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posted on Dec, 9 2010 @ 09:24 PM
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Also, you cannot block this monitoring.

They actually install hardware at your phone company or internet service providers. Expensive hardware.

The only way to actually avoid this snooping, is to stop using all communications devices 100%. It's not practical.

The hardware they install is quite sophisticated and relays all the information to the supercomputer network for analysis.

You can't block it, unless you block your entire connection.




posted on Dec, 9 2010 @ 09:25 PM
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I know, I know . . .

That is nothing new. You can scan for it as much as you'd like and not find their tools; part of it resident within the net itself . . . more advanced monitoring resident within CMOS and other locations.

I used to work for a company a few years back that was a partner of a giant; this was back in the time of of Windows ME mind you, but the things I learned blew me away.



posted on Dec, 9 2010 @ 09:27 PM
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Originally posted by muzzleflash
Also, you cannot block this monitoring.

They actually install hardware at your phone company or internet service providers. Expensive hardware.

The only way to actually avoid this snooping, is to stop using all communications devices 100%. It's not practical.

The hardware they install is quite sophisticated and relays all the information to the supercomputer network for analysis.

You can't block it, unless you block your entire connection.


Yes, it is in the chips now I believe. This was something that was starting to become a reality some years ago . . . now, I am sure it is everywhere.



posted on Dec, 9 2010 @ 09:28 PM
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the covert listening program is called "echelon"
it has bases in 5 major friendly countries, some are unmanned.

all electronic traffic from ANY source, has been routed since 1999 through an echelon server. while echelon tracks would breach us laws about eavesdropping on thier own citizens, echelon bypasses this by providing all data to the host countries, who then offer it to the us as part of intelligence trading agreements.

echelon was nothing but a rumour for many years, and it did take them a number of years to route cell calls and Internet into it.

who wants to play "guess which 5 countries"



posted on Dec, 9 2010 @ 09:29 PM
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Watch for Google analytics when loading pages.

The delay is usually related to this particular thing.... It is how targeted ads are delivered.

But it is capable of doing more... much more actually.

It can provide ad networks, and websites a wide range of services.

It can provide big brother even more.

The real cookie monster.




posted on Dec, 9 2010 @ 09:30 PM
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The american goverment has publicaly announced that any federal employee caught looking at any of the leeked documents will be fired on the spot. They have also urged universities to tell thier students that if they want a goverment job in the furtuere to also keep away from the leaked documents.

I can only guess the extent of the leaked documents so far but it really wouldnt be a great suprise to find out its all activly being tracked, especially with the threats mentioned above.

But take solace in numbers, there are hundreds of thousands of people looking at thease files, theres little chance it will come back at you.

I wouldnt worry about it too much anyway, they will be more inclined to come after people like me before you, im actively seeding the Wikileaks insurance file on uTorrent as we speak.



posted on Dec, 9 2010 @ 09:32 PM
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Get away from fear. Be bold, ignore. Move forward with purpose of freedom. That is all that we have that is sacred.



posted on Dec, 9 2010 @ 09:35 PM
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Originally posted by true-life
Get away from fear. Be bold, ignore. Move forward with purpose of freedom. That is all that we have that is sacred.


For at least the next few months.


Enjoy while it lasts!



posted on Dec, 9 2010 @ 09:41 PM
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Originally posted by true-life
Get away from fear. Be bold, ignore. Move forward with purpose of freedom. That is all that we have that is sacred.


A wonderful philosophy/dream I have to admit. Is it not getting a little tougher, day by day, to enjoy the fruits of your relaxed point of view? Turn on you favorite evening news, watch it . . . and get back to me if you will.
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posted on Dec, 9 2010 @ 09:44 PM
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Originally posted by squirelnutz
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Whatever, let em see all the porn i've watched

edit on 9-12-2010 by squirelnutz because: terrorists?



I am sure that might matter if you ever ran for office or something equally important to them; I would not worry about, like you said, "Whatever."
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posted on Dec, 9 2010 @ 10:12 PM
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If you are on political forums of any sort with any sort of numbers to them - including this one - you are almost certainly already noted in some file unless you have taken steps to obfuscate your IP and your MAC. Or you never use the same connections regularly.

I doubt anyone is watching you specifically all the time, but a few probably are.

You put yourself into the public forum, expect the public to notice.
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posted on Dec, 9 2010 @ 10:16 PM
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Originally posted by muzzleflash
Also, you cannot block this monitoring.

They actually install hardware at your phone company or internet service providers. Expensive hardware.

The only way to actually avoid this snooping, is to stop using all communications devices 100%. It's not practical.

The hardware they install is quite sophisticated and relays all the information to the supercomputer network for analysis.

You can't block it, unless you block your entire connection.


Expensive, complicated hardware, that most of the people installing and using it don't know how to use it and god forbid they have staff turn over. They can't keep track of it and how to use it, and even if it is tracking something useful, in 2 years no one can remember what it is tracking or how.

