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A Letter from Anonymous

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posted on Dec, 10 2010 @ 06:54 AM
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The Internet is the last bastion of freedom in this evolving technical world. The Internet is capable of connecting us all. When we are connected we are strong. When we are strong we have power. When we have power we are able to do the impossible. This is why the government is moving on Wikileaks. This is what they fear. They fear our power when we unite. Do not forget this.


Heed the words of this man and see the truth in them.




posted on Dec, 10 2010 @ 06:55 AM
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looks like this person has been reading threads on here, i saw one member mentioned
plus i said exactly the same thing in one of the threads about anonymous. wondering if this person just rewrote that..

there cannot be an open letter from anonymous. stupid idea. goes against everything that was said in the "letter".
this person does not represent them



posted on Dec, 10 2010 @ 07:05 AM
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Anonymous has no spokesperson because Anonymous is not an organized group. This letter is more than likely the work of a single college aged kid who speaks for himself & not the hodge-podge of geeks, slackers, & malcontents who peruse the chans. Nobody can be the mouthpiece of an entity that doesn't exist. It's someone's personal feelings of why they participate in DDOS attacks that has a logo attached to it. If I wrote some type of proclamation & put the Department of Homeland Security logo on it, that doesn't mean it speaks for the DHS now does it.



posted on Dec, 10 2010 @ 07:15 AM
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Originally posted by Thunder heart woman
Of course they will call Anon terrorists, that's the only way to pit the public against them. Then big sis steps in and says she has to protect all of us from the net terrorists.


This is where having an open and free internet is needed. If the government is wrongly accusing someone or some group of terroristic actions then we as freedom loving citizens must leverage the freedom of information on the internet to get the truth out to the public & fight the misinformation.



posted on Dec, 10 2010 @ 07:16 AM
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Originally posted by ethancoop
Anonymous has no spokesperson because Anonymous is not an organized group. This letter is more than likely the work of a single college aged kid who speaks for himself & not the hodge-podge of geeks, slackers, & malcontents who peruse the chans. Nobody can be the mouthpiece of an entity that doesn't exist. It's someone's personal feelings of why they participate in DDOS attacks that has a logo attached to it. If I wrote some type of proclamation & put the Department of Homeland Security logo on it, that doesn't mean it speaks for the DHS now does it.


Anonymous is not a organised group but it has a organised goal every now and then. The great thing about Anonymous is anyone can be part of it, from a college kid to a old professor to a middle aged family guy. If it's a college kid then bravo to him for speaking something which most of the middle aged family retards are afraid to face b'coz it shakes the very foundation of their mindless sheeple like existence.



posted on Dec, 10 2010 @ 07:20 AM
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Originally posted by zcflint05
I honestly have no beef with Anon and their intentions. I think that they are mistaken on the count that Julian Assange has good intentions however


I don't think it's Assange himself they're backing but rather the ideals of a free and open internet that by it's very existence helps dissuade the mechanisms that feed tyranny.



posted on Dec, 10 2010 @ 07:43 AM
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We are not vigilantes, regardless of the sentiment of quoting Bxxxxxxx Sxxxxx


Crack me up.

I have to wonder if the same people opposed to Anon's 'collateral damage' are also opposed to the collateral damage done by those godforsaken wars.
edit on 10-12-2010 by Cablespider because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 10 2010 @ 07:55 AM
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reply to post by EFGuy
 


See this is what Anon should be up to. They are masters of original content and incredible wit, but generally the jokes are compartmentalized within places like /b/ so no outsiders will see the entertainment value.
If they use this skill to perpetuate some entertaining and educational material that average people can understand and appreciate THEY WILL HAVE IT.
and you know they want it.



posted on Dec, 10 2010 @ 08:01 AM
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Thanks all, for your view points. I hope I did not come across as wanting anon controlled, because I don't. I'm mostly concerned as to all of us ultimately being controlled. I admire the fact that they are standing up and actually doing something, despite the trouble it is causing others.



posted on Dec, 10 2010 @ 08:02 AM
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Hmm.. Maybe am getting too cynical in my old age.. Something odd in the phrasing on that letter.. Has a stench of government to it rather than of anonymous..



posted on Dec, 10 2010 @ 08:14 AM
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reply to post by Prince Of Darkness
 


Thanks Prince of Darkness.


