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Originally posted by BadBoYeed
people who say they are just contrails obviously don't remember their childhood, because these chemtrails are a new (er) phenomenon
contrails didn't look like this 20 years ago
Originally posted by coyotepoet
The first day a trail shot right above the sun and then at the same angle a little while later when it was just under the sun.
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Originally posted by coyotepoet
I also started seeing these today too, which is new. It would come from the horizon at a more or less straight line and then take a steep angle straight up, making a really long and thick trail in that direction too. I could clearly see that it was jets doing this (instead of missiles)
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Originally posted by coyotepoet
What's more, once I noticed the pattern on the second day, I was able to predict approximately when and where it would occur the next day, and guess what Mr, Skeptic, I correctly predicted (at least to myself) the time and placement.
Originally posted by coyotepoet
I really wish I had a photo if this one. It was right above my head when it made the sharp angle upwards.
I have been a careful observer of the skies and have never seen this particular "optical illusion" before, especially from so close.
Originally posted by coyotepoet
Sorry, but if it were just condensation trails, one would expect them to be uniformly applied at the same time of day. The other day the sky was mostly clear (blue, no clouds, minimal trails) and I observed two jets flying at what appeared to be approximately the same altitude.
Originally posted by coyotepoet
I observed two jets flying at what appeared to be approximately the same altitude. One left a ribbony trail from one end of the sky to the other. the other one left no trail at all. If it were weather driven, wouldn't you logically expect that it would be both or neither, not one and the other?
Originally posted by coyotepoet
I thought about the schedules too but ruled it out due both to the recent appearance of these on a route that I have been driving since July
Originally posted by coyotepoet
Don't know how much you know about that stuff
Originally posted by coyotepoet
I was just teasing with the names, I didn't mean to hurt your feelings. But you're right, I shall refrain from that in the future.
While disinformation claiming these chemtrails are simply contrails from increased air traffic seems to have been a workable ‘dispersant’ on public perception, it’s remained buried in obscure articles or internet pages. A very few scientific TV shows have talked about them, but with the usual dismissive conclusions. Divide, Demonize and Conquer Usually, those concerned about ‘chemtrails’ are immediately stigmatized as ‘conspiracy nuts’ and effectively marginalized and lumped together with anything someone might consider a wingnut. Very effective mental electric fence: “don’t go there buddy, you’ll be one of them” Even more insidious is the fascist control false choice mantra “you’re either with us or you’re with the terrorists”. Very clever, Herr Fascist. But those aren’t the only choices. But sure works to squelch dissent when enforced by draconian laws such as we have now. Here's Wikipedia on false choice or false dilemma: The logical fallacy of false dilemma (also called false dichotomy, the either-or fallacy) involves a situation in which only two alternatives are considered, when in fact there are other options. Closely related are failing to consider a range of options and the tendency to think in extremes, called black-and-white thinking. Strictly speaking, the prefix “di” in “dilemma” means “two”. When a list of more than two choices is offered, but there are other choices not mentioned, then the fallacy is called the fallacy of false choice, or the fallacy of exhaustive hypotheses. False dilemma can arise intentionally, when fallacy is used in an attempt to force a choice (“If you are not with us, you are against us.“) [The phrase "you're either with us, or against us" and similar variations are used to depict situations as being polarized and to force witnesses and bystanders to become allies or lose favor. The implied consequence of not joining the team effort is to be deemed an enemy.]
The Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) said that it lost track of nearly 120,000 airplanes in the United States recently and is concerned that this fact could be exploitable by drug traffickers or terrorists, the Associated Press reported. The FAA has ordered all owners of the 357,000 private jets in the United States to re-register their aircraft. Around 119,000 have "questionable registration," the FAA told AP. The agency was fearful over the fact that criminals could purchase planes without the government knowing. Several factors, like missing forms, wrong addresses, unreported sales, and other problems, have led to the agency telling owners to re-register their aircraft.