Layers upon layers of communication transport, and databases - and no one really knows how to not lose track of most of it.



posted on Dec, 9 2010 @ 10:25 PM
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its a good thing they cant record what I'm thinking

that's why they're paranoid



posted on Dec, 9 2010 @ 10:27 PM
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That is coming soon, sir. You're already on like every list, so you'll make a good canidate for the "abduction brain implants..." I mean brain monitoring program.



Originally posted by aliengenes
its a good thing they cant record what I'm thinking

that's why they're paranoid



posted on Dec, 9 2010 @ 10:29 PM
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The more layers of protection you have, the longer it takes to collect data. (usually only fractions of seconds)

You should see the massive data processing center Google has allocated just for Google analytics.


Take out the hardware and you could have NFL football games inside.

Face it, there is not, never has been and never will be any online anonymity.

Assume that everything you do online, everything you view, EVERYTHING is being monitored (not really, always) in real time.

If you are a federal employee and are viewing any online content related to wikileaks on your own PCs laptops and phones... Consider yourselves warned!




posted on Dec, 9 2010 @ 10:34 PM
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Originally posted by v1rtu0s0
That is coming soon, sir. You're already on like every list, so you'll make a good canidate for the "abduction brain implants..." I mean brain monitoring program.



Originally posted by aliengenes
its a good thing they cant record what I'm thinking

that's why they're paranoid


cool, I hope they wont be too mad when my Telekinesis fries their entire system, for i am the Kwisatz Haderach



posted on Dec, 9 2010 @ 10:38 PM
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I'm sure the very act of reading and posting on ATS itself is likely enough to get you some level being noticed by TPTB.

*waves at Echelon*

Hey - Echy - keeping busy lately?!



posted on Dec, 9 2010 @ 10:50 PM
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Originally posted by Fractured.Facade
The more layers of protection you have, the longer it takes to collect data. (usually only fractions of seconds)

You should see the massive data processing center Google has allocated just for Google analytics.


Take out the hardware and you could have NFL football games inside.

Face it, there is not, never has been and never will be any online anonymity.

Assume that everything you do online, everything you view, EVERYTHING is being monitored (not really, always) in real time.

If you are a federal employee and are viewing any online content related to wikileaks on your own PCs laptops and phones... Consider yourselves warned!





And that most of it is not used because no one can figure out what to do with it. And the pile of it gets bigger every day.



posted on Dec, 9 2010 @ 11:58 PM
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OP,
If you're a windows user...
It wouldn't surprise me.


But my connection stays the exact same when I go to wikileaks.
and no one is accessing my IP,
I assure you.

Maybe you ought to look into learning / installing a real OS? ie: Linux.
Preferably Ubuntu.

You wouldn't believe the issues it can resolve. lol

Or not,
and allow people to intrude into your home whenever they like.

Your choice.

But you are most likely,
more paranoid than anything. lol

I only know ONE person anymore who still uses window$, lol
So when I see them, I will hop onto their machine and see who is doing what when I go to WL's. , if anything.
But I never have an issue on Linux boxes.
and I do check things like this.

Paranoia is awareness...
but paranoia can also destroy ya... lol

I say,
"Who care's who knows what sites Im looking at?"
Certainly not me. lol

"ohh no, I am looking at wikileaks!"

You terrist!


Freedom, man..
Freedom.

If you arent doing anything wrong,
which by going to WL's, you are not..
then quit getting bent.

No matter what your gubbermint tells you..
You're not a terrorist, don't worry. lol

peace



posted on Dec, 10 2010 @ 12:40 AM
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Originally posted by Ahmose

Maybe you ought to look into learning / installing a real OS? ie: Linux.
Preferably Ubuntu.



As soon as I can run everything that I can run on a Windows OS I may consider that; as of the last time I checked out Ubuntu and the likes they were very lacking IMO.


Originally posted by Ahmose
But you are most likely,
more paranoid than anything. lol


Not really, some things are for emphasis. I was bringing this to the attention of the others here. As I said earlier, I do not go to the site "Wikileaks" . . . I do not believe in what they are doing and think that they have gone too far.


Originally posted by Ahmose
I say,
"Who care's who knows what sites Im looking at?"
Certainly not me. lol


Really? That is very good, although I bet a cool penny that you occasionally hear that little voice of reason warning you of your actions . . . I am sure though that your belligerence quickly shuts him up.


Originally posted by Ahmose
If you arent doing anything wrong,
which by going to WL's, you are not..
then quit getting bent.

No matter what your gubbermint tells you..
You're not a terrorist, don't worry. lol

peace


Man you say lol a lot . . . does this have something to do with a mirror? All joking aside . . . if you are going to Wikileaks to view these private and often classified conversations you are doing something wrong and I think deep down even you know that; it would be different if one of the people involved in the original conversation had leaked the information instead of a third-party stealing it. This is just like when a government invades the privacy of its citizens by illegal means . . . It is an invasion of privacy and if they released this kind of information (one of your private communications) for the world to see, inexcusable. As citizens of the world this is what we always rally to fight against yet when the table is turned the same people say it is now right.
edit on 10-12-2010 by nonnez because: to address the massive and ridiculous use of lol.

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