...a couple of days ago I posted a vid I made, referring to WikiLeaks.

Since then, I've been getting that weird click and echo on my phone (again). Why? Why are TPTB paranoid about honest, sincere, creative little projects? Why spend our tax dollars investigating little people who just speak up?

Don't they realize that the world is full of little people? Over-run even? That they can't track everyone? ...Oh yeah. They do. So they nail the ones who have an effect.


There is safety in numbers.



Make that your mantra. Speak up. Have an effect.



posted on Dec, 10 2010 @ 08:21 AM
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ANON OPS: A Press Release



December 10, 2010
Who is Anonymous
In their most recent public statement, WikiLeaks is the only group of people to identify Anonymous
correctly. Anonymous is not a group, but rather an Internet gathering.
Both Anonymous and the media that is covering it are aware of the percieved dissent between
individuals in the gathering. This does not, however, mean that the command structure of
Anonymous is failing for a simple reason: Anonymous has a very loose and decentralized command
structure that operates on ideas rather than directives.
We do not believe that a similar movement exists in the world today and as such we have to learn
by trial and error. We are now in the process of better communicating some core values to the
individual atoms that comprise Anonymous - we also want to take this opportunity to communicate
a message to the media, so that the average Internet Citizen can get to know who we are and what
we represent.
Anonymous is not a group of hackers. We are average Interent Citizens ourselves and our
motivation is a collective sense of being fed up with all the minor and major injustices we witness
every day.
We do not want to steal your personal information or credit card numbers. We also do not seek to
attack critical infrastructure of companies such as Mastercard, Visa, PayPal or Amazon. Our current
goal is to raise awareness about WikiLeaks and the underhanded methods employed by the above
companies to impair WikiLeaks' ability to function.
What is Operation: Payback
As stated above, the point of Operation: Payback was never to target critical infrastructure of any of
the companies or organizations affected. Rather than doing that, we focused on their corporate
websites, which is to say, their online "public face". It is a symbolic action - as blogger and
academic Evgeny Morozov put it, a legitimate expression of dissent.
The background to the attacks on PayPal and the calls to attack Amazon.com
Amazon, which was until recently WikiLeaks' DNS provider, was one of the first companies to drop
support for WikiLeaks. On December 9th, BusinessInsider.com reported that Amazon.co.uk were
hosting the recently leaked diplomatic cables in e-book form. (Amazon.co.uk has since ceased
selling the bundle of the diplomatic cables.)
After this piece of news circulated, parts of Anonymous on Twitter asked for Amazon.com to betargetted. The attack never occured.
While it is indeed possible that Anonymous may not have been able to take Amazon.com down in a
DDoS attack, this is not the only reason the attack never occured. After the attack was so advertised
in the media, we felt that it would affect people such as consumers in a negative way and make
them feel threatened by Anonymous. Simply put, attacking a major online retailer when people are
buying presents for their loved ones, would be in bad taste.
The continuing attacks on PayPal are already tested and preferable: while not damaging their ability
to process payments, they are successful in slowing their network down just enough for people to
notice and thus, we achieve our goal of raising awareness.

dump.no...



posted on Dec, 10 2010 @ 08:22 AM
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Originally posted by Expat888
Has a stench of government


Go ahead try to explain this...



posted on Dec, 10 2010 @ 08:34 AM
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To all those people who think the government is stepping on your free speech:

Suppose you have your private documents out while you are paying your bills.
A worker shows up to repair your dishwasher.
He sees your social security number and writes it down on a scrap of paper.
He then gives it to a third party who starts posting it on website after website.

Can this third party use the ‘free speech’ line to justify his activity?

It’s funny how opinion changes when it’s your private info.



posted on Dec, 10 2010 @ 08:45 AM
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reply to post by samkent
 


You're going to have to do better than that.

edit on 10-12-2010 by Cablespider because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 10 2010 @ 09:14 AM
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reply to post by samkent
 


Where i am at on the interwebs is my private info.
What i am saying on my phone is private info.
What i type in an email is private info.
What i receive in the mail is private info.
What i have in my pants at the airport is private info.
How many people live in my house is private info.
How much money i make is private info.

