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Population overload and 2012: The point of no return

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posted on Dec, 10 2010 @ 02:01 PM
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Good point of view. Do you think its a spiritual connection that formulates that equation you brought up; or is it possible that it's related to the physical electrical field, for lack of a better word, produced by different thought processes. Is this field perceived by the "aliens"? Billy Meier made claims some thirty-odd years ago they could. He said bad "vibes" (electrical vibrations) were equivalent to a dis-pleasant sound or smell to them. It effected them directly. It would make allot of sense.

Here's something to consider...

If they can, does the collective consciousness of our population produce it's own field?
If it does, is it a dis-pleasant one in the eyes of extraterrestrial consciousnesses?
If so, what population number will invoke a response from them?
Possibly 6.66 million?

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posted on Dec, 10 2010 @ 03:59 PM
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The oceans are the biggest most unexplored part of our planet. There is plenty of space to house our growing population. This is the true new frontier and the future for our species long before space travel becomes a viable solution for travelling to other planets.



posted on Dec, 10 2010 @ 06:31 PM
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The population is not going to go that high. This overpopulation stuff is total BS. The elitist want people to think the world is overpopulation, so they can kill off the useless eaters as they see them. This is evil nazi eugenicist stuff of population control.



posted on Dec, 10 2010 @ 06:35 PM
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I guess you see the excess population as useless eaters and want them to be culled. People who promote that the world is overpopulated should take themselves out of the gene pool. This is just repackaged eugenics and the elite is going to use this as an excuse to cull the heard. If you really want the population to go down, have all the countries become industrialized, but the nazi UN does not want third world countries to developed. The elite want the population to be 500 million and kill the rest. The world is not overpopulated, you just brainwashed into this nazi propaganda and the great culling is coming.



posted on Dec, 10 2010 @ 06:42 PM
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What about start with culling yourself if you want to support this demonic eugenics. You are more likely white. People like you piss me off. I know how to bring down the numbers in a humane way, industrialized all the countries, all the countries that are industrialized have lower population and low birth rates. But you tree huggers like Ted Turner are human haters and want the great culling to happen. The globalist want to thin the heard. This overpopulation stuff is all lies to get people ready for the great culling, when the racist elite start killing a great number of people with soft kill methods. You should research the book called Ecoscience, it talks about how they want to use different ways to cull the population in the name of environment and going green. You are just another sheep that fell for this crap.



posted on Dec, 10 2010 @ 06:44 PM
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Ever wonder if we have all been led to believe that population decrease (as in genocide) is necessary?

It's because we have been.

The problem is how tightly packed we are with eachother, and that we use fossil fuels. And endless of other things that are detrimental to our planet - but because big business makes so much money, they refuse to "go green". This has gotten so bad that Earth is going to pop us like a zit unless with kill off some of the virus (mankind).

But I think it is bull#. We need to be changing the way we operate on our planet. Free energy exists already. People are not causing pollution. The crude energy we use per person is causing this.



posted on Dec, 10 2010 @ 06:50 PM
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You are sick to think humans as a virus. Maybe you should get ride of yourself, be less eugenicists around, that is what I called the control the population crowd. Do you know Ted Turner, who is promoting the same stuff you are see us as useless eaters that should die. I get pissed off when people promote this stuff and I ask them if they believe this stuff, what about starting with themselves to lower the population.
You are too brainwashed to see, this is the new eugenics for the elite to pull off the great culling. What are you going to do when you start seeing your love ones die from soft kill methods. They are already trying to kill seniors from what I saw from my love ones.



posted on Dec, 10 2010 @ 06:56 PM
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Slow down bud. We are under agreement here. Mankind becomes a stain on earth DUE to the way we operate. It is not symbiotic, we take and take and take. I am, had you read my reply, obviously not for de-population. We need to completely change the way energy is used. That is what I said.



posted on Dec, 10 2010 @ 06:57 PM
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I want to hear less "you are all programmed kill yourself" and more solutions from you.



posted on Dec, 10 2010 @ 07:02 PM
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hmmm, a noobie to the forum & I'm going to get flamed here.

I agree, over-population is arguably the greatest & unaddressed man-made problem we face to date: it's too much a hot topic, yet through it, or rather as a cause of it, we're witnessing unprecedented levels of eco-biological destruction. People are a commodity: to be taxed, to consume, to feed the machine. The machine needs you, and more like you to want & consume more. Emancipate yourself from the want [desire] of these things & free yourself.

Our 'blue dot' is a finite place. Infinite growth is an unrealistic proposition & simply unsustainable. How much more rainforest has to go, how many more fish caught before we realize we cannot eat money?



posted on Dec, 10 2010 @ 07:09 PM
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That is what I am saying. But the problem is not how many people there are. The problem is the fact that we are cutting down the forests instead of using alternative forms of energy or material. All fingers lead to the men at the top, and subsequently they are also the ones denying everything until you look out your window and say "therre are too many people" - when no, that is not it. it's energy.

with free energy we would no longer have to destroy the planet. it is not crowded, there is pleanty of space. and with new technology the carbon footprint will be a thing of the past. Provided we stop focussing on how many people there are or should be, and focus on these new forms of energy.



posted on Dec, 10 2010 @ 07:40 PM
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Two differing comments:

1. We just might be ready for harvest by ET. Wonder why the world has become so fat all of a sudden. You don't hear much about the fat "virus" that is out there. Once the news was out, it was squelched. Can't say I haven't thought about it. Notice all the PTB's are skinny, maybe they have an antidote to keep them and their families from being harvested.


