A Letter from Anonymous

These people are derelicts, not some kind of freedom fighter.

I wouldn't hesitate to pull the trigger on one of these idiots.

reply to post by Prince Of Darkness


For a loose, largely undefined group of Internet pranksters; it never ceases to amaze me that they manage to maintain among their hive a core group of people, who (although they may not be "leaders" in a formal/structural sense) are able to bring a purpose to their efforts and articulate that purpose clearly and intelligently.

If I weren't working for the NWO, I'd be tempted to join-in myself.

Remember, "We have always been at war with Eastasia!"

reply to post by Darkrunner


Brilliant! And sitting in a jail cell for murder is productive?

Originally posted by Cablespider
reply to post by Darkrunner

 

Brilliant! And sitting in a jail cell for murder is productive?

^ what he said. of course, i'm not for the death penalty, nor for vigilante justice in which a death penalty or disenfranchisement is inflicted. i believe anon has a right to say what it wants, and scientology has a right to say what it wants, and so do i and everyone else, but there is a line of demarcation here, and some are deliberately overlooking it. if you're not for hurting others, remember the price of freedom does not NEED to be at the cost of lives. that's an old adage at the heart of every would be dictator and human rights disaster in history: sacrifices are required, they'd say (and then target only certain portions of their society to sacrifice, even if those portions of their societies had done nothing to elicit such treatment, other than being part of the system, itself. and THAT's what all this reminds me of~!)

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files.hl2forums.com...

reply to post by lpowell0627

all the freedom fighters are doing is flooding the web site so it can`t keep up. this makes the site slow and unable to refresh and load ...no harm no foul... just a rough vision on how it works look up mIRC in wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org... thats what there using.
www.google.com... CTYHgD87YnAfIg8DlDQ&usg=AFQjCNEornxe2obFAMkZi3R9HHmIhd7AMQ&cad=rja
www.google.com... j&q=anonops&ei=4XgCTaqNLeHonQevjJHlDQ&usg=AFQjCNEHAKi0mopwtxx-mC8rBTMxbzF_Gw&cad=rja
www.google.com... qNLeHonQevjJHlDQ&usg=AFQjCNGuO4QkG4LbKf0rQOOrlhbW6VxBpA&cad=rja
I am Not a Anon or Anonymous member, but i support them. and are considering becoming one.
Why doe`s everyone think anon is bad... first of all mIRC ( www.mirc.com... ) is not bad. 2nd.... there is a lot of people that use it . 3rd... AnonOps.net is good for the economy. (yaha) point is Anonymous is a group ( and that is there name) of freedom fighters. what they do dosen`t hurt anyone except the prides of all those they disrupt.What harm is it when they flood a website with 4000 pc`s trying to log in...nothing! the site is full and dosen`t load...no one got into the site and stole anything..nata. unlike the goverment who dosen`t care who they disrupt or steal from. next month the internet will be blocked and you wont be able to log on to ats if the goverment had its say..we want the goverment to leave us the hell alone. they wont so we will hit them right back. wiki leaks is our friend. they have the truth the goverment don`t want us to know. thats why Anonymous is trying to help. I will tell you now that i support anon..Anonymous...wikileaks and ats. we all have the same goal. THE TRUTH> when you attack 'anon' you might as well say your for goverment secrets and lies. they are on the same page as us.. who want the truth. they just do it in a little different way...we get on here and wish we could do something about finding the truth and they get out there and get people to see the truth at the cost of the people that lie to us. this in my opinion is good. no gun no blood no foul! open minded people get results and they did shut down visa ..mastercard..ect... come on people the age of the internet war is here. there is always wars. did you think this www could survive, ww1 ww2 and now wwW at least the truth may be revealed at what cost........ and there are alot of anon supporters on ats some hide some come out ..awcgs has came out.. I believe in you and freedom..what to you believe in? 150 million people use mIRC we are all part of Anonymous, just dependes on how u use your pc.



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reply to post by Darkrunner


You sir, need to be caged. You're talking about shooting somebody (mostly teenagers), for interrupting access to an internet site. You are a true threat to civilized society.

Originally posted by undo
don't tell me what i will and will not do! comprende' amigo!

the nerve of some people.

Yeah! That's the government's job....

it also frustrates the hell out of me that men who follow these organizations think they have to enlighten me, as if my gender somehow dropped my intelligence level, ability to comprehend or rationalize, by several IQ points. pardon me, but i do have at least enough intelligence to recognize the same processes, over and over again. same M.O. same same same, freakin' same.

Originally posted by 27jd

Originally posted by undo
don't tell me what i will and will not do! comprende' amigo!

the nerve of some people.

Yeah! That's the government's job....

yeah well, i'm still in possession of my own thoughts. he's projecting the train ride in the soviet union that ended with millions of people being carted off to siberia, etc, where they died from starvation, over exposure, lack of medical care and etc. if someone tells me to get on a train, i'll tell them to shoot me now cause i ain't going to go out into the wilderness to die a slow painful death. been there, done that (et.al, slow painful death), ain't going back. they can kiss my not so shiny white hiney

I don't hear any bullets, bombs, or screaming. I do not see any blood spilling. Sure, many innocent people are being inconvenieced, but they will wake up tomorrow morning, still breathing and able to carry on with their lives. The institutions that are being challenged can not say the same thing in how they deal with their adversaries.

