...) We will start a holiday company offering to 'drop' people in for the experience of a lifetime. The package will include one parachute drop, a .308 hunting rifle with 200 rounds, a jumpsuit, fission powered palmtop computer with GPS, a medical kit and rations for one week. Its a one way trip baby and good luck out there! But if you suvive the raiders (Crazy colonials) and Gouls (Diseased people) then you may just come across a group of freindly people or be given a chance in the Enclave! (Shattered remains of the US government). You might think im crazy but i think this is the ultimate attraction for videogamers everywhere! Tickets will be a fixed price of £1000 which is pretty damn good!
edit on 14/12/2010 by stimmy because: (no reason given)

posted on Dec, 14 2010 @ 06:29 AM
reply to post by DutchBigBoy

Yes, that is true, but it does have to be a non profit organization and it has to meet the irs tax codes for such, or it fails, so the organization, being non profit, has to run under different guidelines and have open books, any profit and it looses its status as such, that means a non profit, at the end of the year can not show a profit.
But beyond that, most are entitled to donate 10% of their disposable incomes to the different charities of their choosing. So you complain about them not giving more? How much more would you have the government take from them? And would you punish a person for being sucessful?
After all the very top earners in the country foot 31% of the tax bill.
Yet you still refuse to accept the facts about what all impact business in the United States. Take a look around your home at where the products were made, and then start looking at what the cost of the different raw materials are, including the facilities to produce and labor, and permits. They are not cheap, and often running into the hundreds of thousands, if not millions of dollars.

posted on Dec, 16 2010 @ 02:19 AM
reply to post by sdcigarpig

Yes you are completely right, but the American government is still spending 6 billion dollars a year in military. Isn't it a bit akward that even when economy and country is falling apart they still are building up weaponry instead of getting their economy in order?

posted on Dec, 16 2010 @ 02:31 AM
The American dream was the natural result of economic, religious and political freedom of people freed from the European constaints - of course this could in no way be tolerated by the bloodline elite families.

Sometime during the last half-century, someone stole our culture. Just 50 years ago, in the 1950s, America was a great place. It was safe. It was decent. Children got good educations in the public schools. Even blue-collar fathers brought home middle-class incomes, so moms could stay home with the kids. Television shows reflected sound, traditional values.

Where did it all go? How did that America become the sleazy, decadent place we live in today – so different that those who grew up prior to the '60s feel like it's a foreign country? Did it just "happen"?


A new strategy

Gramsci famously laid out a strategy for destroying Christianity and Western culture, one that has proven all too successful. Instead of calling for a Communist revolution up front, as in Russia, he said Marxists in the West should take political power last, after a "long march through the institutions" – the schools, the media, even the churches, every institution that could influence the culture. That "long march through the institutions" is what America has experienced, especially since the 1960s. Fortunately, Mussolini recognized the danger Gramsci posed and jailed him. His influence remained small until the 1960s, when his works, especially the "Prison Notebooks," were rediscovered.

Georg Lukacs proved more influential. In 1918, he became deputy commissar for culture in the short-lived Bela Kun Bolshevik regime in Hungary. There, asking, "Who will save us from Western civilization?" he instituted what he called "cultural terrorism." One of its main components was introducing sex education into Hungarian schools. Lukacs realized that if he could destroy the country's traditional sexual morals, he would have taken a giant step toward destroying its traditional culture and Christian faith.

Far from rallying to Lukacs' "cultural terrorism," the Hungarian working class was so outraged by it that when Romania invaded Hungary, the workers would not fight for the Bela Kun government, and it fell. Lukacs disappeared, but not for long. In 1923, he turned up at a "Marxist Study Week" in Germany, a program sponsored by a young Marxist named Felix Weil who had inherited millions. Weil and the others who attended that study week were fascinated by Lukacs' cultural perspective on Marxism.

The Frankfurt School

Weil responded by using some of his money to set up a new think tank at Frankfurt University in Frankfurt, Germany. Originally it was to be called the "Institute for Marxism." But the cultural Marxists realized they could be far more effective if they concealed their real nature and objectives. They convinced Weil to give the new institute a neutral-sounding name, the "Institute for Social Research." Soon known simply as the "Frankfurt School," the Institute for Social Research would become the place where political correctness, as we now know it, was developed. The basic answer to the question "Who stole our culture?" is the cultural Marxists of the Frankfurt School.


posted on Jan, 2 2011 @ 05:35 AM
As the reporter says in the end.....

Is this the America you want?

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