And yet, the government is aloud to see that?



posted on Dec, 10 2010 @ 09:24 AM
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Interesting post and letter.

Seemingly good intentions. Sort of...

I personally am not a part of any 'collective' however. I was born an individual and shall die as such. Herd thinking, despite philosophical and flowery speeches, is still herd thinking...it's what created 'sheeple' to begin with.

Sorry anon, my freedom of speech is saying I want no part of herd-thought guided by the ever fickle public opinions of the entirely tech -dependent internet. I would rather work locally offline to try to enact change than depend of masses of faceless and unknown humanity that is claiming to be 'everyone' and whispering 'trust me, trust me' in my ear.

No. Thats exactly what got us to the point that 'anon' supposedly fights against.

Ironic.




edit on 12/10/2010 by Clark Savage Jr. because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 10 2010 @ 09:43 AM
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reply to post by EFGuy
 


With respect :

IMO, the truth is any Roman leader or founding father or Crusader expressed that same exact sentiment. Most major religions express similar concepts of 'unity by appealing to the masses'.

The dustbin(or 'recycle bin' if one prefers)of human history is full of good intentions that morphed into just another group of folks that wish you to join with 'us all' on some crusade for a freedom of their design. Basically, it's an appeal to the masses to help them realize THEIR agenda. "Fighting for freedom of speech' is just fine, until you understand no such thing exists because one mans 'freedom' is always going to be another mans 'oppression'.

The internet is really just a glorified CB radio. Technology and herd- think cant fix human weaknesses and failures.

Only humans can do that. Only real OFFLINE people that stand shoulder to shoulder. People you know and trust and can see and touch...not some faceless group that claim you are a part of their group whether you wish to be or not.

Such unknown people will never speak for me or you ultimately because we are not bees in some cyber or political hive.

Not the Governments, not Anon, not wikileaks. They are all one and the exact same. They are what they fight against and will ultimately fail.



posted on Dec, 10 2010 @ 09:55 AM
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That's a bigger oxymoron than military intelligence. Effecting peaceful change doesn't exist. Anon is using non-violent methods of effecting change. That you interpret that as being non-peaceful is just how you interpret it, it doesn't change the fact that the methods are non-violent.

Do I agree with what anon is doing? Yes and no.....

Something has to be done, and changing the bottom line on companies that go along with unlawful censure is probably one of the only things that CAN effect a change.

This is only the beginning and it's going to get a lot worse in the coming years and likely eventually lead to a civil war. I'm hoping against that. I'm hoping that those who are elected wake up and start effecting positive change, but I don't find that likely unfortunately. The voters waking up wouldn't really do anything without the politicians waking up as well and seeing what is best for this country and the world for that matter.

True Freedom is the best thing for the world and personal responsibility, if you take those things away, you start down a path of self annihilation. This country has been a socialist republic since the new deal, if we don't restore it to a democratic republic and eliminate or greatly reduce the corruption, there are only two possible consequences; civil war, and fascist regime.

So yes there will be casualities. It's necessary to wake some people up. If you blame the wrong people, then that is on you and you will be "responsible" for what comes next as a result of blaming the wrong people.

The people at fault here is everyone that has allowed our government to become corrupted and changed outside of the boundaries laid down in our founding documents.

Is the constitution a living document? Yes, but only in so far as 2/3rds of congress and 3/4ths of the states deem it so and amend it.

The idea that the constitution as it is written is interpretable to the times is an absurdity.

The government has put pressure on these companies to restrict access to wikileaks, and they have done so. There are consequences for their choices and there will be casualties of other parties.

If you are one of those parties, put the blame where it belongs, the companies and the members of government who are putting the pressure on those companies to capitulate to their ridiculous demands.

The only terrorists here are the members of goverment who refuse to keep their sworn oaths to defend the constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic, especially since it would be easy for them to defend it against domestic enemies of the constitution, because they need only look in the mirror.

Jaden



posted on Dec, 10 2010 @ 10:24 AM
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I have not read all the post's so someone my have made this point already but when Wikileaks said the only way to stop them was to shut down the internet that made me think.

Point being when you have an elite family like the Rothchilds that own half the worlds debt and 200 trillion in assets do you really think that anything happens in this world without a "controlled' reason behind it??

Just a thought.







 
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