2. Those who believe that abortion, late term abortion, and immediate post birth abortion will fix the problem and believe our world is overpopulated, should out of conviction abort themselves and all their progeny regardless of the age of their progeny. People who believe overpopulation should be solved by killing (no matter the euphamism they use) then they should set an example and start with themselves and their children, and grandchildren and it should be legal for them to do so.

As for the rest of us, if you look at it closely, the industrialized countries are in a negative population growth. If not for immigration the US population would be in decline, like most European countries. China is too harsh with a one child policy, but a two child policy with mandatory giving up additional children for adoption is quite feasible and workable. China's doesn't work because they now have a female deficit that is going to gradually destroy their society. With a two child policy, many families would choose one of each sex.

A quick way to solve it is requiring a license to parent, with intensive preparation and proof of employment sufficient to raise a child, to get the license. All children born to unlicensed parents would be immediately taken and given up for adoption to licensed parents who are unable or choose not to concieve. This would solve not only the population problem, as there would be no financial gain in having children, but children would be far less likely to be criminals or be undereducated as adults.

Of course, with male fertility now on such a steep decline, the PTB's may have already been working on that one.



posted on Dec, 10 2010 @ 07:46 PM
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60% of all the Vietnam Veterans are dead.

The world's population may be exploding but America's population has been collapsing.

Why do you think Barrack gave citizenship to +1 million last year?
Why do we have 1/3rd of Mexico's work force in America and counting as our population?

The prior Generation poisoned America before Hazardous Material law went into effect. Dioxins, Toxins, and all the radiological accidents/military experiments poisoned us as well.

The global population may be exploding but America has been dying.



posted on Dec, 10 2010 @ 08:16 PM
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Abortion isn't an effective population reduction method, and that is not why it is legal. This is all about the rights of the individual to own her own body

TPTB may or may not have a plan to depopulate the world by mass deaths....that would raise a really big stink, don't you think? pun intended.

There is however a long range plan to massivly reduce the population numbers. That is what genetically modified food is all about. Do the research. It has been shown that animals eating GM food become mstly sterile by the 3rd generation. voila ...no more babies.

When the numbers become desireable, the Terminator seeds will be released and all the GM crops will die. And THEN, TPTB will bring out those reserves of regular produce seeds that they have stored away at various locations around the world. Humans will now be screened for rights to have children. All the others will be sterilized. The Elites will use selective breeding and genetic enhancements on their own.



posted on Dec, 10 2010 @ 08:34 PM
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Your know it all, prejudiced, #ty attitude is exactly the virus part of our society I'm referring to. You speak the words of an individual who's eyes and mind are closed. I ask questions. I stimulate thought. Your a conformist who believes we don't have a problem. I've chosen to ask people their opinion, while you choose to impose your own point of view. Who the hell do you think you are to state the ridiculous claims you make. Do a little research and you'll see how absurd you sound. Again, those stats are straight out of Wiki. If you wanna bitch, bitch at them. I don't refer or suggest genocide you illiterate son of a bitch. Those in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. You obviously have your own problems dealing with others opinions in a coherent rational manner. Your not even remotely close to consistent with your rants. I'm not even sure where to start debating you. Maybe you should bring up a herd of children to follow in your misguided footsteps. (That's what the world needs; right?) That's exactly the problem.
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posted on Dec, 10 2010 @ 08:51 PM
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A virus is an infectious agent that can replicate inside or upon an organism.
(like the Earth)

Incontestably, there’s no way we’re a divine species. We destroy most things we come in contact with. Why would a Supreme Being care about the outcome of humankind, unless there was a vested interest? As far as I can rationalize, there are limited reasons why any thing creates anything. If indeed we have been created, or designed to follow in Gods image; then by most rational conclusions of contemplation, our motivations would be somewhat similar. MOOOO
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posted on Dec, 10 2010 @ 09:07 PM
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Chopper boy slow your roll, you have no idea what the f@!# your are talking about. You sound like every friend I had from high school that still lives in the town they grew up in, small minded and ignorant. There are 8 billion people on this planet, yes I said 8 billion not 6 billion as everyone thinks (due to wikipedia bullsh!t) with that many people all requiring a home, car, clothes, food, etc... there is going to be a breaking point. Now if you had the power to control that breaking point so you and your family could live on prosperously wouldn't you take action? Well that is exactly what the powers that be ARE planning, to thin the heard so everyone else can live on. It is not a theory but fact, 8 billion people (and growing) can not live on this planet no matter how green we are, we effect everything around us and have no idea at what cost. So whether the Governments of the world kill you or the earth just decides enough is enough there needs to be a culling!! "the population shall not exceed 500,000,000" Do some research and come back with a lucid, fact filled argument next time or don't come at all.



posted on Dec, 13 2010 @ 11:15 PM
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It's a global problem. I you think the population in the US is dropping you need to check your facts. The facts are scewd by representing a percentage instead of a hard number. (It's exploding) Look at the footprint of any city. Look at the pollution. You think it's declining?



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