Regardless of what we may think of wikileaks, and JA, we must remember they are not criminals for publishing information that has been made availible to them. That is what journalism is all about. Those releasing the info may be criminal, but that is for their respective governments to decide. Information is power, and to quote a tunesmith who's death we recently remembered from 30 years ago....power to the people!

reply to post by Theorytripper


you realize, "the people" are a mob. and the mob will lynch ya just for having the wrong skin color, wrong religion, wrong political party, wrong view point, wrong ___________ (fill in the blank)!

just because some guys with training in psychological manipulation, can brainwash an entire mob of people to believe something to the extent they are willing to kill others for it, doesn't mean it's right or necessary!

My opinion is simple ,Mr Assange is a dragnet for federal and interpol to aquire and attain information on subversive populace views and distract world attention away from real events.Once a web domain is set up people automatically flock to that site to devulge their innermost thoughts on government actions and policy.this then is used as a means of public populace control on future agendas in the world stage,Anonymous is just that as all on the net are anonymous so to say,it speaks for freedom is nonsense when it is a populace aquiring medium database.This is not delusional but militarily essential when control groups loose sense of monopoly on the world populace.Enough said.If thats the best freedom fighter I`d rather support a simpson !

reply to post by gringoboy


it's funny but joe-over-yonder, will be more than happy to vote away your freedom of speech if he doesn't agree with what's coming out of your mouth. it's all fine and dandy, till the tide turns and now it's his view point that's the target. kinda like stalin. he used his fellow communists to help usher in his rise to power, and then summarily had them all shot.

Originally posted by Prince Of Darkness

I find something rather disturbing about this "Anon" video. In this initial image "united as one" seems to reflect the idea of One World which is the goal of the NWO. Also the Red Tie has a subliminal message. But what I find most potent in this initial image is the signature of the Rosicrucian Rose at the bottom. This would seem to imply, imo, that the secret societies are behind this scenerio, and that the actions taking place have been carefully orchestrated and is not happenstance.

Compare the images:



Why do they all wear red ties? The overuse of red ties has been noted before. What symbolism or signals could be associated with this? What about the "red hat society"? Does the color red denote an association or affiliation with the Scarlet Harlot?

Originally posted by Prince Of Darkness

Here is another strange symbol? Why the Magritte-type image? This same type of faceless or headless standing suit is recurrent in these video themes. What is being said without words? This Magritte painting is titled "Son of Man".







What is the real message in the visuals of these video presentations? I think whatever it is, it conflicts with the words being used.






who is this? And why the image association?

Their actions are only going to result in more restrictions for the rest of us. There is a way to fight the system and there is a way you shouldn't fight the system. This happens to be a way that will only result in us losing ground.

alethea,

that second video basically outlines the mindset that making money off your own intellectual property, which would require you actuallly have the rights to distribute it exclusively until such time as you deemed fit to give it away, is a bad thing. in effect, it sounds as if anon is being infiltrated by socialists, who insist you give your stuff to them, to redistribute how ever they see fit. lots of people give away free things. but if it's their livelihood, it's a different matter altogether. the real clincher is, the people that inspire the little guys like anon to do this kind of thing, or to believe in that kind of philosophy, are themselves extremely rich people. it's odd that folks don't realize that. it's part of the slow slide into socialism in which the system enslaves the entire populace, so that even your own intellectual property is no longer yours.

reply to post by undo


Socialists? ! ?

Internet law is written to protect distributors and digital 'translators' - NOT artists or the producers of artistic works. Which is why someone else can own the rights to your DNA and other genetic codes.

Originally posted by Cablespider
reply to post by Darkrunner

 

Brilliant! And sitting in a jail cell for murder is productive?

I am speaking metaphorically of course.

But were I to run into one of them, they would be biting the curb.

I am sitting in a hotel room in Louisiana on business, with my family in Michigan, and I see # about them trying (or wanting to) to shut down Amazon as I am trying to think of things to have shipped home for Christmas. Of course, I can go to other sites, but what's the point of going after (or suggesting it) Amazon?

These people are cowards, and deserve the respect of no one.

Originally posted by Prince Of Darkness
Whether you agree with the methods being used by Anonymous or not, Anonymous is still fighting for the freedom of internet and freedom of speech in real life and internet for everyone.

Methods are at the heart of this issue. While the Tea-Party protested in capital cities, they did not resort to any form of anarchy. Anonymous resorted to cyber-anarchy, so they can retaliate against Assange's arrest. If they only stopped for a brief moment, they would have noticed that Assange turned himself into the police. The Tea-Party held up signs in an act of peaceful protesting. Anonymous interrupts the everyday functionality of a privately owned company, and by acting in such a manner they also interfered with the lives of innocent people. Big difference in methods.

Tea-Party = Peaceful protesting. Voting was their method for change.

Anonymous = Cyber-Anarchy. Interrupting a privately owned company's day-to-day activity in order to force change.

Assange = Cyber-protesting, Threats is his way to force change in a country in which he does not reside.

If Anonymous represented the freedom of speech and internet for everyone, why did they interfere with the freedom in which a privately owned company does business? All those sites that disconnected Assange were only 'practicing their rights', and they did so by expressed their loyalty to the nation in which they reside. Assange is a foreign citizen who is threatening and leaking classified information, which belongs to the country in which those companies reside.

*shrugs*

Anonymous is a group of cyber-anarchists. Don't fool yourselves.

*shrugs*

Also, the internet is not free. Private companies and private citizens 'own' online real estate. We pay for a monthly subscription to a domain company, so that we can have our personal and private location online. All those companies that cut Assange off are privately owned, and they pay big money to secure their personal and private space. When people own a piece of online real estate, their rights are protected in a similar manner in which a house is protected. Online companies and site owners have a right to cut anyone off. Anonymous stomped on those people's rights.